Thread: Configuring DSL 502T for Remote Desktop

Hi
Have been searching a solution for my problem all over the net for almost a mnth everyday....hope somebody could help me out
Have attached a PDF file of my configuration and diagram.
I have a DSL 502T router which has one ethernet port conn. to PC1 and one USB port conn. to PC2 so can access internet independently on both PCs.
Home Plan 500C..hence no static ip...only dynamic ip.

(1.)Wanted to be able to remote desktop from PC2 to PC1 via internet...not thru LAN (as i can remote desktop thru LAN...that is easy)
(2.)Both PCs have Win XP Pro, both have "Allow to connect remotely to this computer"
(3.)Router external IP is DYNAMIC IP 69.96.3.143 which keeps changing...have account in DYNDNS and have installed DNS Update Client and have hostname remotedesktop.dyndns.biz
(4.)Have port forwarded port 33XX on router for remote desktop application for the IP address of PC1 ie. 192.168.1.6
(5.)Also just for info both PC1 & PC2 are connected via crossover cable
(6.)Outpost Firewall on both PCs is enabled....but dont think problm with Outpost Firewall as i have even disabled it to see if i could connect...no luck.

BROADBAND PC 1
STATIC IP : 192.168.1.6
SUBNET : 255.255.255.0
DEFAULT GATEWAY : 192.168.1.1
PREFERRED DNS : 215.207.249.198
ALTERNATE DNS : 215.207.259.188

BROADBAND PC 2
STATIC IP : 192.168.1.7
SUBNET : 255.255.255.0
DEFAULT GATEWAY: 192.168.1.1
PREFERRED DNS : 215.207.249.198
ALTERNATE DNS : 215.207.259.188

Basically what i m tryg to do is send signal from remote desktop on PC2 --->Network adapter of PC2 (192.168.1.7)---->Through the router(Default Gateway:192.168.1.1) --->DYNDNS Server(website)(having hostname which is linked to my dynamic IP)---> Back to my router external IP(ie dynamic IP ie. 69.96.3.143)--->Through the router(Internal IP ie. Default Gateway:192.168.1.1) ---> Since router is port forwarded(remote desktop port 33XX) for PC1 the router should send signal to PC1 Network Adapter (192.168.1.6)---> Remote desktop software on PC1.
Are there some settings on DSL 502T router which i have to carry out.
After all this still no connection.....what am i doing wrong.....please any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanxs in advance.
Pls check pdf file for configuration settings and diagram

There is no need to try all this. Simply use a program called Team Viewer. You can remotely control and even reboot a computer. Please go through

Remotely Control Any Desktop

why would you want to do that when you have LAN? your wasting bandwidth.. anyways logmein is another solution

Hi
I have used Teamviewer (the unattended version)...but lately had been having some problem, so i opened a free account of LogMeIn (no file transfer possible) and via webrowser have accessed my PC remotely and than started Teamviewer QS, obtained the id and password and was able to carry out file transfer. So using a combination of both LogMeIn and Teamviewer was able to achieve the result.
But would like to get the remote desktop working, as using programs like LogMeIn and Teamviewer one has to use "their web servers", and when it is possible to avoid using external webservers (Teamviewer and LogMeIn), hence was hoping somebody could help me out with the remote desktop.

Also i am using PC1 to remotely access PC2 bcos i want to test my remote desktop capabilities (settings)....otherwise i will have to make trips everytime till i figure out the problem to the internet cafe to check if this remote access is working.
For transfering files i m using LAN....but what i need is to check if this remote desktop really will work when i travel abroad....i need to be sure.....so if somebody could help me out it would be gr8.....

@fms007
1.

Both PCs have Win XP Pro, both have "Allow to connect remotely to this computer"

2. Using Teamviewer and LogMeIn applications.

3. Your ISP Is BSNL ?

4.. From where you obtained the DNS shown in post No.1 ?

PREFERRED DNS : 215.207.249.198
ALTERNATE DNS : 215.207.259.188
from:
http://www.indiabroadband.net/attach...ess-config.pdf

as using programs like LogMeIn and Teamviewer one has to use "their web servers",

i have said it before & i will say it again---unless your computer has something which will change the fate of the world no one cares or if you are doing something seriously on the opposite side of law:001_tongue: there is no need to be paranoid about privacy.

i dont know why the general public wants to switch on two static ips..:lol:

as mentioned earlier ,logmein is real safe , infact much better than you hosting a remote desktop service..

& just for a thought XP uses a particular port for remote desktop & it is 3889.you have to port forward this port to 192.168.1.6.also enable port forward for both udp & tcp for this port in the rule.you can try this too:
http://www.lanoninternet.com/

I think by using Telnet, we can remotely access one's computer. My friend used to access his uncle's laptop from some 200 KM distance.

You can also use Yuuguu if Team viewer and Logmein is giving problems.

Yuuguu - A simple, secure, cost effective business service for instant messaging, screen sharing and web conferencing

(1.)Thnxs will give a try to Yuuguu.....has interesting features
(2.)I had forwarded port 3389 for remote desktop for ip 192.168.1.6...still no luck

According to me You should must try this..
Go on buddy..
because by try new things you are just gaining knowledge.
But yeah remember if you are not sure whether u can do it or not...
Then Please recommend anyone...

but really there is no need to do this..
What is the use of having two static IP`s when they both work equal to the single static IP.

Originally Posted by mail2sc

i dont know why the general public wants to switch on two static ips..:lol:

Originally Posted by shariq27

What is the use of having two static IP`s when they both work equal to the single static IP.

Pls correct me if i m wrong....but needed to get this sorted out....about 2 internal static ips (ie one internal static ip for one PC and one internal static ip for another PC). My external router ip is dynamic.
Right now i have 2 PCs connected to one modem but accessing the internet separately
On PC1 i have utorrent for which i have port forwarded 53123....if i dont assign a static internal ip for this PC1...how am i supposed to tell the modem that utorrent which is on PC1 is tryg to gain access . Meaning the modem should know which is the PC which is requesting permission to access port 53123

Now on PC2 i have another program installed..let us say radmin or some other program which also needs portforwarding....and this program is installed only on PC2 having port 54333 assigned for this program...say radmin....how will the modem know that PC2 is requesting permission to access port 54333

In the modem settings if i want to portforward a certain program from a specific PC than i have to mention which PC is requesting permission for that port...that way it will assign a specific port only for a specific PC for a specific program.
In DSL 502T there is something called LAN Clients settings...and if i dont add the static IPs for each if the PCs which i want to to port forward than i cannot use portforwarding for a specific program for a specific port for a specific PC.

The same applies to remote desktop. If i want to access remote desktop via internet(ie from outside my network) and let us say i want some files which are on PC1 or i want some files which are on PC2....than the only way i can access a specific PC is if they have static internal IP...otherwise the modem will not be able to know which is the PC i want to access

So i portforward 3390 thru my router for static internal IP of PC1 (also made changes in the registry settings for port 3390 bcos default by windows is 3389)
And i portforward 3391 thru my router for static internal IP of PC2
That way the router knows exactly which is the PC which i am tryg to access using remote desktop...as when i put the dynamic IP into the remote client userbox i will also add the port no for the specific PC...meaning if i want to access PC1 from outside via internet than i will put IP address 69.96.3.123:3390 so the modem knows i want to access PC1.
I have found this out thru some networking sites.

Hope this clarifies why i have 2 static INTERNAL ips assigned for both my PCs separately.

If what i m sayg about the 2static INTERNAL ips isnt correct i m open to ideas.
If u reach to the end of this post than THNXS for the patience and time taken in reading this post.

i will put IP address 69.96.3.123:3390 so the modem knows i want to access PC1

Is this one of the static IP's allotted to you ?

69.96.3.123 US UNITED STATES NEW JERSEY LIVINGSTON CELLCO PARTNERSHIP DBA VERIZON WIRELESS

Confirm you are using a BSNL connection .

Also your choice of DNS.

215.207.249.198
ALTERNATE DNS : 215.207.259.188

Hi essbebe
Really sorry didnt reply to ur ealier post
Nope this is not a static ip....as i have a BSNL conn and since it is a home plan i have a dynamic ip not a static one
My static ips are the ones which are internally assigned for each PC for the reason i mentioned above.
The dynamic ip i mentioned "69.96.3.123:3390" was just for the sake of an example. That is not the one i am assigned by BSNL. I just used that ip just to clarify my point.
Same goes for the DNS server nos....also just gave them as examples...as most of us who have bsnl must be having dns nos i think so as 218. . .

What is your tariff plan /
Did BSNL allot you a Static IP?

Hi
No BSNL has not assigned me a static ip.....i have a dynamic ip as i have a home plan
The static ips which i m talkg about are ips which i have manually configured for my network adapter cards for the reasons which i mentioned ealier.

@essbebe,fms007 has no external/real static ip.he only has 2 internal static LAN ip's.

@fms007,have you tried pinging the forwarded port on computer from outside?if no then try it & post the result.it will help in pinpointing error.

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feedback please.

@essbebe,he already has this option.his problem is that for some reason connection is not being made between 2 PC's using net.once a connection is made he can use radmin,windows remote desktop or whatever he wants.

PROBLEM UPDATE

[/connection is not being made between 2 PC's using net

@fm007 Please confirm. You used /tried Radmin.
Ignore all below please
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@whitestar_999

@essbebe,he already has this option

Please quote the Post No. from where you got the info, that thread starter is using/used RADMIN.
Did I miss it ?

@essbebe,fms007 has no external/real static ip.he only has 2 internal static LAN ip's.

Yes I myself converted his PDF file to a JPG
and posted in this thread for reference. and noted it.
192.168.1.7 etc are "Pseudo STATIC" IP addresses.

Dynamic IP and STATIC IP are usually meant/understood to be allotted by the ISPs.
and as you can see @fm007 created
lot of confusion by
using fancy DNS Static IP addresses ! ( Privacy concern !)

Any way in a long thread, members tend to go by the recent posts and all sorts of info is posted/repeated .

See reference to DYDNS also in his post/s.
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Let us wait for @fms007 feedback, before the thread goes "off tangent"

@FMS007 Feedback please.

Hi
Yes with long thread confusion does set in....
My intentions were not to create any confusion, which if i have...i m really sorry....but as u see i have dynamic ip given by the ISP

According to Post #1 ...point no (3.)...i have mentioned that the router external ip (which means the ip given by the ISP) is dynamic

(3.)Router external IP is DYNAMIC IP 69.96.3.143 which keeps changing...have account in DYNDNS and have installed DNS Update Client and have hostname remotedesktop.dyndns.biz

Also Post #1 specifies that

BROADBAND PC 1
STATIC IP : 192.168.1.6
SUBNET : 255.255.255.0
DEFAULT GATEWAY : 192.168.1.1

Which means that these are static internal ips "configured" in the network adapter card

According to Post #13 it is clearly specified that

Pls correct me if i m wrong....but needed to get this sorted out....about 2 internal static ips (ie one internal static ip for one PC and one internal static ip for another PC). My external router ip is dynamic.
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Hope this clarifies why i have 2 static INTERNAL ips assigned for both my PCs separately.

If one sees the top of my pdf attachment(or jpeg) on Post#1....one can clearly see that it is mentioned as dynamic ip
And using pseudo DNS server names or even pseudo dynamic ip addresses ....it is better to be prudent than to be otherwise.
Here on this site we all are hon'ble...but i can guarantee you that given the right type of info it is very much possible to carry out illegal activities.
And it really doesnt matter what the dynamic ip nos are whether they are 69.96.3.143 or whether they are 76.67.5.230 as they will keep changing
OR
for that matter what the "fancy" DNS server nos are , whether they are 215.207.249.198 or if they are 218. . . .
None of these ips are really relevant to solve the issue at hand...as the problem at hand is that i m not able to make a connection between two PCs using net.
Yes, I have tried Famatech Radmin 3.3 about 2 weeks back and would very much like to use that program again....but as you see none of the programs really work (RDP, radmin, Anyplace control...etc a whole bunch of these) bcos all these programs one has to provide and carryout correctly ip settings,
the only ones which really work is Teamviewer as it doesnt use ip atleast from the user point of view (hence not much ip settings to be done), but it gives a computer id which solves the full problem and no need to port forward neither thru the router nor thru the firewall. Also LogMeIn Free webrowser works.
It is for this same reason that i have not tried any third party remote access programs bcos once i can figure out how to access remotely using an inbuilt tool of windows(RDP) it will solve all my problems to use programs like Anyplace Control, Radmin etc where ip congig settings is a must.
I am tryg some options to get RDP working...and will get back as soon as i figure out a solution or not.

Till now tried a lot of solutions but there is no result

Finally reached a conclusion....the reason why i cant access from within the LAN another LAN computer using WANIP is bcos my Dlink DSL 502T modem doesnt do loopback, so the only way i can check if my remote desktop is working(configured properly) would be to try and access the LAN PC from outside the LAN....ie from a internet cafe using WANIP : port

For those who might be interested

Note 3: Please be aware that from inside your LAN you will not be able to access your server using its public IP address or name. On your LAN you will need to use its local IP address instead (10.1.1.99).

dlink.com.au/tech/default.asp?model=DSL-502T&TemplateId=35800

Wish there was a way by which i could get DSL 502T to do a loopback.....

Hi
Finally managed to resolve this issue....today was able to make a remote access connection via RDP from internet cafe computer to my home PC.
Using hostname (hostname.dyndns.biz) which i have from the dyndns free account
ie. hostname.dyndns.biz:54120.....this is what one has to put while logging from rdp client into remote PC
or one can use
dynamic ip:54120.....ie. 59.xx.x.xxx: 54120
It is very important to put the port no. after the hostname or after the dynamic ip, otherwise it will not remote connect.

Also used teamviewer and was also able to remote access
Also tried with LogMeIn webrowser free account and was able to remote access also my remote PC.

The reason why i was not able to do this before was bcos one cannot do LANIP-->WANIP-->LANIP...ie. remote access a LAN PC via WANIP from a LAN PC using DSL 502T.....DSL 502T doesnt allow you to do a loopback.

I am writing this only hoping to save precious time of other people who may try this.....as i myself spent 20days and nights trying this only to realize late about the loopback issue with DSL 502T.

Thanxs to all essbebe, whitestar_999 for trying to help me.