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    Quote Originally Posted by Rcom View Post
    luke u r diverting the topic, thread starter wants an ISP which can give low pings with constant speeds all day long and i have stated him the ISP which can fulfill his needs, and out of nowhere u have started COPPER VS OPTIC FIBER WAR.
    I was just saying that latency of copper wires is better than optics. I agree that reliance till now is better if you can get access to it but in rural areas you can't get them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    Omg yes... lol..

    so now whose side will i need to stand,, Rcom! come up with your views for this,..
    u know Mickey the problem is luke don't want to digest the fact that Fiber-Optics is ages ahead of copper,if copper is good then why Communication giants spending billion dollars on Fiber-Optics???? just to show off??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rcom View Post
    luke u r diverting the topic, thread starter wants an ISP which can give low pings with constant speeds all day long and i have stated him the ISP which can fulfill his needs, and out of nowhere u have started COPPER VS OPTIC FIBER WAR.


    i am the refree right now, you have to clear whats the best optic/cop

    i am the forum admin.. you may even report, no help..
    clear my doubts and you sleep relaxed tonight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rcom View Post
    u know Mickey the problem is luke don't want to digest the fact that Fiber-Optics is ages ahead of copper,if copper is good then why Communication giants spending billion dollars on Fiber-Optics???? just to show off??
    @rcom right :yes:

    @luke, ball is in rcom's favour now, try to defend your goal post.. or i have to shake hands with him,,
    Last edited by mickey; 09-05-09 at 12:33 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker View Post
    I was just saying that latency of copper wires is better than optics. I agree that reliance till now is better if you can get access to it but in rural areas you can't get them.
    if latency is good on Copper then why huge communication companies have invested billion of dollars in laying Fiber-Optic lines under sea?? main thing is copper is good in small range, it looses when distance is high.

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    @luke and rcom and also to whomesoever it may concern


    adult +18 no offence intended


    Fibre optics is modulation-demodulation..
    copper wires is amplifiers, signal strengthening, metal involved, so more experiences of data loss may occur,


    thats what i think..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker View Post
    I am repeating nowhere I have said that optic is worse than copper. Show that post of mine where I have said that copper is better than optics fibre in all respects.
    What did I said?

    You first have to specify for what use you intend to use put.
    For mass transfer of data copper can never be used.

    Which will you use bullet which might have faster speed or a cannon which might have slower speed for killing a single person ?

    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    @luke and rcom and also to whomesoever it may concern


    adult +18 no offence intended


    Fibre optics is modulation-demodulation..
    copper wires is amplifiers, signal strengthening, metal involved, so more experiences of data loss may occur,


    thats what i think..
    That I have also said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker View Post
    That I have never said. Read what I said that latency is much better in copper wires not bandwidth ( how much you can download) & attenuation ( noise in signal).
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    than whats for we are just fighting like Cal-tech PHDians
    and let the poor guy know which is the best product for gaming... lol we messed up the thread..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    @luke and rcom and also to whomesoever it may concern


    adult +18 no offence intended


    Fibre optics is modulation-demodulation..
    copper wires is amplifiers, signal strengthening, metal involved, so more experiences of data loss may occur,


    thats what i think..
    yah that is the main reason for using Fiber-Optics there is no data loss in Fiber optic

    see this pic i pinged till 6000+replies on my connection not even a single packet is lost

    v3rt.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rcom View Post
    yah that is the main reason for using Fiber-Optics there is no data loss in Fiber optic

    see this pic i pinged till 6000+replies on my connection not even a single packet is lost

    v3rt.png
    I have already said that.

    Latency is different issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    than whats for we are just fighting like Cal-tech PHDians
    and let the poor guy know which is the best product for gaming... lol we messed up the thread..
    i have told the thread starter which isp can fulfill his demands but out of nowhere luke bragged himself in and started this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    than whats for we are just fighting like Cal-tech PHDians
    and let the poor guy know which is the best product for gaming... lol we messed up the thread..
    Reliance one of rcom if he can get or afford otherwise ADSL.

    ADSl is going to improve with time.
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    @mickey

    yet again he just doesn't want to stop he is always quoting my post just to start unnecessary discussion.

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    Now buddies plz.. ,stop this great Latency war of IBF.

    Truce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker View Post

    ADSl is going to improve with time.
    most of the isp's in North Korea and USA have dumped ADSL and now they are giving Fiber-To-Home connectivity.

    the END now XXXXXXXXX
    Last edited by Rcom; 09-05-09 at 12:51 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    i will tell him to go for Airtel cause of low costness..

    Quote Originally Posted by Rcom View Post
    most of the isp's in North Korea and USA have dumped ADSL and now they are giving Fiber-To-Home connectivity.

    the END now XXXXXXXXX
    red colored: i think its south korea..

    and about USA, was reading a blog some minutes back, and one writes
    "Due to recession, many common households are taking up Dial up connection back, to be connected with the internet because of low cost"
    Last edited by mickey; 09-05-09 at 12:55 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rcom View Post
    most of the isp's in North Korea and USA have dumped ADSL and now they are giving Fiber-To-Home connectivity.

    the END now XXXXXXXXX
    I was talking about India where quality of service is bad & cost higher.

    Wimax-m is the future. Just search about it.

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    in US 9% users get back to DIAL UP (out numbering total Mac users)

    While they were all the rage in the 90s, with so many broadband options available to so many people nowadays, it seems a bit archaic to still be dialing in to your ISP, listening to those eerie modem protocol negotiation whistles as your connection becomes established. Despite how dated it may seem, about 9% of internet users in the U.S. are getting online with dial-up, which is a sizable amount when you consider they outnumber Mac users.

    Source: Dial-up internet access still popular as recession hits : Obsessable Technology News


    Only 9% of Americans were still using dial-up in a study last year by the Pew Internet & American Life Project. Time Warner Inc.’s AOL, once the king of dial-up with almost 27 million U.S. subscribers at its peak, decided long ago to prop itself up instead on advertising revenue. Now AOL, whose Internet subscribers are still mainly dial-up customers, counts 6.9 million of them...

    But even if faster service is more useful, the higher monthly bills are drawing scrutiny these days. Of the people who told Pew they still have dial-up access, 35% said faster service is too expensive for them. (Nineteen percent said nothing would persuade them to upgrade.)



    Source: Recession could lengthen the twilight of dial-up | Pew Internet & American Life Project

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    i will tell him to go for Airtel cause of low costness..



    red colored: i think its south korea..

    and about USA, was reading a blog some minutes back, and one writes
    "Due to recession, many common households are taking up Dial up connection back, to be connected with the internet because of low cost"

    phew i made a typo in a hurry, not just internet connection American's now are buying small fuel efficient cars rather than fuel guzzling V8's and SUV's they buy earlier.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker View Post
    I was talking about India where quality of service is bad & cost higher.
    But Reliance(Metro Ethernet) and Airtel (ADSL) in India gives Good quality, on the other hand reliance uses expensive technology thus their plans cost more than Airtel.
    Last edited by Rcom; 09-05-09 at 01:07 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rcom View Post


    reliance uses expensive technology thus their plans cost more than Airtel.
    yes, Reliance built high speed optical fibre all across India, at the time when it was very expensive all over the world..

    but i think a common Indian, wont purchase something with this sympathy..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rcom View Post

    But Reliance(Metro Ethernet) and Airtel (ADSL) in India gives Good quality, on the other hand reliance uses expensive technology thus their plans cost more than Airtel.
    That is not correct. It still require much improvement on scale of 3 times to meet standard set.
    In case of PSU it requires in scale of 6 times.
    Also cost should be less by 10 times.

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    about Airtel:

    I've heard that airtel implements a "Fair usage policy" and throttles bandwidth if you use too much (not even sure how much); is this true ?

    If so, it's useless because with online gaming and occasional web browsing I end up using 4.5-5.5GB.

    Re: ADSL -
    I doubt it will improve. In particular BSNL will most likely never improve and use shitty routing. I heard they don't even have their own gateway but im not 100% sure about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsen View Post
    about Airtel:

    I've heard that airtel implements a "Fair usage policy" and throttles bandwidth if you use too much (not even sure how much); is this true ?

    If so, it's useless because with online gaming and occasional web browsing I end up using 4.5-5.5GB.

    Re: ADSL -
    I doubt it will improve. In particular BSNL will most likely never improve and use shitty routing. I heard they don't even have their own gateway but im not 100% sure about this.


    Yes its 100% true if u reach at certain amount of usage(defined by airtel on various plans) ur speed will be capped by 50% say u r on 1MbPS plan if FUP triggers u will get 512KbPS till next billing cycle!!!

    Expecting improvement from a GOVT ISP is like expecting from a pig to fly!!!! i.e it will never happen!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rcom View Post

    Expecting improvement in GOVT ADSL is like expecting from a pig to fly!!!! i.e it will never happen!!
    who told you pigs dont fly!!!??

    @Rsen, buddy these are the only option for you.. btw even if you get a good connection, you may require some better proxies(if on foreign networks) cause its really two slow..

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