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    hello everybody

    i am posting this message because i cannot hold my stomach anymore ...

    i have UL900 plus plan and i am really pissed off from the download speed, it is giving only 15-20 kb/s i am really just ...............................i cant tell you how i am feeling!


    earlier i have planned that taking an unlimited connection would be of no tension, 24 hrs online and i also thought that dataone connection was really broadband(i dont know what is the definition of broadband for bsnl) broadband hell broadband, such horrible speeds i dont know why this is happening to me only, as most of the users are satisfied i dont know how?

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    This is strange. I have the same UL900 plan.

    I completed a speed test just now (25-Jan-2008 @ 8:39 PM) and here are my results....

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    as i have said most of the users are satisfied

    and i doubt speedtest.net is fake, i have already gone through the test and it was displaying 430-500 kbps

    check your actual download speed while downloading something from the net then see the results.................................

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    Quote Originally Posted by player View Post
    as i have said most of the users are satisfied

    and i doubt speedtest.net is fake, i have already gone through the test and it was displaying 430-500 kbps

    check your actual download speed while downloading something from the net then see the results.................................
    Ah! I see that you are not aware of those "bits and bytes" fundas. Call them fine print of the contract if you will.

    Broadband speed is advertised in kilobits per second or kbps. We often read kb as kilobytes. Now you know that 1 byte = 8 bits. When we start any download, the speed is shown in kBps. Note the uppercase B in kBps, which denotes kilobytes per second.

    So when you have a BB speed of 256 kbps, the maximum download speed that can be achieved is 32 kBps. This is assuming that the load on the source server is minimum. If the the source is very busy naturally speed will be less.

    When we come to know of these facts we feel frustrated, betrayed, and cheated.
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    Lightbulb dataone 900++ plan sucks

    i agree with player comments
    here r da results
    checked my bb speed 4rm sitedataone.in
    current bandwidth reading 1.80 kbs
    download rate 0.23 kbps
    i am using ul 900 plan
    shocked to c da results..............



    best plan acc 2 me is night ul 500.....h......
    i downloaded 22 gb in one month and paid no extra charge
    even my day time usage did"nt exceed 700 mb while free usage is 2.5 gb
    also port binding is provided here in mohali (chandigarh)
    my hometown
    .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by player View Post
    hello everybody

    i am posting this message because i cannot hold my stomach anymore ...

    i have UL900 plus plan and i am really pissed off from the download speed, it is giving only 15-20 kb/s i am really just ...............................i cant tell you how i am feeling!


    earlier i have planned that taking an unlimited connection would be of no tension, 24 hrs online and i also thought that dataone connection was really broadband(i dont know what is the definition of broadband for bsnl) broadband hell broadband, such horrible speeds i dont know why this is happening to me only, as most of the users are satisfied i dont know how?
    hello friend yes the plan ul900 supports only 30kbps, because its max speed is 256kbps as specified by bsnl,
    my best suggestion is to get ul500 its upto 2mbps,i myself using it,morning 0200 to 0800 hrs free usage,u can get 200 kbps download speed,

    trust me friend iam a BSNL employee,get plan change as early as possible

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    Default thanks 4 reply

    it was my foolishness to change bb plan 4rm 500 to ul 900.
    i will change to 500 plan next month.........

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    hello ashok

    i am not feeling good of about changing my plan because of password theft, resulting in disastrous billing and let me tell you something that you are saying that i will get a download speed of 200 kbps (kilobits per second) not KBps (kilobytes per second ) as downloading is measured in KBps.
    thanks to just4kix as he explained the kbps fundas to me.

    so by calculation i think i will get around 25 KBps which is not so impressive (to me).

    and secondly the time of unlimited download is really absurd to me because i am a class 12th student i have to got to sleep by 11 or 12 pm to wake up early next morning.

    and thirdly who will reset the the modem at 2 am!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    @player, There are some scripts posted by some excellent people here which can automate the task of reseting the modem for you. Just to be safe, the modem should be reset after 2:05 am and again before 7:55 am.

    Download managers can help you in restarting where you left of earlier.

    But on the whole, it is better to stay away from limited plans if you are a heavy downloader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by player View Post
    hello ashok

    i am not feeling good of about changing my plan because of password theft, resulting in disastrous billing
    w8 a min........how can anyone mess wid u even if he knows urs pass. i mean my frnd new my pass..but then wht.....hes having his BB on his fone line no & i am having on my own.....& i guess all the BSNL BB connections are encrypted. Ok let me go further. If he tried to enter my passs & name is his router then he'll get authentication fail error.

    can anyone enlighten me??

    sorry for going offtopic
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    @Logik,

    First a request. Would you please stay away from SMS like language? It is difficult for "oldies" like me to understand the same.

    To answer your doubt:

    a) BSNL does not send encrypted signals.

    b) Most BSNL broadband connections are port binded, i.e., the username is linked to the phone number. So it is not possible to access your connection from a different phone number; even by yourself; even if at the same residence/office.
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    @ just

    Sorry Sir, mine bad.I will try be smooth from next time.But the question remains the same, why player just quoted somethign like password theft & over billing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logik View Post
    @ just

    Sorry Sir, mine bad.I will try be smooth from next time.But the question remains the same, why player just quoted somethign like password theft & over billing.
    Well, The BSNL connections are not port binded all over India. So there is a chance that at such places (where there is no port-binding) someone can use your login id and password to surf the net. All that person needs is an ADSL modem and a PC.

    This is what he means by password theft and over billing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by just4kix View Post
    @player, There are some scripts posted by some excellent people here which can automate the task of reseting the modem for you. Just to be safe, the modem should be reset after 2:05 am and again before 7:55 am.

    Download managers can help you in restarting where you left of earlier.

    But on the whole, it is better to stay away from limited plans if you are a heavy downloader.

    All the best for your Class XII exams.
    Hi Bro.. why should we reset the modem to get the night unlimited download? Its already mentioned in the plan.. rite??

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    Quote Originally Posted by aruncse30 View Post
    Hi Bro.. why should we reset the modem to get the night unlimited download? Its already mentioned in the plan.. rite??
    Beats me. But that is the way it is. I have UL900 plan so I have no idea.

    But it seems that to get Unlimited options for other plans we are required to start a new session during that period (2 AM to 8 AM). Apparently if an already open session started before 2 AM continues in the free period, the free period option is not realized and the entire session's download is considered for the non-free time.

    On the same basis, it could be argued that a session started between 2 AM to 8 AM and continuing beyond 8 AM should be considered as free.

    This is all speculative and no one wants to take a chance.

    Hence it is highly advisable to shutdown the modem before 2 AM and restart it after 2 AM (and then again shut it off before 8 AM). This is just making double sure that you are not taking risks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logik View Post
    w8 a min........how can anyone mess wid u even if he knows urs pass. i mean my frnd new my pass..but then wht.....hes having his BB on his fone line no & i am having on my own.....& i guess all the BSNL BB connections are encrypted. Ok let me go further. If he tried to enter my passs & name is his router then he'll get authentication fail error.

    can anyone enlighten me??

    sorry for going offtopic
    hello logik,
    u r wrong,any BB user can use any password within that circle(like sancharnet) if the DSLAM in the exchange is not port binded(do u understand),if it is port binded then ur password will work with ur line only(like netone),so don't leak password to any body,if already leaked then immediately change ur password in BSNL NIB-II PORTAL

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    Quote Originally Posted by just4kix View Post
    This is strange. I have the same UL900 plan.

    I completed a speed test just now (25-Jan-2008 @ 8:39 PM) and here are my results....

    http://www.speedtest.net/result/227478037.png

    see my speed with ul500
    so change to ul500

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    hello ashok

    i am not feeling good of about changing my plan because of password theft, resulting in disastrous billing and let me tell you something that you are saying that i will get a download speed of 200 kbps (kilobits per second) not KBps (kilobytes per second ) as downloading is measured in KBps.
    thanks to just4kix as he explained the kbps fundas to me.

    so by calculation i think i will get around 25 KBps which is not so impressive (to me).

    and secondly the time of unlimited download is really absurd to me because i am a class 12th student i have to got to sleep by 11 or 12 pm to wake up early next morning.

    and thirdly who will reset the the modem at 2 am!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    sorry friend u misunderstood me
    its 200-300 kBps i din't make any mistake
    i have downloaded 15 GB in 8 days in free hours iam getting a movie of 700 MB in just 2 hrs.
    at the time of 0200 u will get good speed why because traffic is less at ur DSLAM,so keep a scheduler will help u better,

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    Quote Originally Posted by player View Post
    hello ashok

    i am not feeling good of about changing my plan because of password theft, resulting in disastrous billing and let me tell you something that you are saying that i will get a download speed of 200 kbps (kilobits per second) not KBps (kilobytes per second ) as downloading is measured in KBps.
    thanks to just4kix as he explained the kbps fundas to me.

    so by calculation i think i will get around 25 KBps which is not so impressive (to me).

    and secondly the time of unlimited download is really absurd to me because i am a class 12th student i have to got to sleep by 11 or 12 pm to wake up early next morning.

    and thirdly who will reset the the modem at 2 am!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    y r u fearing about password u can change it anytime through BSNL NIB-II PORTAL

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    Quote Originally Posted by just4kix View Post
    Beats me. But that is the way it is. I have UL900 plan so I have no idea.

    But it seems that to get Unlimited options for other plans we are required to start a new session during that period (2 AM to 8 AM). Apparently if an already open session started before 2 AM continues in the free period, the free period option is not realized and the entire session's download is considered for the non-free time.

    On the same basis, it could be argued that a session started between 2 AM to 8 AM and continuing beyond 8 AM should be considered as free.

    This is all speculative and no one wants to take a chance.

    Hence it is highly advisable to shutdown the modem before 2 AM and restart it after 2 AM (and then again shut it off before 8 AM). This is just making double sure that you are not taking risks.
    @just4kix,
    i will advice u in tis topic,

    1.download "free download manager ", u can get it in net @free

    2. in FDM u can schedule connection at any time,and u can schedule download urls in FDM

    u can download any thing without waking up at 2:00 am (and even for switching on the system),i will tell how can we switch on system automatically,

    3.go to bias setting(by clicking DEL key at startup)->power management settings-> in that u can see time setting to switch on system automatically.

    4. set the time as 02:05 in bias settings,

    5. just schedule a connection at 02:10(5 mins for bootig) in FDM, and schedule a download link(ex. a movie url) at 02:12,thats all

    6. all u have to do is just shutdown ur system(at the time of sleeping disconnect the active connection) don't turn off main switch,and keep modem
    switch on,

    what will happen:
    first at 02:05 system will switch on automatically
    second at 02:10 connection is established by FDM
    third at 02:12 starts downloading... thats all

    give ur responce if u like this post yaar,

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashok20204 View Post
    http://www.speedtest.net/result/227478037.png

    see my speed with ul500
    so change to ul500
    No. Thanks. I am happy with UL900.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashok20204 View Post
    http://www.speedtest.net/result/227478037.png

    see my speed with ul500
    so change to ul500
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    @just4kix,
    i will advice u in tis topic,

    1.download "free download manager ", u can get it in net @free

    2. in FDM u can schedule connection at any time,and u can schedule download urls in FDM

    u can download any thing without waking up at 2:00 am (and even for switching on the system),i will tell how can we switch on system automatically,

    3.go to bias setting(by clicking DEL key at startup)->power management settings-> in that u can see time setting to switch on system automatically.

    4. set the time as 02:05 in bias settings,

    5. just schedule a connection at 02:10(5 mins for bootig) in FDM, and schedule a download link(ex. a movie url) at 02:12,thats all

    6. all u have to do is just shutdown ur system(at the time of sleeping disconnect the active connection) don't turn off main switch,and keep modem
    switch on,

    what will happen:
    first at 02:05 system will switch on automatically
    second at 02:10 connection is established by FDM
    third at 02:12 starts downloading... thats all

    give ur responce if u like this post yaar,
    Dear Ashok,

    I like your method and I think it will work.

    However, I am having UL900 plan so I do not have to schedule anything. I would prefer "safety" over "speed" .

    Perhaps I am getting old and senile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by just4kix View Post
    Dear Ashok,

    I like your method and I think it will work.

    However, I am having UL900 plan so I do not have to schedule anything. I would prefer "safety" over "speed" .

    Perhaps I am getting old and senile.
    ok let it be, it will helpfull for ul500 users

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    i totally agree with just4kix "it is better to stay on the safer side" why to take risk

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    Yep. The home UL500 is only for users who only browse and download only at nights.Still there are people who needs to download stuffs at non-free times , they prefer UL900.Juz incase if the free timings are changed to 5pm to 11pm see the change of members from UL500 to UL900.

    I download an average of some 40GB per month wid UL900 .

    btw @ just4kix,

    Dude speedtest.net is not a real one i guess , coz i get high download speed with a UL900 plan. check out

    http://www.speedtest.net/result/221956528.png
    DSL Light im my modem blinks & net gets dc!:mad:Still none have solved my problem!

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    Default How do Speed Tests work?

    Most speed tests work this way:

    a) A small file is downloaded from the test server. Sometimes this is done multiple times.
    b) The same file is uploaded - sometimes multiple times.

    The average download and upload time is calculated and displayed. So even Speedtest.Net results can be misleading - although it is believed to be most accurate.

    To all those with limited plans: Beware of speedtests. This will definitely add to your limits. So do not do this too often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by just4kix View Post

    To all those with limited plans: Beware of speedtests. This will definitely add to your limits. So do not do this too often.
    Yes, true many of them thinks that using speed test regularly will not affect their usage which in fact is not true, it will in fact be counted in your usage (even if you use bsnl's test option)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashok20204 View Post
    sorry friend u misunderstood me
    its 200-300 kBps i din't make any mistake
    i have downloaded 15 GB in 8 days in free hours iam getting a movie of 700 MB in just 2 hrs.
    at the time of 0200 u will get good speed why because traffic is less at ur DSLAM,so keep a scheduler will help u better,
    Hi Ashok.. Can you tell me from where can we download movies such like Divx.. (My sincere apologise if the question shouldn't be raised here)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashok20204 View Post
    @just4kix,
    i will advice u in tis topic,

    1.download "free download manager ", u can get it in net @free

    2. in FDM u can schedule connection at any time,and u can schedule download urls in FDM

    u can download any thing without waking up at 2:00 am (and even for switching on the system),i will tell how can we switch on system automatically,

    3.go to bias setting(by clicking DEL key at startup)->power management settings-> in that u can see time setting to switch on system automatically.

    4. set the time as 02:05 in bias settings,

    5. just schedule a connection at 02:10(5 mins for bootig) in FDM, and schedule a download link(ex. a movie url) at 02:12,thats all

    6. all u have to do is just shutdown ur system(at the time of sleeping disconnect the active connection) don't turn off main switch,and keep modem
    switch on,

    what will happen:
    first at 02:05 system will switch on automatically
    second at 02:10 connection is established by FDM
    third at 02:12 starts downloading... thats all

    give ur responce if u like this post yaar,
    Hi just4kix.. ur assumptn might be correct.. but in that case.. if i restarted my modem after 2AM,after that if im surfing for the next whole day without rebooting the moden. then wat ll happen? if this is correct. then every one would have followed this stuff.. I think something else is there.

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    is the bsnl network down ...it says in teh router page as "ppp down"...what does that mean

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    Quote Originally Posted by reimann View Post
    is the bsnl network down ...it says in teh router page as "ppp down"...what does that mean
    That definitely means that the network is down. It happened to me on 26-Jan. Call up the BSNL Helpline (1-800-424-1600).
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    Quote Originally Posted by just4kix View Post
    That definitely means that the network is down. It happened to me on 26-Jan. Call up the BSNL Helpline (1-800-424-1600).
    ok thanks its working now.. thanks for all the help just4kix...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aruncse30 View Post
    Hi Ashok.. Can you tell me from where can we download movies such like Divx.. (My sincere apologise if the question shouldn't be raised here)
    hai friend
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    Quote Originally Posted by just4kix View Post
    Well, The BSNL connections are not port binded all over India. So there is a chance that at such places (where there is no port-binding) someone can use your login id and password to surf the net. All that person needs is an ADSL modem and a PC.

    This is what he means by password theft and over billing.
    Quote Originally Posted by ashok20204 View Post
    hello logik,
    u r wrong,any BB user can use any password within that circle(like sancharnet) if the DSLAM in the exchange is not port binded(do u understand),if it is port binded then ur password will work with ur line only(like netone),so don't leak password to any body,if already leaked then immediately change ur password in BSNL NIB-II PORTAL

    @ashok & just

    1.Well I am not having all the technical knowledge about the BB terms..........but i can assume what port binded means that connection (id & pass) alloted to specific user works for his own not for any other. Am i rite?

    2.well mine ip is like 5x.xx.xx.xx series & i guess its not port binded....so am i at risk if anybudy knows my pass.........well what i wanna to know that......how to check ur connection/DSLAM is port binded or not?

    BTW Wht is DSLAM??

    excuse me for being Newbie in this field....hope i am not irritating u ppl
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    @logik, Port-binding in a nutshell means that the Dataone BB username is tied to the phone number. So effective one can use the dataone connections only from that phone line. The easiest way of knowing whether there is port-binding or not is to check the real IP address. If the real IP address is 117.x.x.x then there is port binding. But just to make sure, call up the exchange and check.

    Since your IP address is 5x.x.x.x, your BB connection must not be port-binded. BTW, where do you live?

    DSLAM means Digital Subscriber Line Access Multiplexer. Check out here: Digital subscriber line access multiplexer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashok20204 View Post
    hai friend
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    Thanks a lot Ashok...

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    Default Any idea which areas of India it is not port binded?

    Quote Originally Posted by just4kix View Post
    Well, The BSNL connections are not port binded all over India. So there is a chance that at such places (where there is no port-binding) someone can use your login id and password to surf the net. All that person needs is an ADSL modem and a PC.

    This is what he means by password theft and over billing.
    Any idea which areas of India it is not port binded? What about Bangalore and Bangalore rural?

    -Sundeep

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sundeep View Post
    Any idea which areas of India it is not port binded? What about Bangalore and Bangalore rural?

    -Sundeep
    Please check your real ip address once your are connected to the internet (from the router's status page thru its web interface).

    If your real ip address is something like 117.x.x.x then your connection is port binded. If it is something like 5x.x.x.x then it is not.
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    I had used BSNL broadband for 2 months and as er my experince i would not that say that it sucks in any ways except its high prices and low speed. I had never faced any problem with them.

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    have u tried any download accelerator, sometimes due to old windows installers in windows such problem happens.

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    Thumbs down 117.* Doesn't justify

    Every one here is saying that if the exchange provides port binding service then password theft (or using others account is not possible).

    I asked the exchange people and they told me that all IDs are port binded.

    But i am still able to use others Id from my computer.

    My IP address is of the order 117.* then what is the use of Port Binding.

    Note: the user Id and password is alloted to my friend living near to me. His IP is also in the range of 117.*

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    Quote Originally Posted by just4kix View Post
    Dear Ashok,

    I like your method and I think it will work.

    However, I am having UL900 plan so I do not have to schedule anything. I would prefer "safety" over "speed" .

    Perhaps I am getting old and senile.
    in this case u meant to say that we dont need to write any script for restarting the modem??

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    Quote Originally Posted by aruncse30 View Post
    in this case u meant to say that we dont need to write any script for restarting the modem??
    That is correct. Since the plan is unlimited and I get the same bandwidth (day or night), at least in theory, there is no need for any logoff/login at night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rock_daring View Post
    Every one here is saying that if the exchange provides port binding service then password theft (or using others account is not possible).

    I asked the exchange people and they told me that all IDs are port binded.

    But i am still able to use others Id from my computer.

    My IP address is of the order 117.* then what is the use of Port Binding.

    Note: the user Id and password is alloted to my friend living near to me. His IP is also in the range of 117.*
    R U saying that u entered his ID & pass in ur ADSL modem & then used his/her net.

    or u checked his account usage by going to account check url from ur PC??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logik View Post
    R U saying that u entered his ID & pass in ur ADSL modem & then used his/her net.

    or u checked his account usage by going to account check url from ur PC??
    I used his user id and password to access net.

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    well interestingly i have 59.x.x.x. ip which is not port binded..when i tried to use one of mine frnd's net (ofcourse with his permission)from my modem & PC....twas giving me error like Authentication Failed......lol....seems that every thing is contrary in BSNL. there port binded is vulnerable & non port binded is not

    BTW is u & ur friend have same Modem & same Plan??
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    Well would any of u know if the my password is stolen n used my others will my modem restart constantly..................Cos my modem is restarting constantly....plz help what could be the problem...............today i changed my password will let u know if my connection is back to normal......................

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    use the gigajet software to down load your stuffs, speed will increase 2about 100-150 kbps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logik View Post
    well interestingly i have 59.x.x.x. ip which is not port binded..when i tried to use one of mine frnd's net (ofcourse with his permission)from my modem & PC....twas giving me error like Authentication Failed......lol....seems that every thing is contrary in BSNL. there port binded is vulnerable & non port binded is not

    BTW is u & ur friend have same Modem & same Plan??
    The difference between 59.x.x.x IP and 117.x.x.x IP is that users are in different platforms. (Even account checking sites are also different. Intranet IP for 59.x.x.x and a general site for 117.x.x.x). BSNL people call these as P2 and P3 (multiply). In P2 port binding is not possible in small capacity DSLMS. Roughly it can be say as small exchanges. In P3 port binding is possible in all DSLMS.

    If 117.x.x.x IP users are not port binded it may be due to technical flaws or ignorance of exchange people. Also the port binding is automatic. It will be binded with in first few uses for new account. Don't try the username and password of a new connection on a different ADSL phone line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashok20204 View Post
    @just4kix,
    i will advice u in tis topic,

    1.download "free download manager ", u can get it in net @free

    2. in FDM u can schedule connection at any time,and u can schedule download urls in FDM

    u can download any thing without waking up at 2:00 am (and even for switching on the system),i will tell how can we switch on system automatically,

    3.go to bias setting(by clicking DEL key at startup)->power management settings-> in that u can see time setting to switch on system automatically.

    4. set the time as 02:05 in bias settings,

    5. just schedule a connection at 02:10(5 mins for bootig) in FDM, and schedule a download link(ex. a movie url) at 02:12,thats all

    6. all u have to do is just shutdown ur system(at the time of sleeping disconnect the active connection) don't turn off main switch,and keep modem
    switch on,

    what will happen:
    first at 02:05 system will switch on automatically
    second at 02:10 connection is established by FDM
    third at 02:12 starts downloading... thats all

    give ur responce if u like this post yaar,
    What will hapeen if im using pppoe connection.

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    117 ips are port binded and not the 59 ips

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