Thread: Solution for multiple machines connecting to same BB connection

This is the same guide that was posted in the BSNL forum.

With the creation of this sub-forum, I have recreated the thread here. Please post all comments on this thread from now on.

Whereas the guide mentions BSNL at many places, it can be substituted for any telephony based broadband ISP's details.

Please note that VPI and VCI values will change for every ISP.

1. Values for BSNL: VPI = 0, VCI = 35
2. Values for MTNL: VPI = 0, VCI = 32

@Other folks, please post VPI/VCI values for your ISP. Many thanks.

For the guide, refer here: http://www.indiabroadband.net/bsnl-b...html#post12663 (Solution for multiple machines connecting to same BB connection)

dear
from the previous procedure i set my modem provided by the bsnl dataone zxdsl 381AII. after setting its all 4 light on and colexant indicator some visible on right of screen all the pc but the internet is not reply. even switch alot automatically ip to all the system.
Now i tell what i have done up to now .
first i connect my modem to switch of 16 port. throught rj45 as slot is provided in modem and cable. then connect to 192.168.1.1 by which modem congfi. open login in it edit 0_35, enable pppoe over ethernet, set isp service name, username, password, always on, automatic ip conf. and apply it. it connet to bsnl and automatically show a ip on it. but the internet is not working so help to sort this problem.

Gautamsandeep25,

Please explain your network (hardware) setup and connection - starting from the telephone point. Include each and every device such as splitter, modem, switch, router, PC, etc.

@just4kix: applied your guide.. and ta da, it started working.. i took some backups before doing your procedure and from then on it was a breeze.

@other users:if you have problems opening the ZIP file, then use winRAR to open the file and then click repair archive. now it will work. repair archive is located in one of the menu's...

hey just4kix
great post you have..just needed some help...i have a siemens sl2-141 modem..my wireless was working fine until another friend who wanted access to my computer could not connect while i was connected. so i stumbled on this post...well to tell you my prob:

i am using a dial up to connect to the broadband...because that ways its easier for my night downloading...so is it because of that two ppl are not able to connect to the same broadband...what is the solution for it do i have to always have an on connection.

the next thing i want to knw in sl2-141 can two ppl connect to the broadband using wireless only...is it possible or only one person can connect to the broadband using the wireless network..

eagerly waiting for your help.....

Originally Posted by rohit876

i am using a dial up to connect to the broadband...because that ways its easier for my night downloading...so is it because of that two ppl are not able to connect to the same broadband...what is the solution for it do i have to always have an on connection.

You have two options:

a) You can connect to internet via another computer. This is known as Internet connection sharing. The first computer connects to the internet via dialing the modem. The internet connection is shared in the first computer. The second connects to the first computer and connects to the internet via this (first) computer. The disadvantage is that the first computer must always be ON and connected to computer.

b) The second and better way is to configure the modem in PPPoE mode. The guide in this post explains how.

Originally Posted by rohit876

the next thing i want to knw in sl2-141 can two ppl connect to the broadband using wireless only...is it possible or only one person can connect to the broadband using the wireless network..

eagerly waiting for your help.....

Yes. It is possible for two computers to connect via wireless only. In fact more than two can connect. Just note that the bandwidth will be shared by all computers connected simulataneously.

hey just4kix
thx for the reply...had one more query so if i go onto pppoe mode ..how do i do my night downloads...i will explain what i am doing right now so u could suggest something

i use a dial up to connect to the broadband... before sleeping i put my laptop on hibernate...have downloaded a software called auto power on... it automatically wakes up my computer and restarts..i have put the dial up on startup so once it restarts it automatically connects to the net and the auto power on starts the torrent....it also shut the torrent and shuts down my computer around 8...

what i wanted to know was can i do i similar thing in pppoe...is restarting equivalent to anew connection for the free download to be valid...
pls suggest
thx.

Read the "Broadband How to" section for my method. Nethack has also posted a link to such software. Both methods work.

This is a little bit too complicated for me, I think I'll ask support if I ever have problems with this.

hi guys ....

i don't know setting for MTNL and BSNL

for sharing to 4 PC in my home i just took a HUB ...........

connect the LAN cable of modem to hub ............
connect another all 4 PC's to hub ................

than in there TCP/IP properties just give the DNS both prefered and alternative one .............and allow IP address to obtain automatically

after that just restart ur PC's and u cann access ur net .............without making server to any PC ...........and use internet in all PC's individualluy

just condition is that ur modem and ur HUB should be swithed one when any of the PC's connected have to access the net ....................

thanks guys

Hi guys,

Thanks for your valuable information. Still i am confused of how and what to do, let me tell my problems, then please give solution or provide a link where i can get solution

1) I am using a shared modem, my isp is youtele, tech guy has come to my house and connected to me pc, i just have a lan cable connected to my pc, i dont have modem with me, as it is shared by all members in my building. Now i want to connect to my laptop, ofcourse i dont use both pc and laptop at a time, atleast it has to connect if i use only laptop, but i dont know how to setup connection to my laptop. please help me in this case.

2) even if my laptop connects i cant remove lan cable from pc and connect to my laptop every time, so i want to setup an intenal wireless hub/router, I want to know is it possible and how can i do it, and any suggestions on company brands.

Waiting for your replies
thank you,
madhu

Hi Guys,

I need help in setting multiple connections with BSNL ,my modem type is WA3002G4,i followed the settings as given in the forum.

When i individually connect from my pc i am able to connect the dataone connection, but when i try to connect from my second pc where my first pc is already connected it throws me "691 error":invalid user name/password.

any suggestions?
thanks in advance,

Kiran

You need to setup the modem in PPPoE mode. In this mode, the modem dials and establishes the connection automatically. The (ISP) username and pasword is stored in the modem. The modem connects automatically as soon as it is switched on. In fact modem establishes connection when switched on, whether it is connected to PC or not.

thanks just4kix,

corrected the settings...now the problem is solved..Many thanks!!!

i am having a airtel connection and 110BX1 beetel.
i want to share it with my old pc and i have two lan cards in my pc. how do i share the connection.my other pc have the ip address of 192.168.0.1

hie allll...
am still having problem ....i guess the page format for DSL Router has been changed somewhat...having problems in setting in PPPoE mode....
after rebooting the connection, the PPPoE status in Router page is "Authentication Failure"....and am still unable to dial thruogh 2 pcs to the broadband...

plz helpppppppppp

i tried these settings...


"For Bridging
ATM Interface: PVC-0
VPI: 0
VCI: 35
Virtual Circuit: Enabled
WAN Settings: Bridge Mode
Connection Type: 1483 Bridged IP LLC

For PPPoE
ATM Interface: PVC-0
VPI: 0
VCI: 35
Virtual Circuit: Enabled
WAN Settings: PPPoE/PPPoA
Username: <your ISP username>
Password: <your password>
Connection Type: PPPoE LLC
MRU: 1492
Authentication: PAP
Obtain DNS Automatically: Enabled
Default Route: Enabled
NAT: Enabled
IGMP: Disabled"

are there any different settings for Dataone NOKIA SEIMENS SL2_141

like we don not have any virtual circuit, MRU settings..

I have a question to the network experts here.

If we use PPOE mode, then the username/password is stored inside the adsl-modem, and its autodials & establish the connection, irrespective of whether PC is ON or off.

1. I assume in this mode the user has no control over the connection, & hence switching off connection at 8:00AM (for taking benefit of unlimited download) is NOT possible.
Am I right in this assumption?
I am getting confused, since in these forums I am seeing scripts (vbs & autohotkey) which attempts to disconnect connection @ 8:00AM, in ppoe mode.

I have been using till now, modem in ppoe mode itself, but keep un-filled the username/password inside the modem. So I can use the ppoe-dialup from my PC to establish connection. So I have more control over the connect/disconnct process. I have being using taskscheduler, (rasdial batch script) to connect at 2:00AM and disconnect @ 8:00AM, successfully for past 1-2 years.

I have beeing using ppoe-mode this way instead of bridge, since my understanding is that you have a more secure PC connection in this ppoe mode (with firewall) , unlike in bridge mode. So you are more protected against hacks/spams etc, compared to bridge mode.
I want to confirm from experst here, my understanding is correct. Or are there flaws in it?

Now my problem with this approach is that I cannot simultaneously connect more than 1 PC to internet, even though I can connect 4 pcs to my WA3002G4 modem.
Only one PC at a time I can dial to internet.

I understand from this forum that, by using the same PPOE mode & entering username/password, into the modem itslef, I need not dial from my PC, but modem autodials for you. In this way, mutiple PCs can connect to internet. But I am loosing the individual control over connection.

2. Pls tell me if there is a reliable way to switch off connection @ 8:00AM, in this mode.
3. Pls also tell me the inyternal modem firewall (& NAT) is ON at this time. (Not the Windows-XP OS firewall).
Thanks & regards

Originally Posted by valmiki0

I have a question to the network experts here.

If we use PPOE mode, then the username/password is stored inside the adsl-modem, and its autodials & establish the connection, irrespective of whether PC is ON or off.

1. I assume in this mode the user has no control over the connection, & hence switching off connection at 8:00AM (for taking benefit of unlimited download) is NOT possible.
Am I right in this assumption?
I am getting confused, since in these forums I am seeing scripts (vbs & autohotkey) which attempts to disconnect connection @ 8:00AM, in ppoe mode.

I have been using till now, modem in ppoe mode itself, but keep un-filled the username/password inside the modem. So I can use the ppoe-dialup from my PC to establish connection. So I have more control over the connect/disconnct process. I have being using taskscheduler, (rasdial batch script) to connect at 2:00AM and disconnect @ 8:00AM, successfully for past 1-2 years.

I have beeing using ppoe-mode this way instead of bridge, since my understanding is that you have a more secure PC connection in this ppoe mode (with firewall) , unlike in bridge mode. So you are more protected against hacks/spams etc, compared to bridge mode.
I want to confirm from experst here, my understanding is correct. Or are there flaws in it?

Now my problem with this approach is that I cannot simultaneously connect more than 1 PC to internet, even though I can connect 4 pcs to my WA3002G4 modem.
Only one PC at a time I can dial to internet.

I understand from this forum that, by using the same PPOE mode & entering username/password, into the modem itslef, I need not dial from my PC, but modem autodials for you. In this way, mutiple PCs can connect to internet. But I am loosing the individual control over connection.

2. Pls tell me if there is a reliable way to switch off connection @ 8:00AM, in this mode.
3. Pls also tell me the inyternal modem firewall (& NAT) is ON at this time. (Not the Windows-XP OS firewall).
Thanks & regards

Your method will work but your assumption that "because in PPPoE, username/pwd is store in modem, and it auto-dials, it is therefor not possible to take benefit of 2AM to 8 AM free download" is wrong.

PPPoE and Autodial has nothing to do with this. All one needs to do is re-establish connection after 2 AM and once again before 8 AM. How this is done is the question:

a) In the Bridge mode, this is done by the 'rasdial' script and scheduling it at 2:05 AM and 7:55 AM
b) In the PPPoE mode, this is done by the 'telnet' script. But the telnet script is not a one liner like the rasdial scipt and hence it requires a wrapper. The wrapper comes in form of executables like TST10 or an EXE creater such as AutoHotkey or Imran's BB utlity. Refer here:

1. Automatic rebooting of router at 2 AM and 8 AM
2. Ultimate Night Usage Manager.

a dummies way is to just cut off the power supply (a.k.a. switch off) for the modem and then power it on again.

but to have it automated, just follow the links given by j4k

hello just4kix ,
can you please help me as how to access reliance's modem? i am not able to change its settings so that i can connect it to my dlink switch

vikram

Originally Posted by viky_s

hello just4kix ,
can you please help me as how to access reliance's modem? i am not able to change its settings so that i can connect it to my dlink switch

vikram

Are you using Reliance Wimax? If yes, then it will not be possible.

@viky_s
from thread:
http://www.indiabroadband.net/relian...ng-switch.html (Using Reliance Broadband with dling switch)

i have a reliance broadband connection. i want to share this connection with 4 of my pcs connected via a switch. please help me configure this connection. i have connected the lan cable from reliance router to my switch. but after setting up my ip / gateway and dns i am not able to access the net or go to router config.

regards vikram

@sujithsukrutham Change the TCP IP setting of all PCS to "obtain ip address automatically" then try

thanks,
yes i tried that and then i can access net connection form other pcs but i also want
data transfer between my pcs! how to connect to other pc without its IP?
i am not able to access my reliance modem to change its settings alos?

Mention the reliance modem you use..
Is it ZTE ZXDSL 831 Aii or 531?
I humbly request you to avoid posting for same problem. in different threads.

Mention the OS used in different computers.


Problem (a)Now is it file/printer sharing in a LAN
(b)or Modem access to achieve above objective
(c) or some other reason/problem ?
? .

Hi Just4kix,
i am not able to download ur attached file Multiple Connections Primer.zip whic.
This is not accessable to me. can u please send me over
Thanks

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Originally Posted by santosh.rawool

Hi Just4kix,
i am not able to download ur attached file Multiple Connections Primer.zip whic.
This is not accessable to me. can u please send me over
Thanks

Welcome to IBF, santosh.

What is the message that you are getting?

Sometimes, first timers get this error. Try again, please. Also, disable any download manager and then retry.