Thread: fooling bsnl

Hello everyone,

I am going to opt for BSNL UL700 plan tomorow, maybe i will get it in a week fully installed........................this is after i saw a cafe using 6 pc's on the UL700 plan of 256 kbps, and all pc are getting same 256 kbps speed or even more

NOW my question is..... I dont have 6 pc's or say i want to use all the 6 pc's speed on my single laptop, can this be done using a splitter and joiner or anything like this?

is there any hardware available to achieve this? can any hardware fool bsnl that we r using 6 pc's and giv the speed of 6 pc's to a single computer?

this way i can access 2mbps on a single pc

i think there must be a hardware which acts like a splliter and then connects all the 6 lans into 1 and gives full speed to that 1

please let me know if you know any name of such software

please let me know what to put in google search for this

first of all its not possible doing wat u said

and secondly u got it wrong in that cafe, must me something else that u missed like a multiuser plan, or high BW plan

if want 2 mbps then pay 250Rs less u ll get 2 mbps speed then :lol:

I don't think that it will be possible because if we chose 750UL then your bandwidth will be fixed at 256kbps from BSNL server in your account then you can connect many pcs then your total bandwidth will be divide

With a single ISP 's connection, not possible.
With two or more different ISP's connection
to a single computer, speed will not add up.


Load balancing router Google search term.

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If you have a VoIP setup, you can use this device to run both Internet and VoIP ................

Originally Posted by excivicky

Hello everyone,

I am going to opt for BSNL UL700 plan tomorow, maybe i will get it in a week fully installed........................this is after i saw a cafe using 6 pc's on the UL700 plan of 256 kbps, and all pc are getting same 256 kbps speed or even more

NOW my question is..... I dont have 6 pc's or say i want to use all the 6 pc's speed on my single laptop, can this be done using a splitter and joiner or anything like this?

is there any hardware available to achieve this? can any hardware fool bsnl that we r using 6 pc's and giv the speed of 6 pc's to a single computer?

this way i can access 2mbps on a single pc

i think there must be a hardware which acts like a splliter and then connects all the 6 lans into 1 and gives full speed to that 1

please let me know if you know any name of such software

please let me know what to put in google search for this

dun waste ur time googling .. there is no way to FOOL ur isp .. there is no such hardware..
dont have high hopes .. with bsnl unlimited plan the max speed u`ll get is 256 kbps .. end of discussion!!

Vicky it is not possible to connect a 256kbps to 2 computers and get 256kbps speed for each

How do you know that all 6 computers get 256kbps each ?

Try downloading a file in all 6 computers simultaneously .... you ll realize that all 6 computers share the 256kbps ....

when you r browsing in all 6 computers the load is not too much , so all 6 computers will be fast and may give you the feeling that they r 256kbps each ...


Its not technically feasible to do such a thing .... if you want 256kbps speed for each you ll have to apply for BB for each computer seperately or share a 2mbps connection

Originally Posted by essbebe

With a single ISP 's connection, not possible.
With two or more different ISP's connection
to a single computer, speed will not add up.


Load balancing router Google search term.

tats pretty kool man .. thnx for updating us essbebe

bsnl can fool you,but u can never fool bsnl

thats the motto of great bsnl

Originally Posted by internet_guy

bsnl can fool you,but u can never fool bsnl

thats the motto of great bsnl

lol, very true man...

perhaphs we can add, they also make of themselves sometimes. Like some of internet activity is not reocorded in their log.

Originally Posted by newprouser

lol, very true man...

Originally Posted by internet_guy

bsnl can fool you,but u can never fool bsnl

thats the motto of great bsnl

perhaphs we can add, they also make of themselves sometimes. Like some of internet activity is not reocorded in their log.

I do not think that BSNL ever fools people - it is people who choose to believe something and then they are disappointed.

For example, let us take the Home 500 plans. The speed specified is 256kbps to 2 mbps. People believe that they will get 2 mbps and expect 2 mbps. But the web site clearly states that 256 kbps is the minimum guaranteed speed and anything from 256 kbps to 2 mbps will be provided. Naturally when people get less that 2 mbps, they start shouting that BSNL is fooling them.

The second assumption people make is that the promised speed is the real intenet speed. But BSNL clearly states that the speed is within BSNL network.

And, it is not just BSNL that is doing this - all ISP's have mentioned the same fine print in their terms and conditions.

Going back to the main topic.

No. Try whatever, you cannot get double speeds by connecting two computers, triple by three computers, and so on. The internet is a gateway, a pipe, a door with a limited breadth/diameter. Imagine that there is a door connecting two rooms, that allows only 4 people to pass thru in one second. Then it will take 4 people one second to cross the rooms. If there are eight people, it will take 2 seconds, and so on.

Bottomline: Bandwidth will be shared by all concurrent connections.

Eh..... Yea. what just4kix said.

@just4kix

No literally bsnl does not fool people. wat i mean here is that say for example you download from 1 am to 3am , normally the data usage upto 2 am only should be subtracted from free usage but it does'nt work that way with bsnl.

So we are being taken for a ride if we are none the wiser to disconnect at 2 am.

Originally Posted by newprouser

@just4kix

No literally bsnl does not fool people. wat i mean here is that say for example you download from 1 am to 3am , normally the data usage upto 2 am only should be subtracted from free usage but it does'nt work that way with bsnl.

So we are being taken for a ride if we are none the wiser to disconnect at 2 am.

well actually its works wid me, they separate the 2-8 usage
i tested it, this must be server based thing

it happened to me lot of times, but i must tell u the test was in ending section that is from 5 am- 8 : XX am , xx is some times ,10, 15, 7

so i was only charged for the extra mins

Originally Posted by sb21pro

well actually its works wid me, they separate the 2-8 usage
i tested it, this must be server based thing

it happened to me lot of times, but i must tell u the test was in ending section that is from 5 am- 8 : XX am , xx is some times ,10, 15, 7

so i was only charged for the extra mins

luck you ! saves a lot of trouble. For me the billing problem happens both ways.

Like today i did not disconnect the internet after the 8 am and now i find data downloaded untill 8:20 was considered as free usage...

Originally Posted by newprouser

luck you ! saves a lot of trouble. For me the billing problem happens both ways.

Like today i did not disconnect the internet after the 8 am and now i find data downloaded untill 8:20 was considered as free usage...

post a screenshot of ur dataone usage portal for review

thanx for all ur replies, i just saw those 6 pc's using net at 256 speed, but i did not tried to download files on 2 comps at a time, i will do this today and let u know if 256 is shared in all 6 or is separately 256 for all

ty

if any1 uses voip on bsnl bb, let me know yaar
tc

Originally Posted by sharks_me

post a screenshot of ur dataone usage portal for review

Here it is.. btw bsnl some times does not log my internet activity so i have posted todays Du Meter report for comparison (check the duration of connection in the screenshot)

You will find bet. 7:50 am and 8:20 am nothing was logged..

just4kix @ if u didnt have any problems with bsnl broadband ,that doesnt mean that others r not having problem

there r lot of people who had rough times with bsnl including me
and also most of us were wrongly billed for the free usage as we forgot to connect after 2am or forgot to disconnect before 8 am

if 500 plan users r getting around 2mb speed during night ul,then everyone shud get the same speed,but sadly 50% people getting 1.7m to 2mb speed and rest 50 % people r not even getting above 1 mb speeds

whats the use of night ul,if bsnl cant provide decent speeds during that time,? i mean whole day they provide me with 2 mb speed and just during night ul the speed goes lower than 1 mb

we are all paying the same amt of money,why different speeds for different customers

and dont forget the contention ratio,50:1

they r just abusing the dsl technology

that is less servers more new connection

i am using bsnl broadband for more than 2 1/2 years , i think this year was pathetic ,from service to customer care

yaar from which website youy saw ur dataone usage?? I saw at dataone.in but the screen which is different from urs.

Originally Posted by sandeep1143

yaar from which website youy saw ur dataone usage?? I saw at dataone.in but the screen which is different from urs.

thats coz u hav a user@dataone.in id and i have @bsnl.in id..

Originally Posted by internet_guy

just4kix @ if u didnt have any problems with bsnl broadband ,that doesnt mean that others r not having problem

there r lot of people who had rough times with bsnl including me
and also most of us were wrongly billed for the free usage as we forgot to connect after 2am or forgot to disconnect before 8 am

It is a well known fact that modem must be restarted at 2 AM and again at 8 AM to get free usage. BSNL says that this is required to log a new IP address so that regular billing can be separated from free night usage. Follow the method properly and you will never get billed for overusage. BB billing is controlled from Banglore NOC and is uniform for everyone. The usage details are then sent to local circles for billing. The portal is available to check and monitor usage. If there is a discrepancy, it should be pointed out immediately.

Admittedly BSNL has to improve a lot on customer care.

Originally Posted by internet_guy

if 500 plan users r getting around 2mb speed during night ul,then everyone shud get the same speed,but sadly 50% people getting 1.7m to 2mb speed and rest 50 % people r not even getting above 1 mb speeds

whats the use of night ul,if bsnl cant provide decent speeds during that time,? i mean whole day they provide me with 2 mb speed and just during night ul the speed goes lower than 1 mb

we are all paying the same amt of money,why different speeds for different customers

BSNL has never promised a constant 2 mbps speed. The speed is clearly marked as 256 kbps to 2 mbps. So if you are getting more than 256 kbps, you have no case for complaint. Yes. This sucks big time. But that is why they call it fine print clauses.

Originally Posted by internet_guy

and dont forget the contention ratio,50:1

they r just abusing the dsl technology

that is less servers more new connection

i am using bsnl broadband for more than 2 1/2 years , i think this year was pathetic ,from service to customer care

Contention ratio makes it possible to offer BB at cheaper prices. If the contention rati is reduced to 25:1 and charges doubled, you will get more minimum speed but you will end up paying much more also.

I am not a BSNL spokesperson but let me put the argument from BSNL perspective:

a) It is expected that the user's login pattern is uniform across 24 hours so that BSNL can provide maximum speed at all times.
b) If 90% of the users login during 2 AM to 8 AM, BSNL cannot guarantee max speed. It can gurantee minimum speed.
c) Why do 90% users have to login between 2 AM and 8 AM only? :sneaky2:

Originally Posted by internet_guy

bsnl can fool you,but u can never fool bsnl

thats the motto of great bsnl

u r wrong dear we both can fool each other unk:

Originally Posted by lightgreen49

u r wrong dear we both can fool each other unk:

Lets have your version of story too.....how can we......

Dude...you might have been really mistake there try downloading stuffs on all the three comps using some download manager like Flashget or IDM....Simultaniously...

The you will identify that whether all the three comps are getting the speeds of the other of 256 kBPS...aS YOU have specified in the post...

Dude its very difficult to foo, the BSNL peoples though they will fool you...So stop expecting too much from them...

Be happy with all they are providing ...As they provide it good thats why they are the best ISP in India accotding to PCWorld rating you see...

Anyways best of luck to you....unk:

Originally Posted by excivicky

Hello everyone,

I am going to opt for BSNL UL700 plan tomorow, maybe i will get it in a week fully installed........................this is after i saw a cafe using 6 pc's on the UL700 plan of 256 kbps, and all pc are getting same 256 kbps speed or even more

NOW my question is..... I dont have 6 pc's or say i want to use all the 6 pc's speed on my single laptop, can this be done using a splitter and joiner or anything like this?

is there any hardware available to achieve this? can any hardware fool bsnl that we r using 6 pc's and giv the speed of 6 pc's to a single computer?

this way i can access 2mbps on a single pc

i think there must be a hardware which acts like a splliter and then connects all the 6 lans into 1 and gives full speed to that 1

please let me know if you know any name of such software

please let me know what to put in google search for this

Originally Posted by just4kix

It is a well known fact that modem must be restarted at 2 AM and again at 8 AM to get free usage. BSNL says that this is required to log a new IP address so that regular billing can be separated from free night usage.

I have tested it in multiple ways in the last two months, and my findings are that at least for the newer 117 users on PPPoE mode, the system verifies every 30 min whether its chargeable or free preriod.
So if I log in at say 12.58, and continue till 3.15, my usage is broken into two parts, 12.58-2.28 chargeable, 2.28-3.15 free. if I log in at 12.35 and continue till 3.15 then it would be 12.35-2.05 chargeable and 2.05-3.15 free. Similarly if I log in at 7.48 and continue till 9.55 I get 7.48-8.18 free and 8.18-9.55 chargeable.

May be they have employed some new software or something.