Thread: will modem get spoiled when switched on 24x7?

Hello...
Am using BSNL ADSL modem with wireless capabilities. Sometimes I keep the modem on for the whole day that's 24x7. This I do because that is the only way whereby I can capaitalise on the free hours bet 2.15 am to 7.45 am. Since the modem is continuosly on will it have a negative effect? Will it get spoiled? Can u ppl give me your from your personal experiences?

My dad bashes me up whenever he sees the modem switched on 24X7. He says the modem will surely die one day. So pls give me ur opinions reg this..

My current modem has been on 24/7 for the past three years.
The only thing is the power consumption, but the modem
itself should be ok.

-F

The modem will die one day whether you leave it 24x7 on or not. But you can always turn it off when you are not using the internet. By giving "rest" to your modem from time to time you can prolong its life.

BTW the modem I am using is a Pronet Router, it does not have electric switch...It is meant to run for 24x7 but even then I shut it off for at least 5-6 hours a day when I am not using the internet.

@srinpraveen

What your dad told is correct. Keeping the modem on 24/7 will always have negative effect due to over heating of the components etc.. You should give some rest not like hours also just in the day time switch it off for 10 min inbetween and again connect it back. At noght no need to switch off as the temp will be lower than the day so not an issue.

If you have taken modem on rent from BSNL then dont switch off.. You can always get replacement :devil: so use it to the full extent.

Next time your dad says like that, you reply yes dad you are correct but anyhow it will die one day so why not use it to the full

you can just put some paper or some tape on the LED so the modem will be always off to your dad

Nice replies.. Thanks for sharing your experiences. Hereafter I'll do the following.
1) Switch off every now and then for 10 min in the day during continuous usage.
2) Switch off whenever not in use during day time
3) Keep modem switched on during the night only on those occassions when I want to download heavy files bet 2.15 to 7.45.. Other times keep it off.

@kirankumar
ha ha I tried that paper-covering-LED trick some months back but my Dad found it out and then from then on he checks if there's a paper covering the LEDs or any other fraudulent techniques..:001_tongue:

And also the modem is not bought on rent. Unfortunately it has been purchased from BSNL. So in that case I have to take precautionary measures like what you have mentioned. Thanks for the reply..

i think its normal all over india that power goes once in a day atleast so.. if u dont have a ups then there wont be any problem regarading this...

yup that's correct. That's precisely y I have shifted my modem plug to a normal socket rather than a UPS-powered socket..

Originally Posted by srinpraveen

yup that's correct. That's precisely y I have shifted my modem plug to a normal socket rather than a UPS-powered socket..

smart, very smart, so you are using the electircity board to switch
your modem off and on unk:

-F

I can capaitalise on the free hours bet 2.15 am to 7.45 am

Schedulers are available to restart the modem at about 0215 AM.
Check your usage, and ensure during
overlapping time block say 0145 to 0256
full download is not charged.

More than the modem, the power adapter used will
go faulty, as there is no Air vents available.
In one case the whole outer cover started melting.

Recent trend is to Save Energy ( and money for ourselves)
by switching of electrical gadgets, when not in use.

It is always better to switch off the modem for a few minutes.

Hope this will be useful (Still you need to keep modem ON)

http://imran-utilities.synthasite.com/

@FArce
ha ha tks for your compliments..

@essebebe
ya turning off when not needed seems to be the straightforward remedy.

@meetdilip
I am using Macro manager for rebooting my modem at 2.15 am. I have not yet tried Imran's utilities. Will try now as you have provided the link.. Is it good? or macro manager is better? I came to know about automation in rebooting the modem only very recently. SO I haven't tried much of automation utilities yet.
Tell me ur opinion as to which is best? imran or macro? (of course assuming u have used macro manager before)

Btw I use wireless adsl modem in PPOE mode as the connection is shared between the home pc and a laptop (Dad's) {HOME 500 plan)

Never tried Macro Manager. Imran's broadband utility is popular among IBF users.

You can find more details here

http://www.indiabroadband.net/broadb...e-manager.html (Ultimate Night Usage Manager.)

http://www.indiabroadband.net/broadb...2-am-8-am.html (Automatic rebooting of router at 2 AM and 8 AM)

But those threads are a bit confusing for a non-techie like me. Especially many ppl have posted abt modifying imran's script etc.. and the whole discussion sounds extremely techie and hence its a bit confusing me. That's why I was using a very straightforward method of macros...

But the disadvantage in macro manager is lets say I switch on the modem at 11 pm and go to sleep. And lets say I have scheduled the reboot at 2.15 am. In Imran's utlility the program will completely disconnect the modem between 11 pm to 2.15 am and start/reboot at 2.15 am. But here this facility is not there.

But nevertheless such intricate facility does not matter in my view because after all under modem idle condition the stray inbound and outbound packets of data will be going only in a tracer amount and in totality will amount to just a few Kilobytes of info for which there won't be any noteworthy excess money payment.

Also seems like everybody using Imran has configured their modem to bridge mode. But I checked my settings. Its PPOE mode in my case. And I think according to one of the posts in indiabroadband.net PPOE mode is the obe which wireless adsl modem is configured to and not the bridge mode..

And finally there is a popular notion that Imran's utilities will be useful only for bridge mode users. Since there are so many complications involved in Imran's s/w, I thought of using a macro manager appln for the moment.

If am wrong pls correct me. Also I'd be grateful if there's a simplified tutorial for Imran going down to the details right from installation of setup.exe..

May be this will suit your purpose

http://www.indiabroadband.net/bsnl-b...tml#post154907 (NU Configuration)

In this method we create two batch files to connect and disconnect internet at desired time. But it need bridge mode. You can request an Imran script if you wish. You can use any of those thread in " Broadband How to section ".

Can you elaborate on " Broadband How to section ". Where is it? Can you point the link pls.. Is that the plave where I can ask for an Imran script for PPPOE mode?
I analysed all ur posts. From all those, I infer that for PPPOE mode macro Expert is the only way to reboot the modem. Is that right? And sadly Imran's script appears to be compatible only with bridge mode
If am given a chance I'll definitely request someone to write a script compatible for PPPOE mode.

^^^^^

Posted By:srinpraveen
And sadly Imran's script appears to be compatible only with bridge mode

imran's broadband utility works only on PPPoE mode that is always on.

have you gone through the imram b utility ...? if yes you can find the script in that utility which is for modem on PPPoE that is always on.

192.168.1.1 23
WAIT "*"
SEND "admin\m" {user name}
WAIT "*"
SEND "admin\m" {your password}
WAIT ""
SEND "help\m"
WAIT "\m> help\m"
SEND "reboot\m"
WAIT "reboot\m"
SEND "reboot\m"
WAIT "reboot\m"
SEND "exit\m"
WAIT "*"
SEND ""

For more info go through this link....

http://www.indiabroadband.net/broadb...e-manager.html (Ultimate Night Usage Manager.)

Originally Posted by deepmohan

192.168.1.1 23
WAIT "*"
SEND "admin\m" {user name}
WAIT "*"
SEND "admin\m" {your password}
WAIT ""
SEND "help\m"
WAIT "\m> help\m"
SEND "reboot\m"
WAIT "reboot\m"
SEND "reboot\m"
WAIT "reboot\m"
SEND "exit\m"
WAIT "*"
SEND ""

Is this script universal ? Can anyone use it by simply entering their username and password .


Sorry if silly, 192.168.1.1 23, does it stand for 192.168.1.123 or 23 is after a space.

Link to Broadband How to

Originally Posted by farce

smart, very smart, so you are using the electircity board to switch
your modem off and on unk:

-F

:lol:

dilip sorry to say this.. looks like I am going to give up on Imran's utilities. Its just beyond my capability to understand the procedure given for using it. Maybe am not intelligent enough to understand it. I went thro all the links.

I must say the only clearest instruction-manual like thing for a lay-man given in the how-to threads for imran's utilities was post no 134 in the link http: //www.indiabroadband.net/broadband-how/8550-ultimate-night-usage-manager-14.html. My wireless ADSL model name is WA3002G4.

Using autoscript generator I was successfully able to reboot. But beyond that am not able to proceed cuz wen I press save it never gets saved as test.script. So I just gave up. I thought there'll be some elementary level instructions of getting it to work.

Anyway for the time being am going to stick with macro expert manager. That is far easier to use. No need any configuration.

By the way I just have a doubt. If I let the PC hibernate with the modem on, will inbound and outbound packets of data still be sent keeping the bandwith meter counter ticking? Even if so I am sure its just a very small amount. But I want to know whether there is any transmission of packets under pc hibernation condition? Pls guide me on this. Tks.

@meetdilip

Is this script universal ? Can anyone use it by simply entering their username and password .

Ya its universal for for Imran's broadband helper utility.

Few modem/routers will require calling reboot command 4 times as in my case (ITI model) else 2 times is enough.

SEND "reboot\m"
WAIT "reboot\m"
SEND "reboot\m"
WAIT "reboot\m"

Sorry if silly, 192.168.1.1 23, does it stand for 192.168.1.123 or 23 is after a space.

Yes 23 is after space it denotes the port no.

No problem. Always choose which you feel comfortable. The reason why I suggest Imran's is that it automatically checks connection and dials if there is a disconnection during night. There is no manual interference required and it can generate a good log file. You can find one or two auto redialling software in the NU configuration thread. Hope it will serve your purpose.

Originally Posted by srinpraveen

Using autoscript generator I was successfully able to reboot. But beyond that am not able to proceed cuz wen I press save it never gets saved as test.script.

after the script is generated for you by the auto script generator just copy the script and open the file "Broadband.script" using notepad available in the installation Dir and past it over the script available over their and just save it thats it and you are done no extra skills required.

I have now crossed atleast a few steps in Imran's utility now as compared to yesterday's checkmate situation I was. I followed Deepmohan's step and got the breakthrough. Now am able to reboot the modem at the required time but that apart, am not able to perform any other operation successfully. For eg, "ENABLE NIC NOW" and "DISABLE NIC NOW" buttons are working perfectly when I click them. Also "DISABLE NIC AT A SPECIFIED TIME" is working.

But essential features such as "ENABLE NIC AT SPECIFIED TIME", "CONNECTIVITY TO SITES AFTER EVERY 50 SEC SO THAT BANDWIDTH DOESN'T GET THROTTLED AND AUTOMATICALLY REBOOT MODEM IN 4 MIN IF THERE's NO CONNECTIVITY "----->(This is the most important feature but yet not working)
All these features are not working.

But since it has a good log file I hope india broadband forumites can help me out to make it work. Automatic reboot if no connectivity is the trumpcard feature of Imran's and if that's not working what's the point? Anway I am posting the log file. Here it is.. Focus on the last few lines. Those sites namely google, ubuntu etc which need to run to prevent bandwidth throttling are not getting run.

HEre is the log as attachment

Originally Posted by srinpraveen

Those sites namely google, ubuntu etc which need to run to prevent bandwidth throttling are not getting run.

dont worry about that i too get the same log.....but except that everything works fine.

form your log it seems ....

19.06.2009 10.35.23 > Enable Nic Command Issued.
19.06.2009 10.35.34 > Unable to open : Kubuntu | linux for human beings | Kubuntu
19.06.2009 10.36.24 > Unable to open : Google
19.06.2009 10.36.24 > No Connectivity Since last 3 Minutes - Rebooting Modem.
19.06.2009 10.36.24 > Current IP Before Reboot : Unable to Retrieve IP.
19.06.2009 10.36.24 > Unable to Reboot Modem - Can't able to Connect 192.168.1.1:23
19.06.2009 10.37.14 > Unable to open : Yahoo!
19.06.2009 10.38.04 > Unable to open : MSN.com

it is not able to reboot your modem....? still there is flaws in the script.