Thread: Solution for multiple machines connecting to same BB connection

Hi people,

This is my 300th post!!

In this new guide, I am outlining step by step methods to create a wireless network at home and the "Solution for multiple machines connecting to same BB connection".

Hope this will help a lot of people.

just4kix.

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thanks bro for ur time for making this guide to help others

Originally Posted by just4kix

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Originally Posted by Admin

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No problem.

Thanks a lot bro.
I solved my prblm by ur guide and now pc by RJ-45 and laptop by wifi r connected.
And my BB connection was ok already there was just authentication failure and i finded out by ur guide thanks alot bro

To those of you who are unable to get to the 'Wizard' option.

Please do the following:

1. Login to the router page http://192.168.1.1 or http://192.168.1.2
2. Click on the 'WAN' button.
3. Manually enter the following settings:

For Bridging
ATM Interface: PVC-0
VPI: 0
VCI: 35
Virtual Circuit: Enabled
WAN Settings: Bridge Mode
Connection Type: 1483 Bridged IP LLC

For PPPoE
ATM Interface: PVC-0
VPI: 0
VCI: 35
Virtual Circuit: Enabled
WAN Settings: PPPoE/PPPoA
Username: <your ISP username>
Password: <your password>
Connection Type: PPPoE LLC
MRU: 1492
Authentication: PAP
Obtain DNS Automatically: Enabled
Default Route: Enabled
NAT: Enabled
IGMP: Disabled

Please find the revoised guide attached - the 2nd attachment. Thanks to 'admin' for updating the same.

hey thanx for your reply!!!!!!!!!!! Can u send ur guide to me on <dhruvpatel4u@yahoo.co.in>

Originally Posted by dhruvpatel4u

hey thanx for your reply!!!!!!!!!!! Can u send ur guide to me on ...

The guide is attached right on the first post of the mail (attachment # 2).

Also, I advise you not to post your email id on the forum as you may be spammed.

Thanks !! That was a wonderful tutorial.

my id is surajshenoy91@yahoo.co.in

I have a WA3002G4 modem.. I am not able to use both wireless and LAN simultaneously.. Only either of hem work at a time... Plz help me

THanks Man. IT worked

Hello, I have a ZTE modem, ZXDSL831AII and wireless router from ProNET (IP 192.168.0.31) . I have 10 wired computers, IP 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.10 and 3 wireless laptops, IP 192.168.0.21 to 192.168.0.23. How can I connect all of these. How to backup the ZTE data first in case I mess up something. In fact I started a new post for this problem,
http://www.indiabroadband.net/bsnl-b...aii-modem.html

can I use your guide for this modem and router?

Please see my post on your thread.

I have a Tata Indicomm Broadband Connection of 512KBPS. I run a cyber cafe.

Right now i have connected the Direct Broadband connection to 1 computer and sharing the net connection with other computers with the help of CCproxy software.

Let me know how should i use a router to share the connection between all the computers.

Hello, I will try to help from the tips I have received on this forum.
I assume you have a modem from Tata and the settings are already done in this so that the connection is always on. LAN Ip address of modem is most likely 192.168.1.1. We move forward with this assumption.
The modem has 2 IP addresses, one external, which may be set automatically by Tata or they may have given you a static IP address to input. In any case, this is not to be fiddlewith. The modem will also have a option of DHCP server, so that it can assign LAN IP's automatically. This can be turned off.
Now remove the modem and connect the router to any computer to configure it. This will most likely have a LAN IP address as 192.168.1.1 hence both the router and Modem cannot be connected at the same time yet. Change the LAN IP address of router to a different series, say 192.168.2.1. This same series is to be used for computers on the LAN. If you change this and reboot you may not be able to access the router from the computer if it has a static IP address of 192.168.1.x. This has to be changed to 192.168.2.x series. Then again you can access the router config. Now in router WAN, make the IP address as 192.168.1.2, same series as modem. Put the gateway as 192.168.1.1 and DNS server as 192.168.1.1, both pointing to the modem.
Now connect the modem to the internet port of the router. You should be able to access the modem also now from the computer.
In short, the modem has WAN ip assigned automatically or as given by your ISP, the LAN IP is 192.168.1.1. The router WAN IP is 192.168.1.2 and LA Ip is 192.168.2.1 and gateway/DNS1 are 192.168.1.1. The computers on the network need to have IP 192.168.2.x and gateway/dns1 as 192.168.2.1, poiting to the router.
I hope you get the general idea. This should work. I have assumed you understand how to access the modem config and you can change the settings. Hope this helps, else you can consult just4kix, he has a very good knowledge of this it seems.

thanx man nice information

You are welcome.

can't a type I modem and a switch be used to connect 2 pcs via wires (creating a Y connection) ?

justforkix,
thanks so much for your guides. I still havent run/executed them yet, but I had a few preliminary questions...

I have a BSNL broadband connection on a huawei modem. I tried running the linksys wizard to set up the connection, but it was unsuccessful in connecting to the internet post the config.

I've gone through your guides and my questions are as follows:

1. you mention a username and password, but I doubt I have these, unless I have missed something somewhere. My BSNL connection is always on,

IP: 192.168.1.41
gateway: 192.168.1.1

dns: 61.1.96.69
dns2: 61.1.96.71

ive never been asked for a password, and even when I want to connect my wired connection to any other computer apart from my desktop, I just have to plug the above ip's and dns' in and I am ready to use. Do I have a different sort of connection? or do I also have a username and password, and if so how do I dig it out?

2. while using the linksys wizard, it asked me for the type of connection, so I took staticIP and put in all of the above. Post this it was not able to connect, (since the IPs etc are local I guess) so technically if it isnt static, what type of connection is it?

I will run your guides when I am home later, but would greatly appreciate a response to these questions, thanks!

Originally Posted by alapjb

1. you mention a username and password, but I doubt I have these, unless I have missed something somewhere. My BSNL connection is always on,

IP: 192.168.1.41
gateway: 192.168.1.1

dns: 61.1.96.69
dns2: 61.1.96.71

ive never been asked for a password, and even when I want to connect my wired connection to any other computer apart from my desktop, I just have to plug the above ip's and dns' in and I am ready to use. Do I have a different sort of connection? or do I also have a username and password, and if so how do I dig it out?

If you are refering to BSNL username/password (and you have never changed the password), then the password should be 'password' (without quotes). Since you are in always on mode, you are connected in PPPoE mode. The username should be visible in your modem settings. Some modems donot even bother to mask the password.

Originally Posted by alapjb

2. while using the linksys wizard, it asked me for the type of connection, so I took staticIP and put in all of the above. Post this it was not able to connect, (since the IPs etc are local I guess) so technically if it isnt static, what type of connection is it?

I will run your guides when I am home later, but would greatly appreciate a response to these questions, thanks!

Do not use the Linksys Wizard program. It does not work in India. Go for manual setup just as I have explained in my two guides. Since your Huawei modem (I call it hawa-hawai ) is in PPPoE mode, setup the Linksys router in Automatic DHCP (or bridge) mode. Just follow the guide and it should work.

ok justforkix, I tried your guide out "multiple connections primer (updated)", but did not work :-(

my PPPoE was already set up, so I set up DHCP server on my huawei... then set up the linksys to accept automatic configuration - DHCP, but to know avail

in the end when I click status, there are a few marked differences from the screenshot you have put in...

Firmware Version: v7.00.1 May.4, 2006 (Same)
Current Time: Not Available (NOT SAME)
Router Name: WRT54G (same)
Host Name: <Blank> (same)
Domain Name: <blank> (same)

Login Type: Automatic Configuration - DHCP (same)
IP Address: 192.168.1.3 (same)
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 (same)
Default Gateway: 0.0.0.0 (NOT SAME)
DNS1: <blank> (NOT SAME)
DNS2: <blank> (same)
DNS3: <blank) (same)
MTU: 1500 (same)

I've followed the instructions to a T, so I think there might be some mess up in huawei, since its different from UT-300R2U, i am posting some screenshots here, hope u can identify whats wrong...

thanks so much

screenshot1:

screenshot 2:

screenshot 3:

Originally Posted by alapjb

Default Gateway: 0.0.0.0 (NOT SAME)

From your note above, it is quite clear that Huawei and Linksys are not connected. Otherwise you should get the default gateway as 192.168.1.1 (or the same internal IP address as that of Huawei ADSL modem).

What is the internal IP address of your Huawei ADSL modem router? And what the internal IP address of the Linksys router? Both need to be different. For example, if the IP addr of Huawei ADSL modem router is 192.168.1.1, then the Linksys router must be on a different sub-net, say 192.168.2.1.

DHCP must be set to ON on both devices.

THAT WAS IT!! Thank you so much!!

Justforkix I really appreciate all the help youve given me. Fantastic Guide, and Fantastic Follow up, You are the best!!!

Also would like to thank India Broadband, its great we have such a fantastic forum, with so many likeminded people to help us out. Thanks you so much!

No problem, friend. Usually a small error/missout happens but that results in total failure.

Dear Justforkix,
one more question... when my ADSL used to connect to my desktop straight, the following IP's were used for the modem

IP: 192.168.1.41
Mask: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: 192.168.1.1

DNS: 61.1.96.69
DNS2: 61.1.96.71

these have not been put into the router config or anything. And I notice that everytime the power blows, once the router re-connects I am not able to access the internet, till I take my laptop (which is using the above IP's for LAN settings), connect my laptop to the ethernet coming out of the ADSL modem, and then once the connection is working on the laptop, connect the ethernet cable back into the assigned 'internet' port of the linksys router.

I have a feeling the loss of connectivity is because the DNS's are not in the router config... what shud I do about this? please let me know, thanks

ok I also just checked... PVC-0 has gone red when I log into the modem...

I dont know what exactly is causing this...

more bad news, the entire set up has totally stopped working...

PVC-0 as I said has gone red, there is a CRC error on the upstream of 2239, and some 8 on the downstream...

I have no idea what is causing this since nothing has changed since yesterday

one power cut came, i just restarted the modems and it was working fine, after the second one I've restarted and nothing has happened.

also on checking the router, the default gateway has gone back 0.0.0.0

justforkix, would really appreciate your help, thanks

hi

i have a wa3002 g1 router connected to broadband and i am able to connect my desktop (winXP,LAN) and my laptop (vista,wireless) simultaneously .
I am also able to see my PC i.e my laptop is able to identify my PC , as the it is a router , but i am not able to interconnect or access one from the other ,
when i try to access , vista gives me an error that its not able to access my Pc and the problem is ith my ISP .

can any one give me any info about bringing a wired and wireless devices using a wa3002 router . i have tried every option available in the router


just4kix your document was enlighting but could not serve my requirment , any suggestions as this will solve my multiple data storage problems.

Originally Posted by alapjb

more bad news, the entire set up has totally stopped working...

PVC-0 as I said has gone red, there is a CRC error on the upstream of 2239, and some 8 on the downstream...

I have no idea what is causing this since nothing has changed since yesterday

one power cut came, i just restarted the modems and it was working fine, after the second one I've restarted and nothing has happened.

also on checking the router, the default gateway has gone back 0.0.0.0

justforkix, would really appreciate your help, thanks

Your settings could have been lost or corrupted. You could start over by reseting both the devices.

Originally Posted by lakkuMS

hi

i have a wa3002 g1 router connected to broadband and i am able to connect my desktop (winXP,LAN) and my laptop (vista,wireless) simultaneously .
I am also able to see my PC i.e my laptop is able to identify my PC , as the it is a router , but i am not able to interconnect or access one from the other ,
when i try to access , vista gives me an error that its not able to access my Pc and the problem is ith my ISP .

can any one give me any info about bringing a wired and wireless devices using a wa3002 router . i have tried every option available in the router


just4kix your document was enlighting but could not serve my requirment , any suggestions as this will solve my multiple data storage problems.

Add both machines to a workgroup. After that you would be able to see both machines in "my network places".

the DNS entries dont need to be put anywhere tho?

DNS entries are optional. If you donot put them anywhere, they will default to those provided by BSNL. Else you can use OpenDNS settings - which are much better that BSNL's DNS.

p/s This four weeks, I am in USA. I am getting rocking speeds. Man, I am green with envy/jealousy.

hi ,

i tried the one you said ,
i have given the WORK GROUP as WORKGROUP for both the systems and as i said i can view both the systems in the other PC but when i double click on the icon , it tries to conect to the system and says 192.168.1.33 is not available

hi,

My subscriber has opted for a static IP which was provided by BSNL as he wanted it for his office network and now he wants me to configure it.
How can i configure the Static IP in the UT300r2u modem and how is that useful in a network

I will not be able to help you right now because I am not at my home but I am traveling (in US for 4 weeks).

UT300R2U has a static option mode. Using the Wizard, you should select this option. This is the third screen after clicking the 'Run Wizard' button.

Static IP is most useful when you wish to do hosting services or implement your own web server.

Hi Buddy,
Gotta a problem with router...
i am not so aware of the router technology...
currently I am using BSNL home plan 250 with 5 PC's.....
i am using adsl d-link router....
Is it possible i can connect my adsl router to switch and coonect internet to other PC's and not use PC to dial up everytime.... currenlty we are using dial up on one PC and sharing the Internet connection through that PC....
what else do you suggest if I dont want to dial up thru PC and share the connection....
Your reply will be highly appreciated.

Regards
ranjitraut@gmail.com

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Originally Posted by ranjitraut

Hi Buddy,
Gotta a problem with router...
i am not so aware of the router technology...
currently I am using BSNL home plan 250 with 5 PC's.....
i am using adsl d-link router....
Is it possible i can connect my adsl router to switch and coonect internet to other PC's and not use PC to dial up everytime.... currenlty we are using dial up on one PC and sharing the Internet connection through that PC....
what else do you suggest if I dont want to dial up thru PC and share the connection....
Your reply will be highly appreciated.

Regards

Absolutely. You can connect a switch to the ADSL router and thus create a small network. You must configure the ADSL modem/router in PPPoE mode so that you will not have to dial anymore. Once ADSL modem is in PPPoE mode, it will dial itself and keep a permanent connection. After that you can get rid of dialer in your main PC (which is having the shared internet connection). Connect all PCs to the switch and each will be on internet.

Hey just4kix,
hope your US trip is going well... I tried what you said, brought both modems back to factory settings, and configured them again. I even got the PVC-0 to connect again, but there is no changing the default gateway from 0.0.0.0 unfortunately
:-(

one more thing while experimenting I noticed is that, if I add the cable from my ADSL into the router, but NOT in the internet port, the router works fine and my desktop can access the internet... However I cannot acces 192.168.2.1 (router) from my desktop, and in addition my laptop doesnt connect to the internet...

would that give you any clue as to why the set up isnt working anymore? do let me know, thanks (DHCP is enabled both places)

Originally Posted by just4kix

Absolutely. You can connect a switch to the ADSL router and thus create a small network. You must configure the ADSL modem/router in PPPoE mode so that you will not have to dial anymore. Once ADSL modem is in PPPoE mode, it will dial itself and keep a permanent connection. After that you can get rid of dialer in your main PC (which is having the shared internet connection). Connect all PCs to the switch and each will be on internet.

Thanx for the info buddy...
can u provide me config details for UT Starcom router - UT300r2U if possible....
hows ur trip to US....
Take Care

Originally Posted by ranjitraut

Thanx for the info buddy...
can u provide me config details for UT Starcom router - UT300r2U if possible....
hows ur trip to US....
Take Care

For configuring UT-300R2U in PPPoE mode, refer to the guide attached in this thread (1st post).

is it possible me to upload ur given file my adsl having model of wifi

Originally Posted by just4kix

For configuring UT-300R2U in PPPoE mode, refer to the guide attached in this thread (1st post).

How do i find working US proxies and use them....

Hi,
i followed all the steps for configuring the smartax mt 841 modem and succussfully connected to the net with my laptop thru wifi. Utorrent works fine with both LAn and wifi but am unable to surf the net thru internet explorer using either.
Please help

Check and remove IE proxy settings, if any.

That was a dns problem. Set the dns server to opendns. now it works thanks to superprash2003

hey bro,
Thankx a lot for your post this really helps!!!!

You are all welcome.

Originally Posted by just4kix

Hi people,

This is my 300th post!!

In this new guide, I am outlining step by step methods to create a wireless network at home and the "Solution for multiple machines connecting to same BB connection".

Hope this will help a lot of people.

just4kix.

Thanks!

Hi kix, I have a zyxel P-600 modem/router for my DSL connection. I bought a linksys wired router (BEFSR) to be able to share my internet connection and as I was told, I do not need to configure the modem (which is initially in bridge mode) I only need to connect it to the linksys router and setup the DHCP and its all set. I did those and it worked, however, the internet connection would go on limited connectivity after some period of time and whenever that happened I had to restart the computers sharing the internet connection to be able to get a new working internet connection. It was like that until I changed the modem settings to routing mode and used a static IP in the linksys router. Up until now I am using double routing and the internet connection is ok except that Im having problems with regard to port issues since also need to double port forward which is a big hassle. How do I share my internet with the DSL modem in bridge mode?

@wormz, what do you mean by double port forwarding?

If you wish to have ICS, then you must do the following:

a) Setup zyxel and linksys routers in bridge mode
b) There should be one primary computer connected to the linksys router
c) The internet connection on this primary computer must be shared.
d) all other pc will connect to internet through the primary computer's intenet connection
e) All other PCs will be able to surf internet only as long as the primary computer is connected to internet.

No kix, i dont want to have one computer to act as server. is it possible for my zyxel to be in bridge mode and my linksys would share the internet through its 4 ports?

Right now my setup is like that but both the zyxel modem/router is in routing mode so im using double routing. I can portforward in linksys but won't pass through zyxel bcoz I dont know how to portforward there as well.

Double portforwarding.. I read that in some forum which said that its ok to use double routers but the downside is that you also have to double portforward ports to get through both router firewalls.

@wormz, If you wish your setup to be like what you have mentioned, then please do the following:

a) Zyxel modem/router in bridge mode
b) Linksys wired router in PPPoE mode (username/password stored inside the router configuration) and dialing automatically
c) Assign static IP addresses to all your machines connected to Linksys. The IP address must be part of the Linksys' subnet addresses, i.e., if Linksys router's internal Ip address is 192.168.2.1 then your subnet IP addresses are in the range 192.168.2.2 to 192.168.2.254.
d) You must port-forward the ports on the machines in your linksys router. Sice Zyxel is in bridge mode, all IP addresses are automatically forwarded.

kix, i already tried that setup before but the internet connection always gets disconnected after a few hours and i needed to restart everything to get a new working connection. Im observed that it happens when the lease time period expires. I wonder why is it that when I directly plugin my DSL to one computer and the lease time expires I still got my connection working but whenever it is shared over the linksys router I lose my connection and have to restart..

Originally Posted by just4kix

It appears that 'Admin' is busy. I cannot upload the huge attachment here. So if someone wants this guide, please send me your e-mail id's.

hey tried a lot but my laptop is not able to connec to the NEt. But when I change the security settings to no WEP encription to disabled , my internet works fine. But the moment I enable it, I get a response of of "Low COnnectivity or No connectivity" frm my wi-fi network!!!

plz helpn kindly send me the guide at dj_rcl08@zapak.com