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rsen

I'm currently using BSNL Home1000. The internet usage comes to roughly 4.5-5.5 GB on average per month.
I need a constant speed of around 1.5Mpbs (Bsnl gives me around 2Mbps).

Having unlimited downloads or night time unlimited downloads is a plus.

The only major problem with BSNL is ridiculously high latency to EU and US servers (550-650ms average).

Is there any provider that gives similar speeds, similar download limits, or better ?

I'm looking at airtel and reliance but finding any information or relative comparison of plans is like pulling teeth out.

Rcom

if u crave for constant speeds with low ping time all day long then subscribe to Reliance Wire-line not WiMAX.

visit this thread for more info
http://www.indiabroadband.net/relian...me-lowerd.html (Download and Upload increased and ping time lowerd!!)

rsen

Do you have any further information on this reliance connection and which cities it's available in/how much it costs etc ?

thats_me

USE GARENA AND HAMACHI ..... works well on any isp as far as I have seen. With atleast 256 Kbps up/down

rockstarrakesh666

some times even a normal phone line con give you low pings..

1.even if you are on a fiber optic line chances are that your dns servers may not be up to the task

2.the mix between the dns and the operator is 1:3 so no worries

3.my advice is that if you chose a fiber optic line then better go with level 3 dns{4.2.2.1} and {4.2.2.2}

cheers...

Rcom

visit this

:: Reliance Broadband ::

rsen

1MBps: 2200 + 500 phone rental = 2700 pm
2MBps: 5000 + 500 phone rental = 5500 pm

Is it just me or does this sound hideously expensive ?

Right now I'm paying only 1000 per month for a 1.5Mbps speed (although the download limit of 5gb).

Rcom

its all about affordability dude if u have money then everything is cheap for you,but still 1MbPS plan at 2200 is VFM, considering the fact u can download 324 GB in Rs2200 without any FUP,and phone rental is Rs 50 not 500.

same 1MbPS plan from Airtel cost 1700 but they have implemented FUP on it!!

rsen

ok thanks, it's interesting to know that reliance doesn't have FUP like airtel.

manoj_infos

AMACHI server is good.......But for bsnl broadband 500c/500c+ the ping level will not remain in constant level due to vary in speed from 256kbps to 2mbps......

TECH HUNTER

I am planning to get 3G when launched.
how good will be gaming with that connection?

rsen

Probably bad.
3G is mostly overhyped and rubbish.
Wireless networks are typically unreliable and packet loss/fluctuating latency is almost a given.
I don't understand why indian government is pushing such high end/luxury technologies that aren't even that useful, when basic internet infrastructure is garbage.

In the US and in most western countries they primarily use cable internet - which is a joke over here. The technology is cheap and the bandwidth is amazing.
You can easily get up to 20Mbps unlimited for $40 a month (which is Rs 2000). In India even with Rs 2000 we cannot get close to that and remember that the buying power of Rs 2000 in India is much higher than the US.

Not sure who takes the blame for such a pathetic state of broadband in India.

About Hamachi mentioned in this thread -

Hamachi is a private 3rd party game server, I'm not sure why people keep bringing this up. It's generally known as a way to access multiplayer content for pirated games.
It really has no bearing at all on your internet connection.

mickey

Indian govt wants to make India Japan,..
yes you are right, but here they cannot built cable infrastructre as the one building all this is the buyer and not the co..

rsen

Typically cable internet uses the same coax cables used for cable TV.
It's odd that the multitude of cable operators in India don't implement this; they have the infrastructure in place too.

This is exactly how it works with Time Warner in the USA.

Luke Skywalker

Sorry to dispel a myth ( one of greatest of our time),copper wires have better latency( then optic fibres) & will always have . Ask any communication engineer with knowledge.

Rcom

read this

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Fiber Channel is fast becoming the gigabit-per-second interconnect technology of choice for high-speed system designers. It performs extremely well for storage, networks, video, data acquisition and many other applications. Fibre Channel is ideal for reliable, high-speed transfer of digital audio/video signals. Currently, aerospace design engineers are using Fibre Channel for highly reliable, real-time networking, as well as for low-latency, high- throughput signal processing applications. Fibre Channel interface products are available in both fiber optic and copper based formats.

Fiber optic technology is simply a method of carrying information from one point to another in the form of light utilizing a thin strand of glass or plastic that serves as the transmission medium over which the information passes. Since the data is being transmitted with light pulses, as opposed to electrical current, there are several key advantages that make fiber optics attractive in applications ranging from telephony to computers to aircraft.

One of the most beneficial advantages is the extremely wide bandwidth, which allows for increased information carrying capacity. The practical bandwidth of fiber optic cables far exceeds that of copper cable assemblies. Using optical fibers also helps to minimize attenuation in your system. As a signal travels along a transmission medium, either copper or fiber, the signal will naturally lose strength. In a copper wire, the attenuation increases as the frequency of the information signal increases. However, the attenuation in an optical fiber is virtually flat up until very high frequencies.

Unless properly shielded, copper conductors can have problems with Electromagnetic Interference (EMI) affecting the data signal. Any exposed copper conductor can act as an antenna, depending on its length, that will either radiate or receive energy. Proper impedance matching and continuous enclosure solves this problem. However, susceptibility is completely eliminated by using fiber optics, which is immune to EMI and crosstalk. Fiber optics is considered one of the most highly secure transmission methods available.

Another advantage of fiber optics is its small size and weight. Copper wires require more lines than fiber for the same transmission capacity. The reduced number of lines allows for maximum space utilization. This is extremely important in the commercial aircraft industry, since every pound can translate into increased operating costs.
Fibre Channel transceivers can also be driven with true differential pair twinaxial signaling with 150-ohm impedance between conductors. A true twinaxial connector interface ensures signal integrity thereby minimizing jitter and data rate errors that will inevitably degrade the high-speed digital signal.

source-sabritec.com

Luke Skywalker

Where doest it say latency of optic is better than copper?

Bandwidth is better that every one knows.

rsen

wait what ?
please cite your sources.
sounds like you're making it up.

Rcom

@rsen:luke is desperately trying to prove copper is better than Fiber Optics

Luke Skywalker

Latency of copper wires - Google Search

What are the info in links in this page?
Also check out this:http://www.indiabroadband.net/broadb...tml#post239163 (Explanation of Latency by L.S. & dispelling of some myths)

In some respect copper is better for example latency but not overall. You are not reading my posts , I think.