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    Default Slow Speeds, High/fluctuating latency, disconnects

    South Kolkata
    Home 1000
    Windows XP
    SNR Up/Down 15 dB /21.5 dB
    Attenuation Up/Down 7.0 dB /14.0 dB
    G.Dmt, EC Mode, Bitswap enabled
    Bridged Mode

    BSNL tech support person came to my house and checked line/connection and said everything is ok.

    Getting horrible download speeds/disconnects, packet losses, fluctuating latency and typically 200-400ms above normal.

    Ping to Product reviews and prices, software downloads, and tech news - CNET (normal 290-320ms)
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=467ms TTL=244
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=469ms TTL=244
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=476ms TTL=244
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=468ms TTL=244
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=474ms TTL=244
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=470ms TTL=244
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=460ms TTL=244
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=550ms TTL=244
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=464ms TTL=244
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=465ms TTL=244
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=468ms TTL=244
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=467ms TTL=244

    traceroute to Product reviews and prices, software downloads, and tech news - CNET

    Tracing route to gtm-tron-xw.cnet-basic-performance.akadns.net [216.239.122.164]

    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 9 ms 10 ms 10 ms 59.93.192.1
    2 9 ms 10 ms 6 ms 218.248.255.10
    3 64 ms 65 ms 66 ms AES-Static-177.131.17.125.airtel.in [125.17.131.177]
    4 252 ms 254 ms 254 ms AES-Static-137.36.144.59.airtel.in [59.144.36.137]
    5 251 ms 250 ms 256 ms xe-7-0-0.lon11.ip4.tinet.net [77.67.73.233]
    6 393 ms 345 ms 347 ms xe-5-3-0.nyc20.ip4.tinet.net [89.149.184.230]
    7 342 ms 341 ms 340 ms 192.205.36.113
    8 392 ms 394 ms 393 ms cr2.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.86.10]
    9 391 ms 395 ms 396 ms cr2.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.122.3.38]
    10 385 ms 387 ms 387 ms cr1.attga.ip.att.net [12.122.1.173]
    11 395 ms 395 ms 393 ms cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.28.174]
    12 391 ms 393 ms 394 ms gar10.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.138.121]
    13 396 ms 397 ms 391 ms 12.87.121.22
    14 385 ms 388 ms 392 ms c18-rb-gtm1-tron-xw-lb.cnet.com [216.239.122.164]

    Trace complete.


    el paso, texas
    normal values - 290-320ms, 2 MBps


    latency at least 250ms more than normal; DL speed is ok.

    Any kind of help about this would be appreciated.
    This has been going on for about a month; with fluctuating latency throughout the day.

    Sometimes repeatedly disconnecting and reconnecting to BSNL picks a server without such high latency, but usually it doesn't work.

    Just like to add, reconnecting to BSNL multiple times almost always leads to:

    1) higher latency
    2) error 691 : Access was denied because the username/and or password was invalid on the domain.
    3) stuck at "Connecting to WAN miniport (PPoE)..."
    4) stuck on "Dialing"
    5) error 678: "The remote computer did not respond"

    I have multiple connections shortcuts setup for default BSNL dns, opendns and googledns.

    I try each of these multiple times with similar problems as above, or in rare case, lower latency.
    Last edited by rsen; 04-15-10 at 02:30 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsen View Post
    South Kolkata
    Home 1000
    Windows XP
    SNR Up/Down 15 dB /21.5 dB
    Attenuation Up/Down 7.0 dB /14.0 dB
    G.Dmt, EC Mode, Bitswap enabled
    Bridged Mode
    ONLY GOD can help.

    I'm also from South Kolkata..... Internet frequently disconnecting ....connection is reseting ....I have Bridge Mode ....I am a UL 750 user.

    see the ping google.com output ....loss of packet ...request timeout.



    But this frequent disconnection is very hard to show to the BSNL guys.....they think internet is connected means everything is Ok...I called up and they said everything is ok .

    download speed is also horrible ...utorrent download speed 2-3 kbps ...

    Even the http download is also affected because of frequent disconnection.

    I logged complaints , dockets ...but BSNL guys don't understand all these problems....very unfortunate.

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    yeah 417 ms to google is just absurd.

    I'm getting 400+ latency to ANYWHERE outside india.
    BSNL must have royally screwed over the routing somewhere

    On top of that the latencies fluctuate wildly and there is packet loss.

    whatever be the case this is extremely frustrating

    it's also frustrating that BSNL and everyone else is completely indifferent to the whole thing.

    I wonder what kind of pings airtel/reliance are getting
    coz frankly i'm sick and tired of bsnl's bullshit.

    Is there any way of getting some news about what's going on ? or a way of actually contacting BSNL ?

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    I'm suffering almost 5+ days . As per my information,they implemented a promotional scheme to double speed for all UL users till 24th april ...somehow the process messed up in between ....instead of doubling speed it has now become halved

    But the poor tech support guys are facing the heat from customers because they are less informed....entire thing is unprofessional and unplanned .

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    Someone *please* explain the following :

    at times when I dial to bsnl I get 616+ms latency
    at other times when I dial to bsnl i get 329+ ms latency

    these dial attempts are a few seconds within each other
    It's not making sense
    Even the routing path is the same.

    I'll dump a aggregated traceroute statistic for each instance:

    Code:
    opendns - 616ms
    
    HopIP             Hostname                                  last [ms]min [ms]max [ms]ava. [ms]var. [ms]total Lossperc. LossLatitudeLongitudeRTTLASN    
    1  59.93.192.1    59.93.192.1                               13       8       13      10       4                  0                          255 AS9829 
    2  218.248.255.10 218.248.255.10                            11       11      11      11       0                  0                          253        
    3  218.248.250.22 218.248.250.22                            52       52      53      52       1                  0                          253 AS9829 
    4  206.24.169.93  206.24.169.93                             209      209     209     209      0                  0                          61         
    5  204.70.192.5   cr1-pos-0-0-3-0.londonuk1.savvis.net      213      213     213     213      0                  0                          251        
    6  *              *                                                  289     289     289                         0                          251        
    7  204.70.198.14  er2-tengig-2-1.NewYork.savvis.net         293      287     293     290      4                  0                          251        
    8  192.205.36.185 192.205.36.185                            291      287     291     289      3                  0                          59         
    9  12.122.80.238  cr2.n54ny.ip.att.net                      619      617     620     619      2                  0                          32         
    10 12.122.3.38    cr2.wswdc.ip.att.net                      621      619     621     620      1                  0                                     
    11 12.122.1.173   cr1.attga.ip.att.net                      619      617     619     618      1                  0                                     
    12 12.122.28.174  cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net                      619      619     619     619                         0                          32         
    13 12.122.138.157 gar23.dlstx.ip.att.net                    614      614     614     614                         0                                     
    14 12.122.254.154 12-122-254-154.attens.net                 613      613     613     613                         0                                     
    15 63.241.193.18  mdf001c7613r0004-gig-10-1.dal1.attens.net 620      620     620     620                         0                          245        
    16 *              *                                                                                              0        
    
    
    
    default dns - 329ms
    
    HopIP             Hostname                                  last [ms]min [ms]max [ms]ava. [ms]var. [ms]total Lossperc. LossLatitudeLongitudeRTTLASN
    1  59.93.254.1    59.93.254.1                               9        7       9       8        1                  0                          255    
    2  218.248.255.10 218.248.255.10                            11       6       11      8        4                  0                          253    
    3  218.248.248.250218.248.248.250                           51       46      51      48       4                  0                          253    
    4  206.24.169.93  206.24.169.93                             288      288     289     288      1                  0                          61     
    5  204.70.192.5   cr1-pos-0-0-3-0.londonuk1.savvis.net      290      290     290     290                         0                          251    
    6  204.70.192.121 cr1-pos-0-8-0-0.NewYork.savvis.net        291      287     291     289      3                  0                          251    
    7  204.70.198.14  er2-tengig-2-1.NewYork.savvis.net         286      286     291     288      4                  0                          251    
    8  192.205.36.185 192.205.36.185                            287      287     288     288      1                  0                          59     
    9  12.122.80.238  cr2.n54ny.ip.att.net                      328      328     328     328      0                  0                          32     
    10 12.122.3.38    cr2.wswdc.ip.att.net                      330      330     331     330      1                  0                                 
    11 12.122.1.173   cr1.attga.ip.att.net                      329      329     329     329      0                  0                                 
    12 12.122.28.174  cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net                      331      330     331     330      1                  0                          32     
    13 12.122.138.157 gar23.dlstx.ip.att.net                    329      329     330     330      1                  0                                 
    14 12.122.254.154 12-122-254-154.attens.net                 336      336     336     336      0                  0                                 
    15 63.241.193.22  mdf001c7613r0003-gig-12-1.dal1.attens.net 326      326     332     329      4                  0                          244    
    16 *              *                                                                                              0                                 
    
    
    
    default dns - 616ms
    
    HopIP             Hostname                                  last [ms]min [ms]max [ms]ava. [ms]var. [ms]total Lossperc. LossLatitudeLongitudeRTTLASN    
    1  59.93.192.1    59.93.192.1                               12       8       15      12       3                  0                          255 AS9829 
    2  218.248.255.10 218.248.255.10                            8        7       11      9        2                  0                          253        
    3  218.248.250.22 218.248.250.22                            47       47      49      48       1                  0                          253 AS9829 
    4  206.24.169.93  206.24.169.93                             213      213     213     213      0                  0                          61         
    5  204.70.192.5   cr1-pos-0-0-3-0.londonuk1.savvis.net      209      209     210     210      1                  0                          251        
    6  204.70.196.118 cr2-tengig-0-15-0-0.NewYork.savvis.net    285      285     291     288      3                  0                          252        
    7  204.70.198.18  er2-tengig-3-1.NewYork.savvis.net         287      285     287     286      1                  0                          251        
    8  192.205.36.185 192.205.36.185                            287      287     287     287      0                  0                          59         
    9  12.122.80.238  cr2.n54ny.ip.att.net                      613      613     615     614      1                  0                          32         
    10 12.122.3.38    cr2.wswdc.ip.att.net                      616      616     620     618      3                  0                                     
    11 12.122.1.173   cr1.attga.ip.att.net                      615      615     618     616      2                  0                                     
    12 12.122.28.174  cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net                      617      617     617     617      0                  0                          32         
    13 12.122.138.157 gar23.dlstx.ip.att.net                    619      615     619     617      3                  0                                     
    14 12.122.254.154 12-122-254-154.attens.net                 618      618     620     619      1                  0                                     
    15 63.241.193.22  mdf001c7613r0003-gig-12-1.dal1.attens.net 617      617     617     617      0                  0                          244        
    16 *              *                                                                                              0                                     
    
    default dns - 331ms
    
    HopIP             Hostname                                  last [ms]min [ms]max [ms]ava. [ms]var. [ms]total Lossperc. LossLatitudeLongitudeRTTLASN    
    1  59.93.192.1    59.93.192.1                               11       8       11      10       2                  0                          255 AS9829 
    2  218.248.255.10 218.248.255.10                            7        7       8       8        1                  0                          253        
    3  218.248.250.22 218.248.250.22                            47       47      48      48       1                  0                          253 AS9829 
    4  206.24.169.93  206.24.169.93                             290      290     290     290      0                  0                          61         
    5  204.70.192.5   cr1-pos-0-0-3-0.londonuk1.savvis.net      287      287     287     287      0                  0                          251        
    6  204.70.196.118 cr2-tengig-0-15-0-0.NewYork.savvis.net    289      289     289     289                         0                          252        
    7  204.70.198.18  er2-tengig-3-1.NewYork.savvis.net         290      288     290     289      1                  0                          251        
    8  192.205.36.185 192.205.36.185                            289      287     289     288      1                  0                          59         
    9  12.122.80.238  cr2.n54ny.ip.att.net                      337      332     337     334      3                  0                          32         
    10 12.122.3.38    cr2.wswdc.ip.att.net                      336      336     336     336      0                  0                                     
    11 12.122.1.173   cr1.attga.ip.att.net                      332      332     332     332      0                  0                                     
    12 12.122.28.174  cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net                      336      336     336     336      0                  0                          32         
    13 12.122.138.161 gar23.dlstx.ip.att.net                    335      335     335     335      0                  0                                     
    14 12.122.254.154 12-122-254-154.attens.net                 332      332     332     332      0                  0                                     
    15 63.241.193.18  mdf001c7613r0004-gig-10-1.dal1.attens.net 336      336     455     396      84                 0                          245        
    16 *              *                                                                                              0
    the same problem happens no matter what dns service I use - open dns, the default dns or google dns

    please help guys, most people post completely vague threads without much useful information and get a million replies, I've provided as much information as possible, any kind of advice would be really appreciated thanks ^_^

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    Default same crap here

    aloha rsen! we meet after a long time (i hope you remember me :S lol ). Unfortunately the "world class" service from BSNL has once again, brought me to this forum.

    My connection has been terrible lately and this morning, it's magnificently beyond horrible. My pings are greater than 500 ms to everywhere. How cool is that?

    Yes, they have doubled the speed. My download speeds and torrent speeds are upto 65 kilo bytes/s and ~56 Kilobytes/s (My plan is UL750) . But the browsing is totally bottled. It takes forever to open a page and most of the time everything just times out and the pages are just hung there half open. EVEN WITH GOOGLE. Not to mention, Airtel also has updated its speeds to double the previous but airtel users aren't facing this dial up browsing experience. I have not called BSNL because i know it's pointless. They don't know anything.

    Right now, as you can see i am ranting. I want to use really bad language too but i am controlling myself in the interest of this forum's clean environment.

    Thank you for reading this rant. And how are you rsen? i hope you and your family are doing well. Cheers!

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    i'm thinking of switching to a different ISP, but since Airtel also uses the same rubbish bharti routing I probably won't take that.

    I guess I should look into tata or reliance.

    another morning, another round of shitty latency and packet loss :

    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=358ms TTL=239
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=361ms TTL=239
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=358ms TTL=239
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=357ms TTL=239
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=351ms TTL=239
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=356ms TTL=239
    Request timed out.
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=354ms TTL=239
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=361ms TTL=239
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=362ms TTL=239
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=356ms TTL=239
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=360ms TTL=239
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=362ms TTL=239
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=359ms TTL=239
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=357ms TTL=239
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=354ms TTL=239
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=355ms TTL=239
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=356ms TTL=239
    Request timed out.
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=364ms TTL=239
    Reply from 63.241.193.18: bytes=32 time=361ms TTL=239



    I'm not sure when or how this torture will end
    Last edited by rsen; 04-18-10 at 09:07 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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