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Why the Facebook Youtube could not start in India!?!

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    Default Why the Facebook Youtube could not start in India!?!

    How India ISP are killing 120 krore Future!!

    Indian Internet Service providers are unREASONable in charging user US$ 8 for one GB of Data in the name of providing broadband at high speed ( Down 100 Mbps UP 5 Mbps) whereas in Vancouver/Canada Shaw charges for provding (Down 250 Mbps UP 15 Mbps) only for 11 cents for one GB of data.
    During the last 10 years, the cost of optical fibre and networking equipments have dropped drastically, but ISP keep on looting.
    When you go for UNLIMITED, Shaw charges 16 cents for 100 GB of data with down 250 Mbps 15 Mbps. Thus TATA charges 5112 times in name of high speed. Indian users are forced to choose a bad plan from group of unsuitable plans by MTNL, Airtel, BSNL, Tata and others.

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    What has this got to do with facebook or youtube? and the future? Just trying to get the idea that prompted you to post this thread.

    And do you mind sharing the ISP in Canada that provides 250Mbps downlink at 11cents per GB?
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    Comparing India with other countries won't be just. It is true that we are getting lower value for money, but in Canada or US or UK, the same labour is rewarded many times the value of that in India. They get Coke for their 1 or 2 or their currency for which we pay at least 15.

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    Creation of website such has youtube facebook or any other site requires enormous bandwidth. If bandwidth is not available at proper cost, then it may kill creativity from the mind of many Indian tech kids.
    If painting canvas is not available, how any body can think of painting?

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    For hosting a website you can buy bandwidth at the same price an American or Canadian or anyone else can buy. Hosting has no boundaries. This website is hosted in USA not India and its by choice not compulsion.

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    shaw.ca/Internet/Compare-Plans

    kindly put www before

    then
    choose British Columbia and then Surrey

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    Sorry I still dont get this. How would this 250mbps connection help in creating a good website? Suppose you had a 250mbps connection how would it behave any differently as compared to a 512kbps connection as far as innovation is conscerned?

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    Hosting can be done here or there. Just matter of choice. we should think why Indians opt US for hosting. but
    Indian users can not be given royal treatment unless ISP starts charging reasonably.
    India can not increase the farming land to reduce in food prices but there is not the case with bandwidth. Only it need few fibers and cheap Chinese equipments.

    250 mbps comes with 15 mbps upload.
    Moreover when user ask them to balance the down and up, hhen ISP's customer service representatives are happy to provide increase in upload speed without any extra charge.
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    Only it need few fibers and cheap Chinese equipments.

    Even with that, we need billions to setup internet infrastructure capable of such speeds. Only private players can do that, but they prefer only cities not smaller towns.

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    I got it all mixed up. Sorry I am gonna have to ask again... what is it that we are talking about? The fact that Indians are not able to create good websites or why we dont have good webhosting available in India? or something else?

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    Now the India is not poor country and can achieve whatever it takes to become super Power, only it need properly guided movement.

    There is lot of talent in Indian but when Infrastructure providing companies look for their profits and completely ignore India' Future Potential then there will be urge in Indian to immigrate to other countries US-Aus-NZ or Canada.
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    Why dont you start providing good infrastructure and high speed broadband? You have my full moral support.

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    Friend,
    I do not have any idea where do you live. Right now I am residing in New Delhi. We can ask our govt to provide optical fiber to each and every home whether they require internet or not. One company has already done this (Radius Infratel ). Only we(large number of users) need to ask Prime minister office, PMO and DOT to move in right direction.

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    Is this Shaw company in Canada that you provided a link for run by the Canadian government?
    Why dont you start providing fiber optic connectivity to every home in Delhi? Why leave it to the government? Dont they have other things to take care of like law and order and financial planning and everything?

    hst99999
    Dont get me wrong. I am not saying you are wrong or right. I am just trying to understand your concept.
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    Shaw may not be supported by govt but they definitely do not run after short term profits.
    Infrastructure such as road, electricity, water, is usually provided by govt.
    We are not challenging ISPs but we want them to be REASONable in providing plans.

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    We can ask our govt to provide optical fiber to each and every home whether they require internet or not.

    Many in India will trade this for uninterrupted water supply and power supply to every home. Or some for ensuring food all three times a day.

    we want them to be REASONable in providing plans

    Your point is valid, but many want reasonable cost in health care systems and life saving operations like heart surgery which now costs lakhs of rupees. Some would prefer better roads, buses and trains using which they can reach home, office, college etc without hanging for hours and stuck in traffic.
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    These ISPs are all Indian companies run by Indians for the Indians.. there must be something wrong with the values they grew up with and I guess most of them were born and brought up in India. There obviously is something wrong with the culture, morals and the Indian mindset and the society that these people as you said are after short term profits.
    So basically its all about morality... Canadians are morally superior then their Indian counterparts? Is this the right conclusion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hst99999 View Post
    Creation of website such has youtube facebook or any other site requires enormous bandwidth. If bandwidth is not available at proper cost, then it may kill creativity from the mind of many Indian tech kids.
    If painting canvas is not available, how any body can think of painting?
    so you think youtube and facebook was started on the home computers. both were quite planned projects.

    The speed that we get is download speed not upload speed and to start a website you need good uplink speed.

    People have good internet connections in USA and other developed nations but no one hosts their websites in their home because they know it does not works

    We are not challenging ISPs but we want them to be REASONable in providing plans
    so that you can download lots of illegal content easily.

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    It is a shame that Facebook could not start in India. There are social networking sites which have started in India, but not really been a success, maybe it is something which would be not work well if started in India.

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