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    Hi friends ..
    Today I connected at 5:00 AM and started the torrent and overslept till 8:25 AM what will be the state of my bill ... i think my data transfer would be around 4 GB .... I am not even able to check my data usage at data.bsnl.in ... its giving some error (try again some time or contact your system admin)
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    I don't think you have any problem for that from personal experience i can say may be no usage charge will be taken (if you connect at 3AM and disconnect at 8:25 AM) or if any usage is applied then it just for 15-20min extra time usage.But several times BSNL charge for usage after 8:30AM but one think must be remember that log in session must not exceed 6 hour continuously

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    Usually u will be charged oly for data d/l after 8 am, but this really seems vary from region to region. Personally I have never been charged for d/l's in NL if i din't disconect , ever.

    For eg ,once i was not charged untill after 8:20 but tis time varies .. check my screenshot here..
    http://www.indiabroadband.net/bsnl-b...html#post78198


    It will take sometime, maybe a more few hours before ur usage status is updated in bsnl portal.

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    It has been my eperience that downloads till 8:20 am or 8:25 am are not charged. But don't bet on this.

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    yes, agreed, the cases are like this

    somtimes they charge from 8:00 am
    some times after 8:20 am

    but this differs in aeas

    so dont worry u ll probably be charged for 25 min at max

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    yes... for me it happens so frequently... i sleep late around 1 then i fail to get up around 2:15... i get up at 3 or 4 start downloading.. n sleep ,,,,morning i dont even realize its 8.. i get up at 8:20 or 8:30.. close the session.. but one thing i have noticed.., i have never been charged...



    n abt your account error on bbservice.bsnl.in that out of 30 days in month... i keep getting errors n page not displayed.. n something like tht almost 15 days or more..

    previously i was so much getting tensed.. thinking oh my god.. what will happen if they will charge me full night download n all ... they will be generating biggggggggg bill for me so getting error n all on their site ...:blushing::blushing::blushing: but now i realised.. nothing happes..:hammer::hammer: now in month i think i dont even check my usage for 8 to 9 times also....

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    I use a software called Shutter. It disconnects my connection and shuts downs computer automatically daily at 7:50. It's got lot of other feature too. Never faced any problem yet.

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    archer r u using wifi? poppe mode? if yes... give me link for shutter..

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    No. Good old UT300R2U. But it doesn't matter as long as you are using dialer to connect. Shutter will disconnect it automatically. I tested it many times before using. I don't know if it will work in PPPOE mode.
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    if ur using modem in dial-up (aka bridge mode) u can simply use rasdial.exe with /DISCONNECT parameter to disconnect net. Its inbuilt within win xp.

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    Thanks a lot all you have been very prompt in replying me ...thanks a lot ...
    Now I can relax and feel that I wont be charged ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by newprouser View Post
    if ur using modem in dial-up (aka bridge mode) u can simply use rasdial.exe with /DISCONNECT parameter to disconnect net. Its inbuilt within win xp.
    yeah... I prefer using rasdial too... along with wakeuponstandby s/w for automating the standby process of win xp!

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsmemad View Post
    yeah... I prefer using rasdial too... along with wakeuponstandby s/w for automating the standby process of win xp!
    I used to use wakeuponstandby too.. but switched to scheduler method coz
    1. No need to set it everyday (reality is i'm very lazy)
    2. I always forget to it to 2 AM (by default its in PM)

    But still its useful when hibernation gives some problems - the force option resolves it.

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    I would have thought it is simple to disconnect the internet connection or to put system on standby/hibernate or to shut-down Windows at a pre-determined time using Windows OS facilities, but people have been using third-party programs. So, I thought why not check on internet and here is what I found:

    To shutdown or hibernate, you can add a scheduled task which runs a batch/cmd file with the command shutdown in it. For a description of the command, see Shutdown - Shutdown the computer. Also see PsShutdown - Shutdown or reboot a computer for shutdown without poweroff.

    To connect/disconnect your dial-up connection, and in general because it is a good idea to use a proxy server, installation of a software like EzProxy might be a good idea. However, using Windows, you can disconnect your dial-up connection using rasdial with /disconnect switch - see Rasdial - Dial Up Networking to learn about this command; as stated earlier, put the command in a .bat file or a .cmd file and schedule it using the Control Panel|Scheduled Tasks facility in Windows.

    Have a look at Terminate your dial-up / PPPoE connection at a specified time using Task Scheduler - it also has a hyperlink on the bottom of the page about shutting down/restarting in a scheduled manner.

    Maybe it is simpler to install a third-party application, but I would prefer the simple commands mentioned above (in a batch script, scheduled using Scheduled Tasks control panel applet) unless the application is clean (virus/trojan/spyware/ad free) and installs/runs without adding anything to the system registry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smnesmwhr View Post
    I would have thought it is simple to disconnect the internet connection or to put system on standby/hibernate or to shut-down Windows at a pre-determined time using Windows OS facilities, but people have been using third-party programs. So, I thought why not check on internet and here is what I found:

    To shutdown or hibernate, you can add a scheduled task which runs a batch/cmd file with the command shutdown in it. For a description of the command, see Shutdown - Shutdown the computer. Also see PsShutdown - Shutdown or reboot a computer for shutdown without poweroff.

    To connect/disconnect your dial-up connection, and in general because it is a good idea to use a proxy server, installation of a software like EzProxy might be a good idea. However, using Windows, you can disconnect your dial-up connection using rasdial with /disconnect switch - see Rasdial - Dial Up Networking to learn about this command; as stated earlier, put the command in a .bat file or a .cmd file and schedule it using the Control Panel|Scheduled Tasks facility in Windows.

    Have a look at Terminate your dial-up / PPPoE connection at a specified time using Task Scheduler - it also has a hyperlink on the bottom of the page about shutting down/restarting in a scheduled manner.

    Maybe it is simpler to install a third-party application, but I would prefer the simple commands mentioned above (in a batch script, scheduled using Scheduled Tasks control panel applet) unless the application is clean (virus/trojan/spyware/ad free) and installs/runs without adding anything to the system registry.
    You are right in suggesting that it is more convinient to use scheduler method, its jus that some ppl find it convinient to use to appz if they are new to the concept.

    But why would you drag in the concept of using proxies with connecting/disconnecting mechanism, i mean i don't see it as being related.

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    @ smnesmwhr

    U didn't get the whole point buddy... Problem is that I have to wake my computer from standby mode after 2 am... So that I can sleep at 11 pm... ur suggested methods are good for shutting down and rebooting the computer...

    Correct me if I'm wrong... But I guess therez no way yet to wake the laptop from standby mode using windows facilities... I use wakeuponstandby cuz it does what the name suggests!

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsmemad View Post
    @ smnesmwhrCorrect me if I'm wrong... But I guess therez no way yet to wake the laptop from standby mode using windows facilities... I use wakeuponstandby cuz it does what the name suggests!
    Is the scheduler method not working with laptops, I didn't know tat .

    Even other wise most of the BIOS's allow you to wake your computer

    All you hav to do is switch on the particular setting and specify the Day,hrs:min:sec ...

    And if u want it to start everyday, set day as 0.

    If neccesary you can set your laptop to hibernate rather than standby it will save more power , tho it utilizes more hdd space

    Try it out

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    Quote Originally Posted by prav View Post
    Hi friends ..
    Today I connected at 5:00 AM and started the torrent and overslept till 8:25 AM ........................................ i think my data transfer would be around 4 GB ....


    Plan Details:
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    Any one else faced such problem do let me know

    I dont think its possible to download 4gb within 3:25 hours in a 2mbit connection. At max u downloaded/uploaded 2.8 GB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evander Leopold View Post
    I dont think its possible to download 4gb within 3:25 hours in a 2mbit connection. At max u downloaded/uploaded 2.8 GB.
    Nice catch and good point Evander.

    @others, Why do people argue on automatic scheduling and insist on this method is good and/or that method is good? All methods are good that work for the owner. There are similar threads and topics on best browser, best AV, best firewall, best this, best that, etc., etc.

    There is no such thing as best method, best software, best code, etc. Everything is relative. To illustrate this point, I shall endeavour to explain the philosophy behind quality.

    We had a poster in our office. The poster had two pictures.

    On the left side, there was a picture of lady from waist down to legs carrying her shopping in a plastic bag from the local supermarket.

    On the right right side, there was a picture of an executive, again from waist down to legs. The man is apparently dressed in a suite and is carrying an expensive leather briefcase.

    The title below the two pictures was: Both of these bags are quality bags.

    You cannot use a plastic carry bag to carry your executive papers to work. And you cannot use your expensive leather briefcase to carry vegetables, eggs, bread, etc. Well, you can. But you will look very silly of course.

    Remember: QUALITY MEANS CONFORMANCE TO REQUIREMENTS.
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    What u r saying is right... but here argument/reasoning is a way to share our knowledge with each other... Its human tendency to reason... This way we come to know if there are other better ways/products than what we are currently using...

    But yes, when somebody tries to impose her/himself on others.. And doesn't know how to back down... even if knowing that what the other person is saying can be true...That is wrong!

    Quote Originally Posted by newprouser View Post
    Is the scheduler method not working with laptops, I didn't know tat .

    Even other wise most of the BIOS's allow you to wake your computer

    All you hav to do is switch on the particular setting and specify the Day,hrs:min:sec ...

    And if u want it to start everyday, set day as 0.

    If neccesary you can set your laptop to hibernate rather than standby it will save more power , tho it utilizes more hdd space

    Try it out
    I use scheduler for rasdial...

    But how can it be used to wake up a computer from standby mode? It doesn't work if I check the option "wake the computer to run this task" for rasdial's connect.bat file I've created...

    I don't think therez any option in BIOS either... neway, I'll check!

    Well, I'm more comfortable with standby...
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    @itsmemad

    completely agree with your opinion...

    In my intel bios , the option is ava under power option. First the "wake up from S5 state" option must be enabled, then u can set the time.
    Last edited by newprouser; 12-22-08 at 09:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archer View Post
    No. Good old UT300R2U. But it doesn't matter as long as you are using dialer to connect. Shutter will disconnect it automatically. I tested it many times before using. I don't know if it will work in PPPOE mode.
    okey.. but mine is poppe mode so cant use dialer system.. its like turning on wifi.. it automatically connects my system...:2guns:

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    Can't you change to bridge mode ? Or what about the solution the others suggested.

    Anyway here is the link to the software. Give it a try. Maybe it will work.

    Shutter: Download link

    Shutter: Screenshots

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    well.. i wanna change to bridge mode.. but dont know how... waiting for suggestion...

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    Try the software then. I didn't test it in pppoe mode.

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