Thread: war on piracy

Originally Posted by just4kix

I am not going to buy new OS just because a new version is launched. If your had been in the software field as long as I have been, you will quickly realize that new software brings tons of bugs with them.

And when it comes to MS products, they tend to mess up things quite a bit just like they did with Vista, Office 2007, etc. And sometimes, new versions require much more powerful hardware.

Golden rule: Never fix things that aren't broken.

yah dude windows vista disappointed me so much my vista pc eats dirt all the time still 7 yr old win xp rocks

Originally Posted by saurav_kataruka

to be honest i have been really lazy to try my hands on linux seriously ... it would be like starting from the scratch ... searching for every thing on the net which i already have sorted out very well on my windows ... ...

Well it all depends upon individual tastes. I was forced to use linux while being in Abudhabi. Buy your own software or use linux. That is the policy over there. And see, linux isnt all that tough like proclaimed by many. Its just people are not ready to try their hands on linux.

Support FOSS, for they are the future !!

according to the shop owner in my state u can get a vista ultimate for 500rs.thats what he said.u can get crysis or farcry 2 for 300rs.a few years ago i thought these things were original.but now i know that every dvd shop and computer shop sells pirated stuff.they download a 6 gb game and put it on 2 dvd which cost 20rs.then sell it for rs300.

Originally Posted by iamnew

according to the shop owner in my state u can get a vista ultimate for 500rs.thats what he said.u can get crysis or farcry 2 for 300rs.a few years ago i thought these things were original.but now i know that every dvd shop and computer shop sells pirated stuff.they download a 6 gb game and put it on 2 dvd which cost 20rs.then sell it for rs300.

yah dude come to delhi go to nehru place,palika bazar etc u will find lots of small shops selling pirated movies,sw, songs etc there is no end to it.

Originally Posted by iamnew

according to the shop owner in my state u can get a vista ultimate for 500rs.thats what he said.u can get crysis or farcry 2 for 300rs.a few years ago i thought these things were original.but now i know that every dvd shop and computer shop sells pirated stuff.they download a 6 gb game and put it on 2 dvd which cost 20rs.then sell it for rs300.

Just now noticed that u are from Kerala.

That is piracy at its best

see thing is most of the hollywood movies, video games software are not available in india ,if they r available they r too costly to buy it

so people use internet via torrents to get to these stuff

i am not encouraging it,but its time to undertsand these problems

price reduction ,availbilty of the product,may cut down the piracy rate

Originally Posted by iamnew

according to the shop owner in my state u can get a vista ultimate for 500rs.thats what he said.u can get crysis or farcry 2 for 300rs.a few years ago i thought these things were original.but now i know that every dvd shop and computer shop sells pirated stuff.they download a 6 gb game and put it on 2 dvd which cost 20rs.then sell it for rs300.

ha ha ha .. :lol: ... typical cyber cafe business.... i remember the days when cd-writers were slowly becoming cheaper in india ... not many people used to have it ... it was one of the most profitable assets at that time ... even i earned some bucks using it ... the cyber cafes and media libraries used to charge about Rs. 100-150 for burning a CD ...

Originally Posted by internet_guy

price reduction ,availbilty of the product,may cut down the piracy rate

Didnt Moser Baer start something like that, selling films at low prices to ward off piracy?

but they r selling only selected movie not all,i bought fiza dvd of mosaer baer,the sound was horrible ,no 5.1 ,it was just stero

Originally Posted by internet_guy

but they r selling only selected movie not all,i bought fiza dvd of mosaer baer,the sound was horrible ,no 5.1 ,it was just stero

Almost all Hindi movies that are now available on DVD are priced from Rs. 45/- to Rs. 99/-. Moser Baer started the trend with low cost DVDs/VCDs. The others such as Shemaroo, Bombino, etc. have followed suit.

The problem is only with English movie DVDs that are still Rs. 500+.

Originally Posted by internet_guy

see thing is most of the hollywood movies, video games software are not available in india ,if they r available they r too costly to buy it

so people use internet via torrents to get to these stuff

i am not encouraging it,but its time to undertsand these problems

price reduction ,availbilty of the product,may cut down the piracy rate

Don't they have dvd libraries/shops in your area? why not rent the
originals and watch them? If you really like it then buy the dvd.

-F

i agree with english movies , if a english movie dvd is 500+ ,then think abt blue ray , it will cost some 2000+ if its introduce in india

LOL. I will wonder when Blu-Ray will come to India. DVDs arrived (in real sense) only a couple of years ago.

I first saw a DVD in USA in 1998. That time they were retailing around $25 + which is similar to what Blu-Ray discs are being priced right now. DVD players were intially priced at $500+ and by 2001 they had dropped to $100 to $200. Blu-Ray players were initially retailing for $1000 and now they are $200 to $300 range.

So my guess is that in a couple of years, Blu-Ray prices will drop by at least $10 ($19.99 from $29.99). It is all about demand and supply. When more people buy BD players, the demand for disc will rise significantly and cost per disc will be reduced because of volume sales. I expect that this will happen by end of 2009.

Originally Posted by farce

Don't they have dvd libraries/shops in your area? why not rent the
originals and watch them? If you really like it then buy the dvd.

-F

They usually don't have good quality disc's

Originally Posted by just4kix

So my guess is that in a couple of years, Blu-Ray prices will drop by at least $10 ($19.99 from $29.99). It is all about demand and supply. When more people buy BD players, the demand for disc will rise significantly and cost per disc will be reduced because of volume sales. I expect that this will happen by end of 2009.

Still lightscribe or DL dvd's haven't become mainstream in India(not movie dvd, blank media), I wonder even if we get Blue ray, media is gonna be a problem except ofcourse when its used only for movies and the like.

I somehow think that blank media may not become extremely popular - now that 1 TB+ HDDs are available at affordable prices. They will sell but not in the same volume as blank CDs did.

Yea, true cost/Gb of HDD have become lower, but still higher than DVD media.

I'd really love to be able to store 25 gb in a sub 20 rs media

a bit offtopic..

DL blank DVDs still cost almost about Rs.300 per piece in india. i wonder how the DL pirated movie DVDs (containing 3-4 HQ movies i.e. more than 4.37 gb i.e. DL) are sold for 70-80 bucks? i always wanted to clear this point. can anyone explain this?

^^^ I don't think the high cost of those media are justified... The marketers are just taking advantage of the situation to charge us more, but in reality it will cost them a fraction of the original cost.

Originally Posted by saurav_kataruka

a bit offtopic..

DL blank DVDs still cost almost about Rs.300 per piece in india. i wonder how the DL pirated movie DVDs (containing 3-4 HQ movies i.e. more than 4.37 gb i.e. DL) are sold for 70-80 bucks? i always wanted to clear this point. can anyone explain this?

Saurav,

Commercial DVDs (including pirated ones) are never burnt. They are pressed.

Most of these pirated DVDs originate from factories in China, Malayasia, etc. A master is created and the duplicating machines take over. The duplicating machines use a plain transparent plastic disc. On the bottom side, the silver film is directly pressed and on the top side the cover is pressed.

For blank media, the similar process is used, except that instead of the written film, a writeable film is pressed.

thanks a lot j4k for the info. but this raised one more question in my mind. if DL pirated dvds can be produced at such low costs, why are no chinese blank media brands doing the same by introducing low price DL blank DVDs? it would instantly be a success. i mean if these pirated DL dvds are created and burnt and then sold for 70-80 bucks in india keeping some margin for profit - then why is the rate of DL blank media almost 5 times these rates?

Originally Posted by saurav_kataruka

thanks a lot j4k for the info. but this raised one more question in my mind. if DL pirated dvds can be produced at such low costs, why are no chinese blank media brands doing the same by introducing low price DL blank DVDs? it would instantly be a success. i mean if these pirated DL dvds are created and burnt and then sold for 70-80 bucks in india keeping some margin for profit - then why is the rate of DL blank media almost 5 times these rates?

Only in India they are selling for high price. I purchased a box of 25 DVD-D/L (Memorex) for $35. This translates to little less than Rs. 70 per disk.

And that was in 2007. Prices must have come down since then.

Originally Posted by saurav_kataruka

a bit offtopic..

DL blank DVDs still cost almost about Rs.300 per piece in india. i wonder how the DL pirated movie DVDs

Are you sure about the pricing? I have bought a 5 pack MoserBaer DL DVDs (8.4Gb) for 65/- per DVD with a proper bill. It used to be ~85/- per DVD a year ago.

Originally Posted by 18lama

Are you sure about the pricing? I have bought a 5 pack MoserBaer DL DVDs (8.4Gb) for 65/- per DVD with a proper bill. It used to be ~85/- per DVD a year ago.

what are you talking off ... are you sure it was DL ?

check out the price of moserbaer DL DVDs (8.5 gb) - 5 pack here:

Click Here

Whoa...wait a minute before passing judgements.

I know the difference between a regular blank dvd and a DL blank DVD. I have been using them for nearly 2 years now. Infact I use them to burn large iso images.

and speaking of regular blank DVDs I get a 50 pack for 9/- a piece.

What part of the world are you living in?

Originally Posted by 18lama

Whoa...wait a minute before passing judgements.

I know the difference between a regular blank dvd and a DL blank DVD. I have been using them for nearly 2 years now. Infact I use them to burn large iso images.

and speaking of regular blank DVDs I get a 50 pack for 9/- a piece.

What part of the world are you living in?

Where did you get the Blank DL DVD moserbaer 5 pack for Rs.65/- ??

I am from Kolkata, India. Did you check the link i provided?

I usually get a 50 pack SL Blank Dvd pack of Lasertras for about Rs.7.50 - Rs.8 per DVD ...