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coolvaibh2009 · 08-12-09, 01:41 AM

Hello Forum,
I have a doubt regarding BSNL nite unlimited plan!!!!
I want to know that, if i boot my modem at 11 pm in the night and do not dial my connection ( I have a dial up PPPOE connection for my BSNL BB) and configure my pc to connect to internet at 2.15 am and download the stuff, then, will BSNL count it as a free data download or the charged download?
Let me ask my Q in simple words.......do we need to reboot our modem after 2 pm to really get the free downloads? If my modem stays connected with a DSL link to BSNL since before 2 pm & connects and downloads the stuff only after 2 am then will BSNL count that data as a free download or will it charge me for that data since i was connected through my DSL link ( & not by my PPPOE dial up ) before 2 am?
I know this is a simple GK Q, but i am a new user of BSNL BB HOME 500 plan, so i am confused with it!!!!
So, if you wise people know the answer then please answer my query so that i can plan my downloads according to that.........
Any help from you people will be greatly appreciated!!!!!!
Thanks

mickey · 08-12-09, 01:48 AM

answer to all your queries is Imrans BB utility...

try to keep the time atleast 10 mins earlier that of BSNL'S...and you wont be charged..

coolvaibh2009 · 08-12-09, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mickey

answer to all your queries is Imrans BB utility...

try to keep the time atleast 10 mins earlier that of BSNL'S...and you wont be charged..

Hello there,
Thanks a lot for your reply. I have Imran's BB Helper Utility!!!!
I tried a lot but can not configure it in the least!!!! Can you please help me with it's settings? I will be very greatful to you for this!!!!!!
Thank You

mickey · 08-12-09, 01:59 AM

ok if you cannot work with IMrans

reboot your modem

coolvaibh2009 · 08-12-09, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mickey

ok if you cannot work with IMrans

reboot your modem

But please help me with it's settings. It's a terrific app & it will save a lot of time and energy of mine!!!!!!
Please!!!!!!

Archer · 08-12-09, 02:13 AM

BSNL will count it as free night unlimited download if you are using dialup(Bridge mode) mode and connects only after 2 AM, even is the modem is ON.
Some members here said that BSNL has updated their servers and no longer needs to reset connection 2 AM. Not sure about this.

Note: BSNL server time is the same as India Standard Time. You should synchronize system clock to this.

mickey · 08-12-09, 02:18 AM

BSNL'S time is there own time...

Indranil · 08-12-09, 03:47 AM

Anyone who using BSNL ISP dont need to reboot router for free download. No data will count during free time and not added to your account whether you reboot your router or not.
This is a rumor to reboot the router. If anyone have any doubt then test yourself.

panchabhut · 08-12-09, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indranil

Anyone who using BSNL ISP dont need to reboot router for free download. No data will count during free time and not added to your account whether you reboot your router or not.
This is a rumor to reboot the router. If anyone have any doubt then test yourself.

That is not correct.

However, now BSNL seems to have put in place a system whereby every 30 mins the system automatically verifies whether it is chargeable or free time.

So If anyone connects at say 10.40 pm and keeps the connection on, the system will count download upto 2.10 as chargeable and then the rest as free.
But if anyone connects at 10.58 then the system will download upto 2.28 as chargeable and then the rest as free.

However, please use the above at your own risk. For complete assurance, it is always advisable to reboot.

Indranil · 08-12-09, 04:08 PM

in your above statement do you test your self or this news from another person. My Router allwase on 24 Hours a day. Download starter at 2 am end at 7:59 am but the router dont reboot. But all are OK.

panchabhut · 08-12-09, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indranil

in your above statement do you test your self or this news from another person. My Router allwase on 24 Hours a day. Download starter at 2 am end at 7:59 am but the router dont reboot. But all are OK.

I have tested myself repeatedly over a period of one month, using different options, to arrive at that conclusion.

My connection is with 117 IP.

Indranil · 08-12-09, 05:52 PM

Ohh, My Ip is 59
I will again test the time of 10:58 pm to 2:28 AM

pjaveed · 08-27-09, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indranil

Anyone who using BSNL ISP dont need to reboot router for free download. No data will count during free time and not added to your account whether you reboot your router or not.
This is a rumor to reboot the router. If anyone have any doubt then test yourself.

I'm gonna have to agree with the PanchaBhut on this one. Not sure about BSNL's 'new' servers and methods, but before (1 year back), it was basically a crapshoot if u didn't reboot the modem. Sometimes BSNL would take ur connection as 'free usage' past 2 am, and sometimes it wouldnt! I unknowingly came very close to overshooting my limit quite a few months.

So to be on the muuuuch safer side, I recommend everyone has a manual/automatic reboot in place for their respective modems at 2 am.

Archer · 08-27-09, 02:08 AM

Test Result

Start Time: 15-08-2009 01:10:19 AM
Stop Time: 15-08-2009 02:10:48 AM
Download: 25,262 KB
Upload: 2,809 KB
Total: 28,071 KB
Duration: 01:00:29 AM
Chargeable Units: 28,071 KB

My IP address starts with 117. Now I don't have access to the usage check portal to post the screenshot.

Indranil · 08-27-09, 02:52 AM

Archer your total downlod size is 25MB during 01 : 10 :19 AM to 02 :10 :48 AM
25MB is not mutch higher size. If you browse during this time 01 :10 :19 AM to 01 :59 :59 AM and disconnect after 2AM the data transfer during the time 01 :10 :19 AM to 01 :59 :59added to your account but after 2AM the download data not added to your account whether you reboot or not.

Archer · 08-27-09, 03:33 AM

I wasn't continuously using Internet between 01:10 AM to 2:10 AM. I browsed some web pages and downloaded some small software. And if I remember correctly, the connection was idle [no data transfer] from 1:45/50 AM to 2:10 AM.

BTW, I use bridge-mode [dial-up] type of connection to access Internet.

Indranil · 08-27-09, 04:15 AM

If you browse before 2AM the data will added to your account.
browse web pages and downlod small software between 01:10 AM to 01:44 AM
total amount of data transfer during this time upload + download 28,071 KB = 28MB
and then the connection was idle from 1:45/50 AM to 2:10 AM. You disconnect at 2:10AM. So the data shows to your account 28,071 KB.
Simple Nothing wrong is there.

essbebe · 08-27-09, 08:57 AM

Users with Ip 117.xx.xx.xx
If you have free NU 0200AM to 0800 AM

Disconnect MODEM before/around 0155 AM
restart 0205AM
again switch off modem around 0755AM-.
so that Bsnl Usage meter counts as 0 your free usage.

any other combination, such as 0110AM to 0745 AM will
show all usage as chargeable.
If lucky , this period may be broken at 0140AM or 0210 AM
( 30 minute period/block )

Follow @panchabhut's advice.
screen shots if needed can be posted.
mtnl has specifically advised its users in similar manner in their web site.

Indranil · 09-02-09, 04:19 AM

Today I test that is the BSNL count the data transfer if I am not reboot the router at 2 am or not. First I synchronize my Computer time to time.windows.com to match with the BSNL time. Then log in at 10:58pm and log out at 2:28am. During this time I dont downlod any file except browsing the net and start download at 2am when my computer say the time.The result is below. Why I chose the time 10:58pm to 2:28am because some people say whole data will be added this time. So I chose this.

The total data transfer is 300MB but Sum Traffic Excluding Night Unlimited shows only 19MB of data transfer but dosenot shows the whole data transfer. This 19MB of data transfer for the web browsing before the 2am.
People reboot their router or not at 2am this is their own choice but if there is not reboot the router and downlod from the 2am there is no worry about adding whole data.
The BSNL server time is OK. The time of the BSNL server synchronize with time.windows.com. Look at the log in time and log out time. their are perfect.
If you know when to start downlod and when to stope downlod there is no worry about adding whole data transfer.

essbebe · 09-02-09, 08:28 AM

This is good news to all.
Same report from a MTNL user
.
Probably they have modified the usage counter
function wef today.

Please post a similar entry for August 2009.

(AIRTEL has done this long back. My free Nu was
recorded and on my objecting to same it is not
shown in my usage data site or in my bill. )

08-12-09, 01:41 AM	#1
coolvaibh2009 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: India Age: 25 Posts: 58 Rep Power: 1	Can anyone of you clear out my doubt about BSNL connectivity time dependency? Hello Forum, I have a doubt regarding BSNL nite unlimited plan!!!! I want to know that, if i boot my modem at 11 pm in the night and do not dial my connection ( I have a dial up PPPOE connection for my BSNL BB) and configure my pc to connect to internet at 2.15 am and download the stuff, then, will BSNL count it as a free data download or the charged download? Let me ask my Q in simple words.......do we need to reboot our modem after 2 pm to really get the free downloads? If my modem stays connected with a DSL link to BSNL since before 2 pm & connects and downloads the stuff only after 2 am then will BSNL count that data as a free download or will it charge me for that data since i was connected through my DSL link ( & not by my PPPOE dial up ) before 2 am? I know this is a simple GK Q, but i am a new user of BSNL BB HOME 500 plan, so i am confused with it!!!! So, if you wise people know the answer then please answer my query so that i can plan my downloads according to that......... Any help from you people will be greatly appreciated!!!!!! Thanks

08-12-09, 02:13 AM	#6
Archer Platinum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kerala Posts: 2,824 Rep Power: 6	BSNL will count it as free night unlimited download if you are using dialup(Bridge mode) mode and connects only after 2 AM, even is the modem is ON. Some members here said that BSNL has updated their servers and no longer needs to reset connection 2 AM. Not sure about this. Note: BSNL server time is the same as India Standard Time. You should synchronize system clock to this.

08-27-09, 02:08 AM	#14
Archer Platinum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kerala Posts: 2,824 Rep Power: 6	Test Result Start Time: 15-08-2009 01:10:19 AM Stop Time: 15-08-2009 02:10:48 AM Download: 25,262 KB Upload: 2,809 KB Total: 28,071 KB Duration: 01:00:29 AM Chargeable Units: 28,071 KB My IP address starts with 117. Now I don't have access to the usage check portal to post the screenshot. Last edited by Archer; 08-27-09 at 03:18 AM.

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08-12-09, 01:48 AM	#2
mickey Senior Member & Mod Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Delhi Posts: 3,303 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 8	answer to all your queries is Imrans BB utility... try to keep the time atleast 10 mins earlier that of BSNL'S...and you wont be charged..

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mickey Senior Member & Mod Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Delhi Posts: 3,303 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 8	ok if you cannot work with IMrans reboot your modem

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mickey Senior Member & Mod Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Delhi Posts: 3,303 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 8	BSNL'S time is there own time...

08-12-09, 03:47 AM	#8
Indranil Silver Member Join Date: May 2008 Age: 27 Posts: 314 Rep Power: 2	Anyone who using BSNL ISP dont need to reboot router for free download. No data will count during free time and not added to your account whether you reboot your router or not. This is a rumor to reboot the router. If anyone have any doubt then test yourself.

08-12-09, 04:08 PM	#10
Indranil Silver Member Join Date: May 2008 Age: 27 Posts: 314 Rep Power: 2	in your above statement do you test your self or this news from another person. My Router allwase on 24 Hours a day. Download starter at 2 am end at 7:59 am but the router dont reboot. But all are OK.

08-12-09, 05:52 PM	#12
Indranil Silver Member Join Date: May 2008 Age: 27 Posts: 314 Rep Power: 2	Ohh, My Ip is 59 I will again test the time of 10:58 pm to 2:28 AM

08-27-09, 02:52 AM	#15
Indranil Silver Member Join Date: May 2008 Age: 27 Posts: 314 Rep Power: 2	Archer your total downlod size is 25MB during 01 : 10 :19 AM to 02 :10 :48 AM 25MB is not mutch higher size. If you browse during this time 01 :10 :19 AM to 01 :59 :59 AM and disconnect after 2AM the data transfer during the time 01 :10 :19 AM to 01 :59 :59added to your account but after 2AM the download data not added to your account whether you reboot or not.

08-27-09, 03:33 AM	#16
Archer Platinum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kerala Posts: 2,824 Rep Power: 6	I wasn't continuously using Internet between 01:10 AM to 2:10 AM. I browsed some web pages and downloaded some small software. And if I remember correctly, the connection was idle [no data transfer] from 1:45/50 AM to 2:10 AM. BTW, I use bridge-mode [dial-up] type of connection to access Internet.

08-27-09, 04:15 AM	#17
Indranil Silver Member Join Date: May 2008 Age: 27 Posts: 314 Rep Power: 2	If you browse before 2AM the data will added to your account. browse web pages and downlod small software between 01:10 AM to 01:44 AM total amount of data transfer during this time upload + download 28,071 KB = 28MB and then the connection was idle from 1:45/50 AM to 2:10 AM. You disconnect at 2:10AM. So the data shows to your account 28,071 KB. Simple Nothing wrong is there.

08-27-09, 08:57 AM	#18
essbebe Platinum Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 4,246 Rep Power: 12	Users with Ip 117.xx.xx.xx If you have free NU 0200AM to 0800 AM Disconnect MODEM before/around 0155 AM restart 0205AM again switch off modem around 0755AM-. so that Bsnl Usage meter counts as 0 your free usage. any other combination, such as 0110AM to 0745 AM will show all usage as chargeable. If lucky , this period may be broken at 0140AM or 0210 AM ( 30 minute period/block ) Follow @panchabhut's advice. screen shots if needed can be posted. mtnl has specifically advised its users in similar manner in their web site.

09-02-09, 04:19 AM	#19
Indranil Silver Member Join Date: May 2008 Age: 27 Posts: 314 Rep Power: 2	Today I test that is the BSNL count the data transfer if I am not reboot the router at 2 am or not. First I synchronize my Computer time to time.windows.com to match with the BSNL time. Then log in at 10:58pm and log out at 2:28am. During this time I dont downlod any file except browsing the net and start download at 2am when my computer say the time.The result is below. Why I chose the time 10:58pm to 2:28am because some people say whole data will be added this time. So I chose this. The total data transfer is 300MB but Sum Traffic Excluding Night Unlimited shows only 19MB of data transfer but dosenot shows the whole data transfer. This 19MB of data transfer for the web browsing before the 2am. People reboot their router or not at 2am this is their own choice but if there is not reboot the router and downlod from the 2am there is no worry about adding whole data. The BSNL server time is OK. The time of the BSNL server synchronize with time.windows.com. Look at the log in time and log out time. their are perfect. If you know when to start downlod and when to stope downlod there is no worry about adding whole data transfer.

09-02-09, 08:28 AM	#20
essbebe Platinum Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 4,246 Rep Power: 12	This is good news to all. Same report from a MTNL user . Probably they have modified the usage counter function wef today. Please post a similar entry for August 2009. (AIRTEL has done this long back. My free Nu was recorded and on my objecting to same it is not shown in my usage data site or in my bill. )

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