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I did not allow a lady to pass

Posted 03-01-09 at 12:27 PM by just4kix
The incident happened many years ago when I was abroad.

I was on one side of the door and opened it. There were a lady and a male colleague on the other side. As I opened the door and walked past, I got some snide peculiar looks from the two. I realized that I had done something wrong - I should have allowed the other two to pass or said at least, "Excuse me, please".

I have since then tried to imbibe these manners unto myself but it is not something that comes naturally to me. If I may speak for us Indians, I can safely state that Indians do not have these courtesy or manners:
  • Saying "Thank you". As you walk-in in a plush restaurant, the doorman opens the door for you. How often do we say, "Thank you"? We think that it is his job and thanking him is too low - it does not become us.
  • Allowing a lady to pass first
  • Opening the door for a lady
  • Standing on the side of the lift/elevator and allow people in, to get out first.
  • If you see that there are people ahead of you to get something done, say photo copying, wait till the persons ahead of you to finish.
  • If two people are talking between themselves, and you wish to talk to one or both of them, start with "Excuse me".
  • And something plain crude and simple - at the cafeteria, after you finish your meal, gently push back the chair to the table?
The problem is that these so called "manners and curtsey" are completely phoren to us. It is simply not part of our culture.

I was once having a discussion on Indian and Western culture and my English friend pointed out many other issues that they find rude:
  • Talking to "Indian" when in a group
  • Congregating together at the coffee machine.
  • Staying within the coterie. My English friend went ahead and called this as a "syndicate".
I was at a loss to justify anything. I did try to (weakly) explain that going to the coffee together is nothing ulterior - just that two or three people liked to take a break and talk about other things especially from home. I did agree, however, that it was a bad practice to loiter around the machine - we should be stepping back and going to the common area/cafeteria to chat.

I also counter argued on Indian philosophy and culture. I told my English friend that we did need to improve on better mannerisms but we also have certain traits that the Western world needs to learn from. For example:
  • We do not continue to live with our parents when we grow up - we stay with them to take care of our parents during their old age.
  • We respect elders by touching their feet every time we meet.
  • We take great interest in the development of our children in their academics - that is why Indian students fare better
  • etc.
That said, there was some redemption but overall the score was 5-1 against me.
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Old
very good and well written article.

Though not totally relevant to this article, but you reminded me of a recent comment/quote by the famous Foreign Affairs Columnist of New York Times - Thomas.L.Friedman. He said:

"When we were young kids growing up in America, we were Told to eat our vegetables at dinner and not leave them. Mothers said, think of the starving children in India And finish the dinner.'

And now I tell my children:
'Finish your homework. Think of the children in India
Who would make you starve, if you don't.'?"
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Posted 03-01-09 at 12:45 PM by
Old
No man or culture in this world is completely perfect. It is always good to hope, and to forgive, than to always complain.
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Posted 03-02-09 at 05:23 PM by
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a lltile of my side,

kixii gr8 article, i liked it even though i dont believe in it.

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manners inculing a lady, i ll tell u what they like, they only like to be treated as queens and xxxxxx, thats ok wid me, i do treat them like that , i never even call then " tu " , but what happens when u dont agree with them, they accuse u of sexual harrasment , and that to by whom ? my own dear sis, my only ever sis ( not related)

so u want me to have manners ? sure no prob , but only if they can prove that they are worth it !!
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Posted 04-08-09 at 10:07 PM by sb21pro sb21pro is offline
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Opening the door for a lady, etc etc sounds like classical British gentleman's manners

i don't think anyone in other countries expect a guy to do it for em, maybe??

how difficult is it to open doors lol!!!!
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Posted 04-17-09 at 06:25 PM by Raghav_K Raghav_K is offline
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I have always noticed that in other countries Most Indians live in close communities , making a lot of effort to network with other Indians ...... but not quiet making the same effort to network with the natives .....
This possibly may be the case with all Asians .... Though i am not sure . But it definitely intrigues me .
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Posted 04-21-09 at 06:10 PM by
Old
just now seen this blog...yeah we Indians lol..



i took some of my friends for a very nice hotel in Uttarakhand. a place when film stars visit. these guys of mine are rich and from nice families, but when it came about etiquttes and manners, i was so dumped and sad to see them doing such things..

like for ex. they didnt asked the watchman of the hotel recreation centre that they wanna play some games, but they just pulled some rackets and went to play badminton..

and another one, where they were amusingly finding out money for tipping the hotel staff, before them..awwww,,,...


they were staying on a concessional rate( cause of my links with the hotel-proprietor)

but their behaviour was worst than small kids will do...

i am too ashamed of Indians...i feel we dont know the international manners at all.. how to sit in 4 people, how to talk and what, how to eat food, how to say words to ladies and gentlemen out there...

i have seen the class of rich people of India...purely bogus...they can buy themselves expensive things but they cant buy manners,,,....
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Posted 06-01-09 at 03:03 PM by mickey mickey is offline
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What ? You should have increase the count to 2-1 atleast.
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Posted 07-18-09 at 04:10 PM by Luke Skywalker Luke Skywalker is offline
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True!! And one thing i hate when it comes to india is everytime there is a discussion or conflict regarding Achievements among countries, there is always an Indian who would say "India is known 4 its heritage and culture'' Though he actually does'nt know what exactly he is talking about.. And courtesy is something that is NOT appreciated here!! Where exactly is "heritage and culture" leading us to? Now even we are inclining towards western trend! We ourself are not that appreciative of our culture... We have got a lot of draw backs.. An astable bureaucratic government.. Strong Internal conflicts among state.. Why are we still not in par with the developed coutries!!!?
No doubt our country has produced great scholars and thinkers.. We truely have the potential but lack of direction...
I am a true patriot.. To be frank, i LOVE my country but not v.proud of it....
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Posted 08-09-09 at 08:31 PM by NrN Kill NrN Kill is offline
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Visiting India I did notice lots of differences. Particularly as to "manners". Asian (Chinese, Indian and others) manners in general differ quite a bit from the Western world. I wouldn't say that opening doors for a lady is correct. It's correct being in the Western world. Every country has its own culture and manners, but just to show some respect, one should adopt a bit to the country he goes to.

One thing I found disturbing was for example buying tickets in several places. Often I wasn't even given the chance to pay as there were always people pushing me and trying to pay at the same time as I did. After a few days I just did the same and everthing was fine hehehe

You really touch the feet of elders?
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Posted 08-28-09 at 07:46 PM by M_J_82 M_J_82 is offline
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^I have heard that this custom of touching feet of elderly in particular the toe's, transmits a part of their energy to the person who touched the feet...
And this is how the latter is blessed....
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Posted 09-11-09 at 12:00 AM by NrN Kill NrN Kill is offline
 

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