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    Question Can i reduce my line rate from 6Mbps to 2 Mbps?

    Hello all..
    Ever since I installed the BSNL IPTV and got my line rate increased from 2Mbps to 6Mbps (for the purpose of IPTV) I'm having terrible problems of the DSL going off and restarting frequently. I use the Home 500 plan.

    I'm aware and believe that with an increased distance between the BSNL exchange and your home, the stability of the connection is more when the line rate decreases. (i.e, The line stability that you get at 2mbps is more than what you would possibly have with a 6mbps connection) My S/N ratio also sucks big time with such a high line rate.

    My question is, is it possible for me to tweak and somehow reduce the speed at which my router connects to the bsnl exchange? I had already asked a thousand times to them to have the IPTV thing disconnected and restore my connection to the 2 mbps bandwidth but there has been no response... something that I already expected...

    So, can i have this done from within the router page or is it impossible to do so since the limit has been pre-set at BSNL's end?

    Thanks for the help..

    Oh yeah by the way, My router is the DNA-A211-I wi-fi ..
    And please dont advice of having my line checked.. bcuz before the installation of IPTV, I have everything checked and cable pair at the exchange was replaced with a completely new one and the wiring in my home was also renewed...

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    SNR Margin (dB): 13.9 24.0
    Attenuation (dB): 37.0 19.0

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    Ever since I installed the BSNL IPTV and got my line rate increased from 2Mbps to 6Mbps (for the purpose of IPTV)
    Please explain where you measured this.
    IPTV data goes directly to Decoder ( set top )box.
    From the Three way splitter.

    What is your tariff plan for Broadband ?


    In your Modem ADSL data check the mod mode selected.
    Give data for both entries , regarding line rate.
    Possible max line rate and
    actual synchronised.
    SNR Margin (dB): 13.9 24.0
    Attenuation (dB): 37.0 19.0
    Indicates LINE trouble!!! or Change mod mode to GDMT and post fresh data .
    Mod mode selected
    ..............d/l u/l
    adsl data
    attn
    line rate
    rate
    Check your speed at ( with IPTV /OFF and ON)
    Airtel
    MINE 1.93Mbps D/L (Airtel 2048 Kbps) no IPTV in use.
    Last edited by essbebe; 03-06-10 at 10:54 PM.

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    Here is the required information in the attachment...
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    speed test result please.

    6144 D/L may be an error. can be 2144. Kbps

    Change Mod mode to ADSL2+ and
    check any change in readings.
    Attainable rate may increase but line rate may be
    within the speed limit of your ISP connection.

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    My tariff plan is Home 500. 2.5 GB.. with Night 2 am to 8 am unlimited..

    I would not call the Attenuation (dB): 37.0 as a line problem because the distance between my home and the local exchange is way too much as confirmed by BSNL authority and the IPTV technical people.

    My mode is already set to g.dmt only..

    Unfortunately, I will not be able to test with IPTV on/off as the connection has been suspended long back.. (Though equipments are there I haven't recharged as I no longer prefer to use that service)

    In the speed test, the max. speed will show 2Mbps only as the 6Mbps is only for the IPTV port.. Not the internet port... But still I was thinking it would affect my internet port as well since my whole line was 'upgraded' at BSNL's end.. Am i wrong?

    Speed test results:

    D/L: 1.32 Mb/s
    U/L: 0.21 Mb/s
    Ping: 162 ms
    Speedtest.net - The Global Broadband Speed Test

    The splitter configuration is not that way.. maybe it is for airtel.. For BSNL, it is just one line in with 2 line out.. 1 line out to the phone and the 2nd line out to the router... From the router, the stb is connected via an ethernet cable..

    Changing to ADSL2+ will decrease my SNR.. that is the reason I have switched to g.dmt I believe... anyhow.. I believe the line rate will be around 6mbps only in either of the modes..
    Last edited by karthik316_1999; 03-06-10 at 11:09 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Here is the stat in adsl2+ mode...
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    Now my question is, is there a way for me to reduce this 6Mbps line rate to 2?

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    Please try Mod mode GLITE also.
    INFO:
    Speedtest.net results. for Home 500C
    D/L: 1.32 Mb/s
    U/L: 0.21 Mb/s
    PROBLEM/Query .
    How to reduce D/L rate from 6140 Kbps


    Save/backup present settings of router.
    RESET the router to Factory settings.
    Re enter all data.
    recheck ADSL Data again.
    REFERENCES:
    http://www.indiabroadband.net/bsnl-b...tml#post232700 (UTSTAR WA3002-G4 quick reference)
    http://www.calcutta.bsnl.co.in/iptvfaq.pdf
    Feedback.
    Last edited by essbebe; 03-07-10 at 06:35 AM.

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    Are you very sure this kind of factory reset will reduce the line rate to 2 mbps?... What concerns me is that the speedcap for my connection is set to 6mbps at the BSNL exchange.. will these settings in the router page over-ride that?
    Also, does that backup option store the pppoe username and passwords as well? Cuz I dont remember what my password is..! It is currently shown as hidden characters only..

    g.lite mode does not work at all.. The dsl light kept on blinking forever.. I am lucky to be back with the g.dmt mode again.. had i closed the window.. the router page would not have been accesible forever and I dont know my pppoe password to setup a new connection as well...!

    And the firmware upgrade, I used the modem s/w upgrade utility. As soon as I click on the upgrade button, I get an error that says

    Run-time error '9':
    Subscript out of range

    My current s/w version is 3.08.02.IB.02.01_1206_030308

    Okay.. I downloaded the update file manually and had the s/w version now upgraded to 3.08.02.IB.02.01_1701_022709

    But no change in the line rate as such... Is there still a chance of the line rate reducing to 2mbps if I have a factory reset done.. I dont want to try it unless there is atleast a 90% chance of achieving the result..!
    Last edited by karthik316_1999; 03-07-10 at 12:50 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    no modem reset wil not change line rate !
    and i dont think that higher line rate is the problem !
    i have same above 6000 and distance from exchange is also more than 8 km !
    though i got decent speed !
    my speed @ time of posting !
    Last edited by arpit60; 03-07-10 at 04:46 AM.

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    .@kartik316_1999
    1.
    If you don't have any problem now, in connecting to Internet and surfing,no need to try to change the D/L rate.


    2.
    Seems your line has been set/synchronised to higher d/l rate for 6Mbps at BSNL end. ( for IPTV) ( technical word DSLAM?)
    3.
    The results you have reported were expected.
    G Lite is for a connection less than 1.5 Mbps speed and ,was suggested only for a test.
    4.
    I do not know what is the status/level of the member from the post most of the time, and always give steps from basic/newbie level. ( to which I belong )
    5.
    Saving/backing the present setup of the modem router saves your password also. ( which 99% of members here do not suggest).
    I may get a response"
    "What do you think ? Do you mean I don't know how to set up the modem again " or words to this effect !!!.
    6.
    I did not advise FW update, and ref was given to give more info in the thread, and for future use.
    You may bookmark the link/thread
    Congrats.
    Do you see any other improvement ,otherwise, in your Internet connection ?
    7.
    Luckily, you did not RESET the modem.
    I am no astrologer to know that you are on "Always On"mode and forgot the user password.
    8.
    How to know your forgotten User Password.
    ( other than asking BSNL CC !).
    I don't want to spell out the method.

    9. We have about 16/18 major Indian languages,and other minor languages /dialects in use in INDIA.
    When we use ENGLISH, ( which is not the mother tongue of most of us )different members interpret, as they like, and assume/presume a different meaning, and reply !
    Nowhere, I had said, in my posts, that changing the Mod mode will reduce the D/L rate !
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    For instance, some members have reported higher speed , even when they had changed their plan to a lower speed, and also complained that the speed remains same, even when higher speed was opted. !
    11.
    "The best way to win an argument is to avoid it "( quote from a book by Dale Carnegie )
    since you are sure/concluded that ATTN D/L 37dB is fine, did not pursue the technical discussion further.

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    Yes, I am aware of the DSLAM setting. which means the line rate is not going to be reduced unless and until it is done at BSNL's end.. correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by arpit60 View Post
    no modem reset wil not change line rate !
    and i dont think that higher line rate is the problem !
    i have same above 6000 and distance from exchange is also more than 8 km !
    though i got decent speed !
    my speed @ time of posting !
    Do you have some 6mbps plan or is it that you also have IPTV installed?
    Can you post your snr/Attenuation info?

    Quote Originally Posted by essbebe View Post
    .@kartik316_1999
    1.
    If you don't have any problem now, in connecting to Internet and surfing,no need to try to change the D/L rate.
    I very much have a problem. That is why I'm here for help!

    2.
    Seems your line has been set/synchronised to higher d/l rate for 6Mbps at BSNL end. ( for IPTV) ( technical word DSLAM?)
    Certainly.

    3.
    The results you have reported were expected.
    G Lite is for a connection less than 1.5 Mbps speed and ,was suggested only for a test.
    Alright.

    4.
    I do not know what is the status/level of the member from the post most of the time, and always give steps from basic/newbie level. ( to which I belong )
    Convenient!

    5.
    Saving/backing the present setup of the modem router saves your password also. ( which 99% of members here do not suggest).
    I may get a response"
    "What do you think ? Do you mean I don't know how to set up the modem again " or words to this effect !!!
    I did not know that and was an useful info. for me.

    6.
    I did not advise FW update, and ref was given to give more info in the thread, and for future use.
    You may bookmark the link/thread
    Congrats.
    Do you see any other improvement ,otherwise, in your Internet connection ?
    The link that you gave http://www.indiabroadband.net/bsnl-b...tml#post232700 (UTSTAR WA3002-G4 quick reference) if you can see.. goes directly to post #5 titled "Firmware update". So, I updated the firmware!
    Nope, no improvement that I can see.

    7.
    Luckily, you did not RESET the modem.
    I am no astrologer to know that you are on "Always On"mode and forgot the user password.
    I absolutely knew this and that is why did not reset the router. No luck involved here

    8.
    How to know your forgotten User Password.
    ( other than asking BSNL CC !).
    I don't want to spell out the method.
    Google is the word !

    9. We have about 16/18 major Indian languages,and other minor languages /dialects in use in INDIA.
    When we use ENGLISH, ( which is not the mother tongue of most of us )different members interpret, as they like, and assume/presume a different meaning, and reply !
    Nowhere, I had said, in my posts, that changing the Mod mode will reduce the D/L rate !
    I also did not blame you anywhere in this thread for my line rate not having changed!

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    For instance, some members have reported higher speed , even when they had changed their plan to a lower speed, and also complained that the speed remains same, even when higher speed was opted. !
    The reason for my high line rate is now clearly understood between us, i guess.

    11.
    "The best way to win an argument is to avoid it "( quote from a book by Dale Carnegie )
    since you are sure/concluded that ATTN D/L 37dB is fine, did not pursue the technical discussion further.
    I did not say it was 'fine' but I thought (and believe) that it is based upon the distance between the exchange and my home. Atleast, that was what I was told by IPTV and BSNL. If you have some info. that is different or that which can help me decrease the value, please do share.

    I have also achieved speeds of 240+kB/s on this same connection with the same line rate with the same attenuation months back (Though I used to have disconnections occasionally). This is all of a sudden now getting worser.

    The problem is not only that the DSL light goes off and gets connected again but all the lights on the router are glowing fine but no surfing was possible (The PPP status is shown as 'Down') The connection comes up live again only when i restart the router. This keeps repeating for every 10-15 mins.

    Thanks for the help!
    Last edited by karthik316_1999; 03-11-10 at 08:11 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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