Formalities for starting Wi-fi Services

I am using commercial connection of BSNL for my cyber cafe can I also provide wi-fi facility at my cafe.
I wanted to know if I can provide wi-fi internet services in my area, using my connection and if I need to take permission from BSNL or DOT for that or I need to install the equipments only and start providing services.

Originally Posted by aakashbhatnagar

I am using commercial connection of BSNL for my cyber cafe can I also provide wi-fi facility at my cafe.
I wanted to know if I can provide wi-fi internet services in my area, using my connection and if I need to take permission from BSNL or DOT for that or I need to install the equipments only and start providing services.

You can provide wi-fi connection in limited range like 100 / 200 Mts. max but as you are asking to provide services is wi-fi zone, it can be done but its a bit expensive, estimated Rs. 1,50,000 for very limited range of 250-300 mts. you may ask any hardware consultant for the projection.

Originally Posted by aakashbhatnagar

I am using commercial connection of BSNL for my cyber cafe can I also provide wi-fi facility at my cafe.
I wanted to know if I can provide wi-fi internet services in my area, using my connection and if I need to take permission from BSNL or DOT for that or I need to install the equipments only and start providing services.

My friend what you are planning is illegal you cant redistribute the connection to your customers in your area. if you want to do that then you have to apply for C class ISP license and also you need to take a ISP bandwidth because the bandwidth offered by BSNL is only for end users it may be person use of commercial use. but ISP is totally different.

Originally Posted by aakashbhatnagar

I am using commercial connection of BSNL for my cyber cafe can I also provide wi-fi facility at my cafe.
I wanted to know if I can provide wi-fi internet services in my area, using my connection and if I need to take permission from BSNL or DOT for that or I need to install the equipments only and start providing services.

You can use a BTS in a tower and provide internet connections to customers in line o sight with your tower and this can be done upto a few kilometres distance.

There are a lot of companies selling these products and I am researching on this with the help of a few cable operators on what works and what doesnt and what works the best.

This set up as explained in my other thread in this section works on 2.4Ghz frequency which does not need any licensing.

If you are really interested in starting isp services please watch this wireless networking sub forum for some time and you will find 100% accurate information along with all the technical knowhow which you would need to run your network.

But can he share the existing BSNL broadband service and use it inturn as wifi service?

On a small scale yes but on large scale the resource won't be sufficent.
like most routers have very less range.

If you looking to use your existing BSNL connection, then you have install third party firmwares to get Hotspot functionality like in public wireless networks.

I dont know about the legal aspects I was only answering the question he asked... he never asked wether what he is looking to do is legal or illegal... he might have an isp license with him ... who am I to judge?

Dear Admin n all friends,

Thanks for being supportive and replying to my thread.

Originally Posted by Admin

You can use a BTS in a tower and provide internet connections to customers in line o sight with your tower and this can be done upto a few kilometres distance.

There are a lot of companies selling these products and I am researching on this with the help of a few cable operators on what works and what doesnt and what works the best.

This set up as explained in my other thread in this section works on 2.4Ghz frequency which does not need any licensing.

If you are really interested in starting isp services please watch this wireless networking sub forum for some time and you will find 100% accurate information along with all the technical know how which you would need to run your network.

To start WISP only thing is that a operator have to first decide the frequency before going to forward. only selecting 2.4 Ghz is not sufficient first you have to do a site survey because ISM band works in 2.4 Ghz but it hace some limitations like channel overlapping if the same frequency uses in your area by other operator then both are interfered with each other and face limited connectivity and frequent disconnects. as per ISM band there are 11 standard channels out of which a operator have to select suitable channel to uses in their areas.

and for equipment related like coverage then i know some venders which provide equipments which can give you 100% 2 to 3 Kms area with NOLS which cost around 85000 INR which will be installed as a base station to transmit the signal and having back hole for further extension like amplifier you can install that equipments in different areas all node can inter connect up to a distance of 15 Kms.

This solution is only for those operators who want to present a good brand in the market because for small operators it will be costly.

Birender Singh Budhwar

Could you share some of these vendors?

Also, why wouldn't you use the license free 5.8 frequency? (wimax license free)

Have one central antenna with a backhaul and another receiving system

eV

Originally Posted by evolcre

Could you share some of these vendors?

Also, why wouldn't you use the license free 5.8 frequency? (wimax license free)

Have one central antenna with a backhaul and another receiving system

eV

Dear Friend,

As the frequency increase its wave length is decreased (Wave length definition) its means up to what distance your signal can carried like in meters or kilo meters.

2.4 GHz means its frequency is high but its wave length is very short so it can only covers only few meters like 50 to 100 only. But with the help of our high gain antennas we can extend these coverage but the thing is that they are not comes under Indian TRAI and DOT specified specifications like per channel what bandwidth can be used like 5 MHz to 25 MHz Max in India as per govt policy. So we can’t go against the govt policies other wise govt put fine.

For your unlicensed band 5.8 GHz it’s a very high frequency and it runs on LOS line of sight and it uses sector panel antennas. So we have some limitations because all wimax bases stations are not OFDMA and MIMO certified for signal rebusting like mobile wimax which is very costly for small operator and for big industry players to, but mobile wimax is not yet properly tested as per wimax it can works indoor also but this technology failed to work indoor.

The best now day’s available frequency is 2.4 GHz because this is the only equipment which can service NOLS client but only thing is that before starting it a person has to do a little field survey for other existing frequencies in the service area.

Now day’s equipments are available which can serve clients up to 1 Kms with high gain receivers like USB high gain wifi receiver which cost only 2500 to 3500. Where as for wimax CPE it cost more then 6500 and above…so which is cheaper. Wifi or Wimax.

For small operators wifi is the best choice you can charge your customer security deposit of 2500 to 3500 which is refundable at the time of surrender of the CPE back to you. You can but your terms like if we found that equipment is damage or not in working condition at the time if the termination of the connection then the deposit will be forfeited.

If any one is planning to start their ISP then they can contact me.., I will give you the full plan of mini WISP for 500 to 1000 customer’s project plan. With Wifi ISM band in 2.4. But a C class ISP license is to be obtained. You can get it by providing 3 Lakhs bank guarantee to govt DOT and annual fee of 2.5 percent of your turnover. Bank guarantee is only for your performance, govt want this guarantee for security of license which is given to you. If your performance is not satisfied then govt will incased this bank guarantee.

I think is information is sufficient for all who are planning to start their ISP business and for wireless questions.

I'm on my mobile and traveling so will reply in detail later. Just wanted to say thanks for your information. Very helpful.

5.8 ghz wimax equipment and setup is expensive, yes, but QOS is better and it can support long term goals. CPE is more expensive also, you are correct, but if you are serving a complex of 400 residents, you can put a receiver on the roof and drag ethernet into each flat.

All depends on what the end goal is.

How about licensing for ISP in India? Is it an easy process?

In terms of backhaul - T1 or DS3 (45Megs), how much approximate will bandwidth charges be? I'm trying to get quotes but it is a slow slow process. The providers have no vested interest in helping a new WISP

Cheers - Krish

Originally Posted by evolcre

I'm on my mobile and traveling so will reply in detail later. Just wanted to say thanks for your information. Very helpful.

5.8 ghz wimax equipment and setup is expensive, yes, but QOS is better and it can support long term goals. CPE is more expensive also, you are correct, but if you are serving a complex of 400 residents, you can put a receiver on the roof and drag ethernet into each flat.

All depends on what the end goal is.

How about licensing for ISP in India? Is it an easy process?

In terms of backhaul - T1 or DS3 (45Megs), how much approximate will bandwidth charges be? I'm trying to get quotes but it is a slow slow process. The providers have no vested interest in helping a new WISP

Cheers - Krish

In India Wimax is totally failed because of its line of sight only in a very near location like up to 500 to 700 meters it works fine if you are behind this distance then you face frequent disconnects because of the environmental conditions in India is very host and some area it is very cold ISM band frequencies are having reflection problems with show and water lakes so signal get reflected some time due to these kind of problems.

I am having more then 8 years of experience in wireless communications with all kind of frequencies like GSM ,CDMA, TDMA, WDMA etc. and I favorite ISM band.

For licensing it will take around 15 to 20 days only. For processing if you have already registered a company under 1956 act. And the same company can be obtained license (The information which I give you in my last post).

For ISP bandwidth is very big problems why because if they give you bandwidth then an ISP player feels insecure because one new player is entering the game and shares the customers. So that’s why they don’t show any interest for new ISP’s.

For ISP bandwidth is very big problems why because if they give you bandwidth then an ISP player feels insecure because one new player is entering the game and shares the customers. So that’s why they don’t show any interest for new ISP’s.

That's why I have asked for quotes from the parent company to support 'internal operations' *wink*

More later. I want to reply in detail. Thanks for your info

Krish

Not totally unrelated, would anyone recommend me a bulk bandwidth provider who'd let me set up last mile access at this location - 24.333 93.667 - Google Maps

The location is in Churachandpur district Manipur in north east india. BSNL is the only broadband access provider in the region - pathetic and unreliable; Cellphone providers - airtel, aircel, tata indicom, vodaphone.

Possibly a leased line or satellite access, 5-10Mbps initially. I'd appreciate any information on any provider who would be willing and if possible the costs and terms. Would be over a hybrid fiber (2 core single mode trunk) + coax (for cable tv drops) and cat5 (for internet access drops). I have arrangements for the equipments required. As for the actual gateway/firewall it's being developed and tested - in-house - based on Linux. Thanks

@hexawiz

Please contact Zylog systems(India) limited
Phone (91) 44 3915 7000 Fax (91) 44 3915 7009
w w w. zslinc. com
( note : No interest in the company : not related to me )
Para two ;an offer to install a WIFi node in our flat complex ,

and added benefit of access to superior WIFI technnology at no cost, till such time you allow us to use your premises

and free Internet upto 1 or 4Mbps speed for lifetime , or
till the wifi node remains in our flat.

.......will weigh less than 10 kgs
will occupy a min space of apprx 2 to 3 sq ft . power requirement for the nodes would be less than 30W. ....

PARA twO:
Please check TataIndicom.
Availability in North East States of India mentioned. :
HSIA Photon Usb Modem

Thanks essbebe for the quick info.

About Tata Photon in the region it's not widely available and even where it is, owing to the terrain and thick greens the signal is not very reliable. And my uncle happens to be the licensee for Tata Indicom around the place so I have had a little experience of it but I personally wouldn't recommend it. Hopefully it could be better in the major cities.

I'll check with zylog in the coming few days. Thanks again.

I'd looked to some VSAT providers in Indonesia and this is what I got

For CIR 1:4, equipment requirements are as follows :
1. VSAT Antenna at least 2.4m
2. Block Up Converter 5 Watt With LO Freq 4900 MHz
3. LNB DRO or LNB PLL
4. Modem iDirect 3100
Estimated at about 4500 US$

and the charges

Monthly charges
256kbps Down/64kbps Up - 5 usable IPs - US$ 550
512kbps Down/128kbps Up - 5 usable IPs - US$ 800
1024kbps Down/256kbps Up - 5 usable IPs - US$ 1550

miscellaneous charges

Activation: US$ 175
Installation: Not mentioned/Extra

That's a hellota monie and it ain't for me

WIFI Antenna boosters are available.
Usually the power out put of WIFI routers is around 20 mw.
we can boost upto 1 Watt or 2 Watt and with direction antenna range can be achieved.

http://www.wirelessgardenstore.com/d...p?Redirected=Y


Give a rough idea of the system you intend to set up.
What is the Budget ?

Wifi routers with Accesspoint mode also available.
They will boost the signal like repeaters.

Could be an interesting project.
Start small and then expand.

Hello Everybody,

I am new to this forum and wish to learn from people here. I need info about getting a class C ISP license and other requiremens. Would anyone guide?

Originally Posted by birender

Dear Friend,

As the frequency increase its wave length is decreased (Wave length definition) its means up to what distance your signal can carried like in meters or kilo meters.

2.4 GHz means its frequency is high but its wave length is very short so it can only covers only few meters like 50 to 100 only. But with the help of our high gain antennas we can extend these coverage but the thing is that they are not comes under Indian TRAI and DOT specified specifications like per channel what bandwidth can be used like 5 MHz to 25 MHz Max in India as per govt policy. So we can’t go against the govt policies other wise govt put fine.

For your unlicensed band 5.8 GHz it’s a very high frequency and it runs on LOS line of sight and it uses sector panel antennas. So we have some limitations because all wimax bases stations are not OFDMA and MIMO certified for signal rebusting like mobile wimax which is very costly for small operator and for big industry players to, but mobile wimax is not yet properly tested as per wimax it can works indoor also but this technology failed to work indoor.

The best now day’s available frequency is 2.4 GHz because this is the only equipment which can service NOLS client but only thing is that before starting it a person has to do a little field survey for other existing frequencies in the service area.

Now day’s equipments are available which can serve clients up to 1 Kms with high gain receivers like USB high gain wifi receiver which cost only 2500 to 3500. Where as for wimax CPE it cost more then 6500 and above…so which is cheaper. Wifi or Wimax.

For small operators wifi is the best choice you can charge your customer security deposit of 2500 to 3500 which is refundable at the time of surrender of the CPE back to you. You can but your terms like if we found that equipment is damage or not in working condition at the time if the termination of the connection then the deposit will be forfeited.

If any one is planning to start their ISP then they can contact me.., I will give you the full plan of mini WISP for 500 to 1000 customer’s project plan. With Wifi ISM band in 2.4. But a C class ISP license is to be obtained. You can get it by providing 3 Lakhs bank guarantee to govt DOT and annual fee of 2.5 percent of your turnover. Bank guarantee is only for your performance, govt want this guarantee for security of license which is given to you. If your performance is not satisfied then govt will incased this bank guarantee.

I think is information is sufficient for all who are planning to start their ISP business and for wireless questions.

Dear Birendra
I'd like to know the details for obtaining C grade ISP license. pls. forward me the details for project my email id is aakashbhatnagar@dataone.in

regards
Aakash bhatnagar

Originally Posted by birender

In India Wimax is totally failed because of its line of sight only in a very near location like up to 500 to 700 meters it works fine if you are behind this distance then you face frequent disconnects because of the environmental conditions in India is very host and some area it is very cold ISM band frequencies are having reflection problems with show and water lakes so signal get reflected some time due to these kind of problems.

I am having more then 8 years of experience in wireless communications with all kind of frequencies like GSM ,CDMA, TDMA, WDMA etc. and I favorite ISM band.

For licensing it will take around 15 to 20 days only. For processing if you have already registered a company under 1956 act. And the same company can be obtained license (The information which I give you in my last post).

For ISP bandwidth is very big problems why because if they give you bandwidth then an ISP player feels insecure because one new player is entering the game and shares the customers. So that’s why they don’t show any interest for new ISP’s.

no more Category C liscence issued by DOT only can apply for Class B with entry free also now. and the next stage in ISM is the high power to facilitate the Near-NLOS and that can be achieved by only making EIRP to 4 Watts of the base and the CPE to have RX more then - 85 and power more then 27db

Originally Posted by y3kindia

no more Category C liscence issued by DOT only can apply for Class B with entry free also now. and the next stage in ISM is the high power to facilitate the Near-NLOS and that can be achieved by only making EIRP to 4 Watts of the base and the CPE to have RX more then - 85 and power more then 27db

Still C class license can be availed its still avail ......., and for network our company have the full range of network setup equipments which can gives upto 5 kms connectivity with 1 Watt power output because in India we cant use more then 1 watt output power over ISM band.

Hi friend please my name is sajid from thane, give me your contact no. as im planning to start a wifi public internet business, you can suggeest me what should i do and how to do? please give e ur contact no. my no. is

Originally Posted by birender

Dear Friend,

As the frequency increase its wave length is decreased (Wave length definition) its means up to what distance your signal can carried like in meters or kilo meters.

2.4 GHz means its frequency is high but its wave length is very short so it can only covers only few meters like 50 to 100 only. But with the help of our high gain antennas we can extend these coverage but the thing is that they are not comes under Indian TRAI and DOT specified specifications like per channel what bandwidth can be used like 5 MHz to 25 MHz Max in India as per govt policy. So we can’t go against the govt policies other wise govt put fine.

For your unlicensed band 5.8 GHz it’s a very high frequency and it runs on LOS line of sight and it uses sector panel antennas. So we have some limitations because all wimax bases stations are not OFDMA and MIMO certified for signal rebusting like mobile wimax which is very costly for small operator and for big industry players to, but mobile wimax is not yet properly tested as per wimax it can works indoor also but this technology failed to work indoor.

The best now day’s available frequency is 2.4 GHz because this is the only equipment which can service NOLS client but only thing is that before starting it a person has to do a little field survey for other existing frequencies in the service area.

Now day’s equipments are available which can serve clients up to 1 Kms with high gain receivers like USB high gain wifi receiver which cost only 2500 to 3500. Where as for wimax CPE it cost more then 6500 and above…so which is cheaper. Wifi or Wimax.

For small operators wifi is the best choice you can charge your customer security deposit of 2500 to 3500 which is refundable at the time of surrender of the CPE back to you. You can but your terms like if we found that equipment is damage or not in working condition at the time if the termination of the connection then the deposit will be forfeited.

If any one is planning to start their ISP then they can contact me.., I will give you the full plan of mini WISP for 500 to 1000 customer’s project plan. With Wifi ISM band in 2.4. But a C class ISP license is to be obtained. You can get it by providing 3 Lakhs bank guarantee to govt DOT and annual fee of 2.5 percent of your turnover. Bank guarantee is only for your performance, govt want this guarantee for security of license which is given to you. If your performance is not satisfied then govt will incased this bank guarantee.

I think is information is sufficient for all who are planning to start their ISP business and for wireless questions.

hi birender please give me your contact no. as im planning to start a wi-fi public business im ready to spend money.... you tell your fees i will accept.... but please give me complete details of starting a wifi public business , and for that which kind of permissions vl be required and certification vl b required? please give me ur contact no.

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[QUOTE=sajid19991;233368]hi birender please give me your contact no. as im planning to start a wi-fi public business im ready to spend money.... you tell your fees i will accept.... but please give me complete details of starting a wifi public business , and for that which kind of permissions vl be required and certification vl b required? please give me ur contact no.QUOTE]

I Sajidand come on chat on skype i will guide your for the same.... and discuss the other aspects of the wifi ISP service.

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Hi everyone. I am also interested in starting wireless internet service in my town.
I need to serve not more than 4 kms area in all direction with around 300-400 customers(through a small survey) in first phase.
I will contact SIFY for internet bandwidth and prices. Sify is like the only option available here.

Read the admin's basic review on WISP in Delhi. Like he suggested Ubiquiti products.
Not much idea about the wireless networks. Here's where i am stuck. Which products should be used? Does it provide a hotspot functionality. Software , billing management required.
2.4ghz band is unused in my town.

If you are an expert in this field or running a WISP business. Do let me know how to contact you.
Thank You

Hi everyone. I am also interested in starting wireless internet service in my town.
I need to serve not more than 4 kms area in all direction with around 300-400 customers(through a small survey) in first phase.
I will contact SIFY for internet bandwidth and prices. Sify is like the only option available here.

Read the admin's basic review on WISP in Delhi. Like he suggested Ubiquiti products.
Not much idea about the wireless networks. Here's where i am stuck. Which products should be used? Does it provide a hotspot functionality. Software , billing management required.
2.4ghz band is unused in my town.

If you are an expert in this field or running a WISP business. Do let me know how to contact you.
Thank You

HI,

We are ISP provider in India. NOW i am starting wifi internet in DELHI/NCR and i am looking for delear's/Distributor for other state. IF u r interested than mail me on


regard's
Pankaj Singh

Spelling of Dealer is Dealer...


-F

Thaks for u r reply Brother

^^Welcome Bro.. the above message was a suggestion in a joke way, pls dont mind and dont get me harsh...


ps. : i am soft as home made chocos that end up melting inside the pockets..

OK bro woh jaldi mein kiya that's y

i know, btw i was spamming.. ;-)


where is my Guru, -F ???

Originally Posted by geonet

HI,

We are ISP provider in India. NOW i am starting wifi internet in DELHI/NCR and i am looking for delear's/Distributor for other state. IF u r interested than mail me on


regard's
Pankaj Singh

which ISP service you are running name of the company or its website....? your bandwidth provider ....?

Hi to all,

I like this forum. It will great help for me If anyone let me know the difference between the classes(A,B,C) in licensing of ISP in tamilnadu. And the required documents, Fee and other criteria.

Thanks in advance

Dear sir

I am planing to start ISP in my town in the radius of 6 kilometers what you suggest i go for wimax setup or wired fiber optic
i am excepting up to 300 to 400 home users and 2 mbps lease line to offices
Please suggest
I am waiting for your precious advise
Thanks & Regards
Lokesh Kumar
lokeshskumar@gmail.com

Originally Posted by birender

Dear Friend,

As the frequency increase its wave length is decreased (Wave length definition) its means up to what distance your signal can carried like in meters or kilo meters.

2.4 GHz means its frequency is high but its wave length is very short so it can only covers only few meters like 50 to 100 only. But with the help of our high gain antennas we can extend these coverage but the thing is that they are not comes under Indian TRAI and DOT specified specifications like per channel what bandwidth can be used like 5 MHz to 25 MHz Max in India as per govt policy. So we can’t go against the govt policies other wise govt put fine.

For your unlicensed band 5.8 GHz it’s a very high frequency and it runs on LOS line of sight and it uses sector panel antennas. So we have some limitations because all wimax bases stations are not OFDMA and MIMO certified for signal rebusting like mobile wimax which is very costly for small operator and for big industry players to, but mobile wimax is not yet properly tested as per wimax it can works indoor also but this technology failed to work indoor.

The best now day’s available frequency is 2.4 GHz because this is the only equipment which can service NOLS client but only thing is that before starting it a person has to do a little field survey for other existing frequencies in the service area.

Now day’s equipments are available which can serve clients up to 1 Kms with high gain receivers like USB high gain wifi receiver which cost only 2500 to 3500. Where as for wimax CPE it cost more then 6500 and above…so which is cheaper. Wifi or Wimax.

For small operators wifi is the best choice you can charge your customer security deposit of 2500 to 3500 which is refundable at the time of surrender of the CPE back to you. You can but your terms like if we found that equipment is damage or not in working condition at the time if the termination of the connection then the deposit will be forfeited.

If any one is planning to start their ISP then they can contact me.., I will give you the full plan of mini WISP for 500 to 1000 customer’s project plan. With Wifi ISM band in 2.4. But a C class ISP license is to be obtained. You can get it by providing 3 Lakhs bank guarantee to govt DOT and annual fee of 2.5 percent of your turnover. Bank guarantee is only for your performance, govt want this guarantee for security of license which is given to you. If your performance is not satisfied then govt will incased this bank guarantee.

I think is information is sufficient for all who are planning to start their ISP business and for wireless questions.

@kumarlokesh
delete your email address or give as
lokesh kumar @ g mail . com
http://www.indiabroadband.net/broadb...onsultant.html

Originally Posted by kumarlokesh

Dear sir

I am planing to start ISP in my town in the radius of 6 kilometers what you suggest i go for wimax setup or wired fiber optic
i am excepting up to 300 to 400 home users and 2 mbps lease line to offices
Please suggest
I am waiting for your precious advise
Thanks & Regards
Lokesh Kumar
lokeshskumar@gmail.com

Contact me on my mobile number: 09989295535 i will guide you what you are looking for.... as an ISP

Now days i am out station as i am checking it on my I-Phone so by email it is no possible you can call me tomorrow morning around 11:30 AM we will discuss the topic.

Since class c isp license is no more issued by DOT and class B license is much expensive for serving a small area. Is there any other option left for proving internet in semi urban/rural areas. I had a talk with few ISP's. They all require me to have an ISP license.

Does any company provide reseller/franchise based options.
Medium for Internet distribution: Cable/WiFi.

try member @birender

Contact me on my mobile number: 09989295535 i will guide you what you are looking for.... as an ISP

Also Google search: TIKONA and ZYLOG

thank you essbebe. I will contact them and see what options are available.

Originally Posted by birender

Still C class license can be availed its still avail ......., and for network our company have the full range of network setup equipments which can gives upto 5 kms connectivity with 1 Watt power output because in India we cant use more then 1 watt output power over ISM band.

Dear Birender
can u please help me in getting C class licence in Orissa

Originally Posted by geonet

HI,

We are ISP provider in India. NOW i am starting wifi internet in DELHI/NCR and i am looking for delear's/Distributor for other state. IF u r interested than mail me on


regard's
Pankaj Singh

hi pankaj,
I like to work with your organization in MP state tell me what to do please provide me your cell number or call on my number 9826449707 omprakash.
Thanks
omprakash

Originally Posted by geonet

HI,

We are ISP provider in India. NOW i am starting wifi internet in DELHI/NCR and i am looking for delear's/Distributor for other state. IF u r interested than mail me on


regard's
Pankaj Singh

please contect me or give me your cell number my number is 9826449707 omprakash.
Thanks
omprakash

Hi Omprakash,

We are starting similar project in Orissa. It will be commissioned till February 1st week.

Infrastructure required to setup is a basestation at some place which is higher or construct a tower over which antennas shall be mounted.

Customers around the base station(100 mtrs) can connect directly and rest with the help of CPEs till 4-5 kms.

Bandwidth has to be taken from some ISPs like Reliance, Aircell, Airtel etc which shall be terminated to a PC/Server having min. 2 lan cards (1 for ISPs Link and Other to be connected to Radios mounted on tower). PCs shall be loaded with software for managing accounts, authorisation and accountability.

But to distribute internet you should have to get ISP licence or look for some ISP who can share their licence with you.

Initial cost to setup BaseStation, 24 mtr. guy rope tower, 2 mbps bandwidth, with PC and software costs around Rs.4.50 lacs to Rs.5.00 lacs

if you like any further help please mail me at b.sharma@kediacom.com

Hey Essbebe...can you pm me any contacts for consulting firm or anyone who can help me understand the setup and other details in Delhi about setting up isp .

Thanks.

@rising.
09989295535 contact member @birender please
or send email listed in Post No 43 .
Note down the number and email, which may be deleted by @moderator.
Details such as these to be shared in PM's Private messages.


Para two:
NCR should have been saturated by now.
How many users you will get ? Big Flat complex with more than say 100 flats ?
Find out who is the competitor in your area ?
Tikona?Airtel/MTNL/ Reliance etc. Cable BB ?
Now with 3G towers coming up a small ISP's chances of survival are bleak.
Please mention your technical background.

i want 2 sell wifi to the guests of a hotel,but the hotel owner is not allowing me to install routers inside the building .so i want install it on a nearby building and release signals through amplifires & antinas. i want 2 know that upto what radius i can release signal without licence.or what shall be the charge of licence if i need to get licenced.

also please suggest a good highpower device set required to easily penetrate the outer walls of room
all rooms are located outside so as to signal has to penetrate a single wall only

@Sashi

What is the distance between the hotel rooms and where you want to place your equipment? Even a normal wireless router from any company would do just fine if its just across the road. I would suggest you borrow someones router and place it where you want to place it and get hold of a wifi enabled mobile phone and go check if the signal is alright in every room.

It would help if you could tell us a bit more about the location and number of rooms and how many guests you expect to be logging in at the same time and so on to give you better ideas.

What I said above was assuming that its some place like Shimla or Dharamshala or something and you run a cyber cafe across the road from some 20-30 room hotel and want to sell wifi access to guests.

please make it clear that if i simply install router for providing wifi service in my locality (500m) at 2.4GHz ,I WON'T RWQUIRE ANY LICENSE.

dear sir,
i will place high power routers/repeaters etc.so as to let the signal penetrate each walls but i mainly want to ask u that is it legal to install router outside the hotel. at places like nearby(10-100m) building or street light/electricity pole.

*rooms: 50
*average load: 45 guests
*sir i don't have a cafe nereby,i'm just planing to get a flat on rent.outer view.jpg

dear sir,
i will place high power routers/repeaters etc.so as to let the signal penetrate each walls but i mainly want to ask u that is it legal to install router outside the hotel. at places like nearby(10-100m) building or street light/electricity pole.

*rooms: 50
*average load: 45 guests
*sir i don't have a cafe nereby,i'm just planing to get a flat on rent.Attachment 11230outer view.jpg

Originally Posted by Admin

@Sashi

What is the distance between the hotel rooms and where you want to place your equipment? Even a normal wireless router from any company would do just fine if its just across the road. I would suggest you borrow someones router and place it where you want to place it and get hold of a wifi enabled mobile phone and go check if the signal is alright in every room.

It would help if you could tell us a bit more about the location and number of rooms and how many guests you expect to be logging in at the same time and so on to give you better ideas.

What I said above was assuming that its some place like Shimla or Dharamshala or something and you run a cyber cafe across the road from some 20-30 room hotel and want to sell wifi access to guests.

You need a Cat3 license and from what I understand it would cost you Rs3lakh and a lot of waiting to get it. The best option for you would be to go the franchise route with a company like Sify or something similar and set up an office near by and beam the signal from your tower. There is no shortcut to this and will need a substantial investment to begin with but with a company behind you to support you with marketing and everything you have a better chance of success and a lot less to loose.

To set up a wifi network for the entire building you would need a professional. Generally speaking where ever you buy your equipment from they have guys who have good experience with installing setups like the one you want and they charge a nominal fee to come to your place and help with all the setup and everything. There are plenty of distributors for different company products in Delhi and Mumbai and many other cities.

sir i want to know that is there any permissable range upto which i can release signal,without any license .

is there any alternative way to do that.

or please suggest some ISP who are willing to share their licence or give just permission as a independent hotspot operator against some amount of revenue share or fixed charge.

sir,
as u have suggested to get tie up to sify but please suggest some license holder who allows to work under their roof as an independent hotspot operator against some revenue share.

I have no idea if there are companies that have such setups in India.

Originally Posted by Admin

You can use a BTS in a tower and provide internet connections to customers in line o sight with your tower and this can be done upto a few kilometres distance.

There are a lot of companies selling these products and I am researching on this with the help of a few cable operators on what works and what doesnt and what works the best.

This set up as explained in my other thread in this section works on 2.4Ghz frequency which does not need any licensing.

If you are really interested in starting isp services please watch this wireless networking sub forum for some time and you will find 100% accurate information along with all the technical knowhow which you would need to run your network.

i also want to do the same thing in my locality hardly in a range of 100-200 metres.so sir as per ur statement above if i simply install a router and start sell the internet to my neighbours, i need not to get any license.I will provide internet using reliance/bsnl commercial brodband.WILL IT BE FINE OR I NEED SOMETHING MORE.

SIR PLEASE REPLY SOON..........I'M WAITING!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Shashi Shekhar

i also want to do the same thing in my locality hardly in a range of 100-200 metres.so sir as per ur statement above if i simply install a router and start sell the internet to my neighbours, i need not to get any license.I will provide internet using reliance/bsnl commercial brodband.WILL IT BE FINE OR I NEED SOMETHING MORE.

SIR PLEASE REPLY SOON..........I'M WAITING!!!!!!!!

You need to be patient. Today is a Sunday.

If I read your requirements correctly, you wish to provide internet service over wi-fi. You CANNOT do that without a license. You require license:

- from the police to provide wireless internet services
- from the ISP to distribute their service

Originally Posted by Shashi Shekhar

i also want to do the same thing in my locality hardly in a range of 100-200 metres.so sir as per ur statement above if i simply install a router and start sell the internet to my neighbours,!

it is not just about providing internet by. how you will track users what they are doing on net.

I mean to say if someone uploads adult, illegal or child pornography material, it will be you that will go to jail not the wifi users, because you will not have any proper logs about your users

Originally Posted by Shashi Shekhar

i also want to do the same thing in my locality hardly in a range of 100-200 metres.so sir as per ur statement above if i simply install a router and start sell the internet to my neighbours, i need not to get any license.I will provide internet using reliance/bsnl commercial brodband.WILL IT BE FINE OR I NEED SOMETHING MORE.

SIR PLEASE REPLY SOON..........I'M WAITING!!!!!!!!

No I only meant that the frequency is free to use 2.4 and 5.8 but what you do with those waves is an entirely different matter. Tikona for example used 2.4Ghz frequency for last mile and they don't have to pay any one to use that frequency but they have an ISP license so no it does not mean that you can do whatever you like with unlicensed frequencies.

If I was you I would talk to some wireless equipment distributors at Nehru place in Delhi and see what they say and they will take active interest as well if you tell them you are looking to buy from them but only after the legal requirements are met if there are any.

Originally Posted by geonet

HI,

We are ISP provider in India. NOW i am starting wifi internet in DELHI/NCR and i am looking for delear's/Distributor for other state. IF u r interested than mail me on


regard's
Pankaj Singh

hi
i'm shekhar and i'm very serious in the wifi business..........please tell me the details @ 09835*****4 or send me the procedure & UR CONTACT DETAILS.
i want to let u know that i have the all the thing but i dont have the isp license.......so i need the same against some charge from an existing CAT A ISP......

AWAITING UR RESPONSE AT THE EARLIEST............MR. PANKAJ

how to get C grade ISP licence from government please tell me detail process my email mraskar3@gmail.com

Hi, now days govt stop issuing the C class license only A and B category available