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    I am 1 day into my new BSNL connection and am here to give you a first hand review of my experience. This whole review is divided into 4 main parts:

    1. Application
    2. Installation
    3. Experience
    4. Summary

    1. Application:

    Well the application process is very simple. You need to go to your nearest exchange and collect a free application form. This same form is available online too but the quality of printout is very poor. There is an option of online submission of application and unlike popular belief, this system still works (well in principal at least). I first applied online and within 2 days I received a call from BSNL asking me to come over to the office and submit the application manually. So I can say that atleast the online system works.

    There was an exchange just 500 meters away from my place and that is where I collected my form and went to submit. But they told me that my number does not fall into their area and I needed to go to an exchange about 2 km from my place just to submit the form. So keep this in mind while submitting your application. Your exchange information is usually printed on your phone bill. They asked me to bring along a previous telephone bill, but did not even have a look at it when i submitted the application. My advice, bring it with you - just in case.

    The lady asked me if I wanted the connection on a new line or on an existing line. I, for one, have my PC in a separate room. So I preferred a new line but she told "In that case you need to wait at least 15 days for the new line to be installed and then you can have broadband." I was in urgent need of connectivity and so opted for connection on my existing line after her assurances that the lineman will do the necessary wiring to my room.

    The submission was relatively very easy. I handed over the form to the lady, she asked me about the modem I wanted. I specifically mentioned that I wanted a type 4 modem. She told me that it was not available and so suggested a type 2 modem (you can check the differences b/w them by visiting the BSNL website). Since I had no choice, I opted for that and paid the 1872 bucks for the modem as outright purchase option (I prefer to purchase over monthly rent). She then did some clicking on her PC and told me that my phone line is active for internet use but I need to wait for the modem (router) to arrive at my place. I asked her about a rough time frame when I can expect the delivery. She said "about 10-15 days" and handed me over a printout of the bill.

    That was the end of application.

    2. Installation:

    Barely 3 days after my visit, I had 2 ppl deliver the modem to my place in the evening. I was surprised to find such a speedy service by BSNL. These ppl were supposedly the technical dept guys and sat at my place for about 30 minutes explaining the benefits of BSNL (for crying out loud, I already know it). After reading through the posts at indiabroadband I did inquire if I can later shift my connection to my nearby exchange as it might provide me better speeds. His reply "Well there is no need for that, as I am sure you will get decent speeds with this exchange too. Plus if you shift to another exchange, your phone number will change".

    They left soon enough after providing me with the contact information of the lineman who would come to my place the next day to complete the wiring. That was really nice, I thought.

    The next day I waited up to 3 PM and then called that number to inquire if they planned to come that day. Unfortunately their schedule was tight and they rescheduled me to the next day. I thought this could go for ever. The next day, however, they did turn up. They asked me where I want the line to be installed. After reviewing the place, they told me that I'll need some extra wiring and they needed 300 bucks for materials. I knew that BSNL provides free wiring and they were asking for a bribe but after going through the delay experienced by a few members of indiabroadband, I decided it was not worth the wait. So I paid them 300 bucks and they started working (after going out for a few minutes to make me think that they're away to purchase the wiring).

    I must say they did work pretty hard as I am not a person easily pleased. I asked them to make sure that none of the wiring should remain open. Everything must be concealed. It took them nearly 2 hours to do the work which usually takes only 10-15 minutes but they did not complain (I guess I can attribute it to the 300 bucks I paid them). So finally they provided me with the contact information of some guy who will come to my place for the configuration of the modem.

    Interestingly 30 min after they left, I got a call from the configuration guy to check if he can come over in 10-15 min. He turned up after 1 hour (but I'm not complaining) and it took no more than 5 minutes to configure the router. He showed me how to check my usage and he was off. So my connection was up and running

    3. Experience:

    Well the speeds sure was fast as far as the daytime browsing is concerned. I got decent speeds and almost all the web pages opened in a second. I did a speed test at DSL reports and the results are as follows



    DL speeds = 500 kbps approx
    UL speeds = 250 kbps approx

    So the speeds were sufficient.

    The only thing I did not like about BSNL the dataone usage page. It requires only IE to function properly. That was a shock for a firm supporter of open source software like me. I had to install IE core and used a IE render plugin in Firefox to open the page. Nevertheless, I had to install IE. I run on a dual boot PC with XP and Ubuntu and I couldn't figure out how to check my usage on ubuntu as it only has Firfox by default and I cant install IE core on linux. So any suggestions are welcome for that aspect.

    I know that downloads can be scheduled to use the night unlimited bandwidth but since it was my first night of testing, I was awake till 2AM yesterday and added my first torrent download to utorrent. I was totally shocked by the download speeds. A paltry 5KBps (i.e. about 40kbps). I thought maybe it was just the beginning and so I went to sleep and this morning I checked my downloads - the results are not that encouraging

    Total time = 6 hours 0 min
    Total Downloaded = 120MB
    Total Uploaded = 15.9 MB
    Avg Download speed = 5.7 KBps
    Avg Upload speed = 0.7 KBps ( I actually limited my UL speeds to 1KBps )

    The torrent cannot be at fault because there were more than 50 seeds and 78 lechers (It is a very popular game). However I cannot rule out the possibility that torrent might be choked... Or there could be an issue with a software firewall that I am using. So tonight I will try it with another torrent download (ubuntu linux distribution) with the software firewall disabled and see if the speeds still suck.

    After this shocking incident I checked my data usage and was in for another treat. At 1.20AM in the night my data usage was about 4MB, followed by "unlimited download" of 120 MB, my PC automatically shut down at 8AM. But my data usage is something like this

    Unlimited usage = 12MB approx (as BSNL give usage in the format of 0.012 GB)
    Total chargeable usage = 35MB (including UL and DL)

    This calculation makes no sense. It seems that their system is flawed and I am taking no risks today. I will program my PC to turn on at 2.15 AM and shut down at 7.50AM to be on the safer side of the spectrum and will let you know if this tactic works.

    4. Summary:

    To summarize my experience, BSNL does provide fast internet access during the daytime and is suitable for most novice users who rely on using the internet for communication purposes. However, if you are a heavy downloader, like me, give it a thought cause you might land up in a tight situation. I can give you a final summary only tomorrow morning because by that time I would have surely ascertained whether my abysmal DL sppeds are due to a faulty torrent or a sloggy connection.

    I hope this helps for all those users who plan to apply for BSNL experience
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    u are getting around around 1mbps in u r NIGHT UNLIMITED suck!!!! MAN this MTNL SUCKS!!!!! ( only 256mbpsin NU)....

    NE WAYS ENJOY

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    Lightbulb Your Solution.

    I registered on this forum so that i could help u out (And was bored of counterstrike)
    Ok So Ur Your Solution: Jus put your upload speed to "Unlimited".
    Explaination: See the torrent apps unlike other p2p apps like limewire or morpheous are much better designed.Even i thought uploading was a waste of bandwidth if not downloading from a private tracker (like demonoid) so i reduced my upload speed to 5Kbps.What happens? My download simultaneously drops down to bout 8Kpbs ...So put upload speed to unlimited and report back with the results...Cheers

    *GURVIN*


    P.S. - I saw the results of your speed test...Those speeds are in KiloBYTES or KiloBITS?

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    Thanks...

    Lemme see if setting the UL speeds back to unlimited sorts things out... I was just paranoid about BSNL miscalculating my bandwidth usage. Let's see how this turns out to be.

    Yes the speeds are in Kilo bits per sec (kbps). The std format for writing speeds is

    kBps = kilo bytes per sec
    kbps = kilo bits per sec

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    5 days into my connection and I have found a few new pointers which might help you...

    1. Torrent Downloads

    If you are a heavy torrent downloader, then there is some bad news for you. BSNL connection does not seem to work with security measures like ZoneAlarm firewall and PeerGuardian. With these two applications running on your PC, your download speeds may come down to as low as 5KBps or even less (as I found out over the last 2 days).

    If you disable these security measures, then the connection speeds are decent and you will get avg download speeds of upto 100KBps in torrents.

    2. Data Usage page

    The dataone portal which lets you check your usage is quite confusing... I do not understand a thing by the way they display your usage. Take the image below for example. It shows my data usage for yesterday night. My connection was active from 1.45AM to 8.01AM in the morning. and I downloaded about 1.7GB in that interval of which about 30 MB was b/w 1.45AM and 2AM... So technically I should be charged only 30MB and the rest should go into the unlimited bandwidth. But the way I interpret my usage charges is that they charged 129MB in unlimited usage and the rest as chargeable data. If this is true then I'll have to limit my usage for the next 29 days as I have only 500 MB left.



    If anyone can make any sense of the above data and finds that my findings are incorrect, then please guide me - How should I interpret the data usage charts?

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    I did some digging in and found a very surprising fact which I'd like to share with you guys...

    BSNL has 2 portal IP's where you can check your data usage. Apparently both display the same information with a few words present or absent but these words make a whole lot of difference in the meaning of the sentence.

    The following is my data usage chart from yesterday night as seen in both the portals

    10.240.225.195



    10.240.16.195



    As you can see just a word "Excluding" is missing but it makes a whole lot of difference in the sense of the whole sentence. I'd recommend that you use the 10.240.16.195 portal to check your data usage.

    I hope you guys find this info useful. It just saved my day.

    Cheers
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    thnx for the gr8 infomation vzx...i m airtel home 699 user..migret BSNLhome 500 plan soon..also havy torrent user.. plz tell me how to disable "ZoneAlarm firewall and PeerGuardian"..

    thnx in advance..
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    Un-install them or don't run them while downloading torrents... as simple as that....

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    A few diggs would be much appreciated : Digg - BSNL Experience/Review

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    for checking usage on linux
    use this link http://10.240.144.195/nonie_webLogin.jsp


    and this
    Data One Broadband Statistics
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    IE
    if u r running debian testing or ubuntu get ies4linux.it will automatically install for you M$ internet explorer 6sp1 or even IE7.but you should make sure you have the latest WINE installed.or follow the instructions on their site and add wine latest to ur /etc/apt/sources.list;below is the link for ies4linux.
    Main Page - IEs4Linux
    pls try to read the small howtos available on above sites and configure.scripts can be run as "./foobar" if scripts are set executable.read more on the site!Enjoy GNU/Linux

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    Quote Originally Posted by vzx View Post
    Un-install them or don't run them while downloading torrents... as simple as that....
    Does Norton Internet Security 2007 causes any problem for the torrent.

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    I have no Idea about Norton. Never used that application as it is one big piece of crap. A total resource hog... Currently I rely only on Nod32 Anti-virus to protect my PC. I am experimenting with different firewall apps to check out which works well with BSNL - But I am never even gonna install norton on my system.

    P.S. - I will be checking only open source applications and will let you know ASAP if anything works

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    these are my speeds at 2.30 am !

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    Quote Originally Posted by vzx View Post
    I have no Idea about Norton. Never used that application as it is one big piece of crap. A total resource hog... Currently I rely only on Nod32 Anti-virus to protect my PC. I am experimenting with different firewall apps to check out which works well with BSNL - But I am never even gonna install norton on my system.

    P.S. - I will be checking only open source applications and will let you know ASAP if anything works
    You are wrong my friend, norton 2007 is not a resource hog. There was problems with its earlier versions.I am using Norton Internet security 2007 180 days trial, i have also tried nod 32 but i can bet norton antivirus takes less resource to run. And the good news is there is no problem with torrents. Try norton 2007 youself and you will thank me, bless me everytime you use it.

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    Let's not turn this post entry into a war of words as to which AV and firewall application is the best. For me, Nod32 works - It is, perhaps, the only original software I've purchased in my life. I rely on open source software for most of my needs and I'll find an alternative firewall pretty soon.

    Peace... :P

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    Zone alarm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vzx View Post
    Let's not turn this post entry into a war of words as to which AV and firewall application is the best. For me, Nod32 works - It is, perhaps, the only original software I've purchased in my life. I rely on open source software for most of my needs and I'll find an alternative firewall pretty soon.

    Peace... :P
    got it, peace it is.

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    At last... The third world war is over

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    Very Good extn for FF. Thanks.
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    Hi,

    Awesome article.

    I am using Airtel 256.. No doubt its awesome service but I am really gone mad with 32 Kbps Speeds... while BSNL gives above 200 Kbps..

    Can any one tel me how much speed do u get from Rapidshare ??

    Oh yeah.. You can download this tool too

    http://duf.sourceforge.net

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    ^ Now BSNL is trying to give upto 2Mbps download speed
    for its Dataone home plans ( not to the home unlimited ) .
    Dataone Home 500 plan has unlimited hours 2 - 8 A.M.
    And we can get good downloading speeds { personally ,
    I have no experience with downloading from Rapidshare } .

    On Nero's FTP site , I got about 1Mbps download speed .

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    As I mentioned earlier... the DL speeds are extremely great. I get 180 kBps almost everyday b/w 2AM to 8AM with FTP, HTTP and P2P (torrent) protocols. So hats off to BSNL

    There are many usage applications floating around and I'm sure you must have taken great pains to create another one. Congratulations to you too. Personally I only use the Fx extension because it is really handy and does not require a separate installation (i.e. exe file). For all that matters to me is that my total monthly bandwidth should not exceed the 2.5 GB quota. I dont see how daily usage details will help out. Other's may differ in opinions and we're not here to declare war - So I end by saying "keep up the good work" and support the open source community.

    OK now coming to rapidshare issue:

    I've noticed 2 things:

    1). BSNL's dynamic IP's change very rapidly - so on a good note you DL one file off rapidshare and chances are that your IP will change immediately and you can DL another file instantly.... no need to wait for the download queue

    2). On the other side, because the IP's change rapidly, larger downloads ( >200MB) which take 30 min or more to DL may be affected because your IP will change and rapidshare will terminate the connection. This occurs rarely, but I have noticed it happen 3-4 times with me

    Cheers
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    ^ regarding rapidshare issue :

    BSNL's dynamic IP changes from session to session .
    that is once connected , the provided IP address remains
    untill we disconnect and reconnect . Generally BSNL users
    disconnect and connect again after each huge download
    from rapidshare and other similar sites so that they can
    get the downloads without restrictions . ( This process is
    automated ... )

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    Hi,
    Can any DataOne user help me to clear confusion regarding billing procedure? Does BSNL count one month time period for free data usage based on the installation date or in calender month? For example, if my bb is installed on 25th March then when the one month period will be completed.My free 1GB data usage will be completed on 24th April or on 31st March.If it is completed on 31st March then what is the procedure as I'm using only 10days & paying for the whole month.Customer Care couldn't answer to this question.

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    For the installed month pro-rata basis is used for the data limits
    and billing . And from the next month onwards , users will get
    billing and data limits for the calander month ( 1st day - Last day ) .

    that is to say , if BSNL Broadband installed on 25th March then
    the free data limit for the remaining month is that of 7 days
    ( 7 * total data limit / 31 ) . Billing will also be for 7 days only .
    And from the next month usual billing for each calander month ...

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