Thread: Why Not Count in KiloBytes??

Hello Guys,

Why these ISPs count the bandwidth in kilobits and not kilobytes??
Whereas they count the usage in Kilobytes...

That's quite unfair....

Either count both in kilobits or in kilobytes...

If they will count the usage in kilobits..we will get 8 times more data
--------------------------------------OR--------------------------------------------
If they will count bandwidth in kilobytes we will get 8 times speed

What do you want guys out of the two?

Common TRAI wake up....it has been a long time since you slept

lulzz...trolololol..

I think Sarvesh raised this very issue... Admin must send his name for the Bharat Ratna.. + he is from youth so we can make good vote bank for 2014 elections if we create a political party..

over & 73!

Thanks a ton mickey

Marketing strategies - the number sounds more impressive in bits per second (it is eight times bigger). Also there are historical reasons involved in that historically, signaling speeds were measured in "baud" and the number of baud occurs extensively in calculations involving such things as signaling bandwidth, signal to noise ratio, error rates etc., and 1 baud happens to be equal to 1 bit per second, hence it is convenient to measure signaling speeds in bits per second. . On the other hand when measuring memory capacity or designing / specifying memory systems, memory is expanded by doubling things up and a group of 8 memory locations was historically very convenient since 4 locations ( 4 bits or a "nybble") was not enough to uniquely store all the alphanumeric characters required for a functional character set, but 8 storage locations (8 bits or a "byte") was enough to uniquely represent the full range of characters in for example the 127 character "ASCII" character set, together with a simple "parity" error checking bit. . Thus bytes have proved convenient in specifying memory capacity and file size, whereas bits per second have proved more relevant to engineers working on data signaling problems. . -- Best wishes - Majikthise. .

Source Google search the Web

That was a long explanation essbebe...

But do we need to care about it???

Atleast our ISPs should give us one reason to be happy...

^^ dude first of all (as esbebbe already mentioned) its by computer structure.. things that happened in bauds..

so they have fixed it as a measurement protocol.. just like sms couldn't be more than 160 characters.. its all for business.. we never care bits, bytes is the juice of information for us..

Actually these ISPs are fooling us by cleverly using the magic of bits and bytess.....

Originally Posted by sarveshmotihari

Actually these ISPs are fooling us by cleverly using the magic of bits and bytess.....

now from here, we move from "on context of thread" to "trolling"..

Do a simple calculation:
a 2 Mbps connection and 2MBps connection
download approx 256KB/sec and 2 MB/sec
download " 15MB/min 120MB/min
" 900MB/hour 7200MB/hour.
' say 10 hours 9 GB 72 GB ( ONe day !!)
Megaupload has been shut. other torrent sites are in queue !
You can download only desi Bollywood Movies !!!

I have a 2 Mbps u/l connection FUP 8GB then 512 Kbps
i have used 6 GB till tonight( Includes Skype Video/voip in weekends )

Think of the changes required in system / modem router / VDSL Ffth etc .

i dont think they are fooling. whether they show it in kb or KB your speed will remain same

@maxsteel has a point.
Try a net meter and see the speed when you browse some web sites. or download applications from different servers. d/l speed is not constant.

What ever your speed , do you want to d/l at approx 2 Mbps speed ?
Try motive Bsnl site for a short duration. D/L Not counted.
Do not try Firmware upgrades !!!!

Application Networx has a speed meter ( start/ stop)

Originally Posted by maxsteel

i dont think they are fooling. whether they show it in kb or KB your speed will remain same

I am not saying to show the speeds in kb or KB.

What i am saying is to give the bandwidth in KB...and not in kb(Which means 8 times more bandwidth)

--------------------------------OR-------------------------

Count the amount of data used in kb(Which means 8 times more data)

MEASURE BOTH BANDWIDTH AND DATA IN THE SAME UNIT AND NOT IN DIFFERENT UNITS..

Originally Posted by essbebe

@maxsteel has a point.
Try a net meter and see the speed when you browse some web sites. or download applications from different servers. d/l speed is not constant.

What ever your speed , do you want to d/l at approx 2 Mbps speed ?
Try motive Bsnl site for a short duration. D/L Not counted.
Do not try Firmware upgrades !!!!

Application Networx has a speed meter ( start/ stop)

Unable to understand you essbebe. I am not saying that i am getting low speeds.

MEASURE BOTH BANDWIDTH AND DATA IN THE SAME UNIT AND NOT IN DIFFERENT UNITS.

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Why not in usual font? Why block lettters ?
Give a reason why units both should be same for Speed & DATA ?

Don't by pass previous post/s. if no comments, it means you understand the reason why bits and Bytes are used !!!

2.
I have quoted some reason why they are different after a Google
search, and selected the simplest explanation.

You should also marshal facts / study and then post comments..

3.
Subject is not of interest to many users, and I normally post only one or two posts on any subject, and thread starter if interested should do further research/ give more reasons.
PS:
Did you understand @mickey's "over &73's" ???

b stands for bit and B stands for byte. In the context of data rate units, one byte refers to 8 bits. For example, when a 1 Mbps connection is advertised, it usually means that the maximum achievable download bandwidth is 1 megabit/s (million bits per second), which is actually 0.125 MB/s (megabyte per second), or about 0.1192 MiB/s (mebibyte per second).

source: wikipedia

hi

Why they publish prices like 2.99, 10.98 ??

this is the same reason to publish big nr

bigger is better

daniel