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    Toolman,

    u can log-in the router config. page by typing 192.168.1.1 in internet explorer... it will ask for username & password... Type admin in both fields(its by default)... now a new status page will open... scroll down... there u can see things like snr margin & line attenuation..if ur downstream snr is > 20 then its fine... & line attenuation should be < 20... else get ur line chkd...

    hope it helps...

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    Thnk for the response and I did as directed .... this what wht i was looking for and got
    my results as seen on my dsl page is as follows
    Snr downstream : 26.8 +/- 2 or 3
    Snr Up stream : 18.0 fixed

    line attenuation :downstream :37.0 fixed
    Up stream : 13.5 fixed

    whts is upstream and down stream definations pls ?
    I guess my attenuation downstream is not so good and i guess its b'coz my line is scratchy ....

    regds toolman /~

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    U can see 1st post of this thread to get answers of ur questions...
    btw, unless u r facing any problem in ur internet connection nothing should worry u...

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    Very informative post!

    repped you...

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    Hey,
    my SNR ratio is 12.5 upstream ans 15 downstream. Its on the lower side right??
    Attenuation is 15.5 and 8.9. This is supposed to be rally great. Right?

    Whats the reason for this i.e good attenuation and bad snr, is it common.
    BTW i am getting only about 1.5 mb speed during free time. Is this normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambush View Post
    Hey,
    my SNR ratio is 12.5 upstream ans 15 downstream. Its on the lower side right??
    Attenuation is 15.5 and 8.9. This is supposed to be rally great. Right?

    Whats the reason for this i.e good attenuation and bad snr, is it common.
    BTW i am getting only about 1.5 mb speed during free time. Is this normal.
    SNR Margin and Line Attenuation are two different things. The Line ATtenuation in your case is low, probably because your line is freshly laid and has little resistance. SNR Margin is not very bad for you but an improvement will not harm. SNR Margin can be on the lower side due to quality of signal at the exchange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ambush View Post
    Hey,
    my SNR ratio is 12.5 upstream ans 15 downstream. Its on the lower side right??
    Attenuation is 15.5 and 8.9. This is supposed to be rally great. Right?

    Whats the reason for this i.e good attenuation and bad snr, is it common.
    BTW i am getting only about 1.5 mb speed during free time. Is this normal.
    The attenuation is really low and ideally u should be getting 30+ dB of SNR. Dont know why the modem is displaying 15dB.

    Attenuation is dependent upon factors like distance between the modem and the exchange, the amount of cabling being used, the number of nodes and internodes. And both the attenuation and snr are inversely proportional. Low attenuation = high snr and high attenuation = low snr.

    Most of the subscribers are getting he speeds which u had mentioned during the night time. Hence there is no need to worry about that.

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    hey thanks for the great info bout these terms kix...!

    repped!

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    Thanks, starryknight.

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    hey u dint return the favor :lol:

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    Hey, I did give you a repo on 19-Feb-2009 @ 5:54 pm. Check your User CP.

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    aah that was you ...hehe so i returned the favor

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    More than that - one repo from me earns you 8 points.

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    accha so thats wht the rep power means .. thx for that kix!

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    Some posts by surinder1508 and replies to those posts were moved here: http://www.indiabroadband.net/bsnl-b...ull-speed.html (BSNL conection not giving full speed)

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    Thanks just4kix it was good to about it...can u also state the difference (Vendor ID (Local/Remote):TMMB / BDCM)

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    Thanks just4kix it was good to about it...can u also define Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / BDCM

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    @dlalhosn
    can u also define Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / BDCM
    Usually none checks these !
    snr attn power line speed check itself
    gives some idea about line conditions.

    PARA TW0: for more information :

    From GOOGLE search :

    Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / BDCM
    TMMB in the speedtouch is actually broadcom, its just speedtouch want to be special.
    You can get the firmware and the upgrade utility here.
    h t t p://xxxxxxxxx/routers/( *redirects to wrong website
    5 CPE Vendor ID to Integrated Circuit Manufacturer

    5.1 ADSL/ADSL2+

    ALCB = Alcatel (now ST Micro)
    ANDV = Analog Devices
    BDCM = Broadcom
    GSPN = Globespan
    IFTN = Infineon
    STMI = ST Micro
    TMMB = Thomson Multimedia Broadband
    REF:xDSL KnowledgeBase - www.hardwarezone.com.sg
    Last edited by essbebe; 03-09-09 at 09:47 AM.

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    How do I measure / check my SNR & line attenuation ?
    Totally am new to brandband as sombody said i have logged into the moderm but i dont knoe how to get thsi information (i didn't find any text "SNR" or "line attenuation")

    My system Config
    OS:windowsXP
    ModemNA-A211-I

    below is the image of my router's login page

    h**p:// img136.imageshack.us /img136/8620/ modem.jpg

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    Default DNA-A211-I SNR/Attn data page.

    under Device info/Statistics ADSL

    Device Info
    Summary
    WAN
    Statistics
    LAN
    WAN
    ATM
    ADSL
    Route
    ARP
    DHCP
    ......
    ...............
    DSL
    Diagnostics
    Management
    Statistics -- ADSL

    Mode: ADSL2 AnnexM EU-56
    Type: Fast
    Line Coding: Trellis On
    Status: No Defect
    Link Power State: L0

    Downstream Upstream
    SNR Margin (dB): 30.3 9.6
    Attenuation (dB): 7.5 29.2
    Output Power (dBm): -16.7 6.0
    Attainable Rate (Kbps): 11684 1787
    Rate (Kbps): 2063 519
    Last edited by essbebe; 03-24-09 at 01:44 AM.

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    h**p:// i40.tinypic.com /2i0g7f5.jpg

    i got the result thanks for ur help!

    check it out please did I have do anything for my torrent speed to increase
    now iam getting average 120KBps, highest 180KBps

    i Downloaded axxo torrents form mininova.org

    i have these problem also ht*p://www .indiabroadband. net/bsnl-broadband/16371-limited-no-connectivity-bridge-mode-guys-plz-help-me.html

    config:
    TCP/IP connection changed to 50
    Utorrent
    setting half** to 50
    OS: WInXP sp2
    modem : bridge mode
    Last edited by anbutorrent; 03-24-09 at 01:48 PM.

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    @anbutorrent
    The link given wrongly. It should be png instead of jpg.
    Your ADSl stats are fine.
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    i40.tinypic.com/2i0g7f5.png
    img136.imageshack.us/img136/8620/modem.jpg

    You can copy /paste the links as above and delete http and www to avoid errors.
    Also when you go to Advanced settings in this page you can upload the image as annexure.


    Para two:
    Please type 192.168.1.1/look.html
    to find out FW for this modem.
    Please post data.

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    192.168.1.1/look.html
    i had tried this page but nothing comes up! blank page

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    SNR (Downstream) 20.5 dB
    SNR (Upstream) 19.0 dB
    Line Attentuation(Downstream) 28.0 dB
    Line Attentuation(Upstream) 13.0 dB



    this is my result...please do comment on its improvements and all

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