Thread: How to set Modem in Bridged mode and wireless router in PPoE mode

Originally Posted by shriniketsarkar

Hi i did exactly as it was written in the guide u gave ......

Accidently i found some difference ...
In the screen shot of the Satus page that u showed for the UT-300R2U modem/router........in ur case it shows as NAT disabled for both LAN -Ethernet and LAN- USB. Wheras in mycase it shows NAT Enabled in both the cases.......



Also in the WGR614 configuration .....in the router status page again i found a difference ........ In ur case the Under ROUter Status -> Internet Port ->
DHCP DHCPCLient


Whereas in my case .... ROUter Status -> Internet Port ->
DHCP PPPoE



and under ROUter Status -> Wireless Port ->

Urcase :

Mode Auto

In my case there is not such field saying mode....




The screen shot that u posted to me for the Router Status ......its for
WGR614v7 and V1.0.3_1.0.3
even my is Version 7
but
the Firmware Version is different ...in my case its V2.0.23_1.0.23



regarding success :
Well i could login into Google talk ..but google.com didnt open nor did hotmail
gmail login page opened but after signing in nothing opened....
Nergear website is also not opening ...i am not getting whats wrng ....
Well will i have to check for that modem ka NAT status
How will i be able to change it to disabled .....from enabled ...?Cos i didnt find any option given in the UT300R2U for changing NAT ...?
NAT se farak pad ta hoga kya?

Hye i also tried again ...and got that thing to NAT but still not working ....
Have u tried it any time .....?

Originally Posted by shriniketsarkar

In the screen shot of the Satus page that u showed for the UT-300R2U modem/router........in ur case it shows as NAT disabled for both LAN -Ethernet and LAN- USB. Wheras in mycase it shows NAT Enabled in both the cases.......

NAT does not matter in case of Bridge connections. In fact from bridge, it must be disabled. Please re-configure your UT-300R2U in bridge mode by reseting the modem first.

NAT come into picture only when there is external IP and internal IP (both) are involved. In case of a bridge, there is no external IP.

For more details on NAT, please refer to my post: http://www.indiabroadband.net/bsnl-b...and-guide.html (The very basic Broadband Guide)

Originally Posted by shriniketsarkar

Also in the WGR614 configuration .....in the router status page again i found a difference ........

In ur case the Under ROUter Status -> Internet Port -> DHCP DHCPCLient
Whereas in my case .... ROUter Status -> Internet Port -> DHCP PPPoE

Originally Posted by shriniketsarkar

and under ROUter Status -> Wireless Port ->
Urcase : Mode Auto
In my case there is not such field saying mode....

Originally Posted by shriniketsarkar

The screen shot that u posted to me for the Router Status ......its for WGR614v7 and V1.0.3_1.0.3
even my is Version 7 but the Firmware Version is different ...in my case its V2.0.23_1.0.23

For all the three comments mentioned, I must mention that:

a) I created the guide from the downloaded user manual
b) I do not have this router with the latest firmware
c) Pictures were borrowed (shamelessly) from the manual

Hence, links and pictures may be incorrect.

Originally Posted by shriniketsarkar

regarding success :
Well i could login into Google talk ..but google.com didnt open nor did hotmail
gmail login page opened but after signing in nothing opened....
Nergear website is also not opening ...i am not getting whats wrng ....
Well will i have to check for that modem ka NAT status
How will i be able to change it to disabled .....from enabled ...?Cos i didnt find any option given in the UT300R2U for changing NAT ...?
NAT se farak pad ta hoga kya?

I would like you to completely restart from the beginning. Please reset both routers to factory defaults (I understand that you know how) and restart from beginning.

The updated guide is attached in this thread: http://www.indiabroadband.net/bsnl-b...html#post16928 (Setup of UT-300R2 with Netgear WGR614v7)

Originally Posted by just4kix

NAT does not matter in case of Bridge connections. In fact from bridge, it must be disabled. Please re-configure your UT-300R2U in bridge mode by reseting the modem first.

NAT come into picture only when there is external IP and internal IP (both) are involved. In case of a bridge, there is no external IP.

For more details on NAT, please refer to my post: http://www.indiabroadband.net/bsnl-b...and-guide.html (The very basic Broadband Guide)


Hi buddy i did all the the process again ..
Reset manually both the devices ..and reconfigured them .....
but still no success ...
1 thing i observed ..
that after i configured the netgear wireless router ....with all the basic settings ..
I checked the router status page ..and i noticed that netgear is getting the IP from BSNL.

I tried pinging the id ..its was something 59.95.19.69
And it got pinged....i mean no packed was dropped ...
this suggests that ..the netgear router is getting the connection from the modem ...but i am not getting it on the machine .....
I tried that test button in the basic settings of the netgear page ...but it didnt open the site .....







For all the three comments mentioned, I must mention that:

a) I created the guide from the downloaded user manual
b) I do not have this router with the latest firmware
c) Pictures were borrowed (shamelessly) from the manual

Hence, links and pictures may be incorrect.



I would like you to completely restart from the beginning. Please reset both routers to factory defaults (I understand that you know how) and restart from beginning.

The updated guide is attached in this thread: http://www.indiabroadband.net/bsnl-b...html#post16928 (Setup of UT-300R2 with Netgear WGR614v7)

Now i am getting fed up by this ..all .......I guess there is a problem with my netgear router .....Its working the other way round ...i mean by putting the modem in pppoe mode and router in bridged ......but i wanted it this way cos ......its giving some problems with the Live Exchange software that i have.

If u got any further advancements to the configuration i can do ..please tell me ..
Hey also do me a favour ..if possible add me in ur gmail list
shriniketsarkar@gmail.com same with yahoo ...
so that may be i can catch u up online sometime ...we can discuss this ..ofcourse if ur interested in solving my problem.NO offence ment.thanks for all the help ....
Also thanks to the other guy superprash i guess ....do drop an update if u get and solution.
regards,
shriniket sarkar

It is dangerous to mention emails in public forums as you may get spammed. Use PM for this. I have PMed you my id.

Of course, I wish to help you and anyone else who can be helped. I cannot claim to be an expert. Have faith. Configuring a router is not easy as stated. Rarely things work out in first go. And when they work out you have a big laugh at yourself because it was a very silly mistake that you did.

I had a lot of problems with Linksys WRT54G. My other wireless, Airlink 101 AR430W, gave me much less problems.

The usual culprits are: VCI/VPI (for modem side only), NAT, and MTU. As I said, completely reset both devices and start all over again.

Originally Posted by just4kix

It is dangerous to mention emails in public forums as you may get spammed. Use PM for this. I have PMed you my id.

Of course, I wish to help you and anyone else who can be helped. I cannot claim to be an expert. Have faith. Configuring a router is not easy as stated. Rarely things work out in first go. And when they work out you have a big laugh at yourself because it was a very silly mistake that you did.

I had a lot of problems with Linksys WRT54G. My other wireless, Airlink 101 AR430W, gave me much less problems.

The usual culprits are: VCI/VPI (for modem side only), NAT, and MTU. As I said, completely reset both devices and start all over again.

Oops next time will keep in mind about the email id .....

Well i did that re ...manually reseting both the devices and diong the config ...
I also tried turning DHCP off for the modem and DHCP on for the router but still no luck ....
Hey got an methods to check my WGR614 ?How can i get to know whether its faulty ....?
I tried those Netgear forums as well .....they seem to be of no use .

Since your Netgear router appears to be working in bridge mode (no login required), I very much doubt that it is faulty. Please check whether you have the latest firmware and if not, do upgrade it, but do it carefully. Wrong firmware can damage the router completely byond repair.

DHCP must be ON on both routers.

I am also assuming that RJ45 cables are not faulty - especially the one that connects Netgear to UT Starcom.

During the setup you must use wired connections only. The wired connection should be as follows:

Telephone Jack ---(RJ11)---> Splitter ---(RJ11)---> UT-300R2U ---(RJ45)---> WGR614 ---(RJ45)---> PC or Laptop.

Can you also check the following:

a) whether you are able to ping to the UT-300R2U modem (192.168.1.1).
b) whether you are able to open the UT-300R2U web config page (http://192.168.1.1) from your PC/Laptop?
c) Have you set up the correct region and channel in WGR614?

Originally Posted by just4kix

Since your Netgear router appears to be working in bridge mode (no login required), I very much doubt that it is faulty. Please check whether you have the latest firmware and if not, do upgrade it, but do it carefully. Wrong firmware can damage the router completely byond repair.

DHCP must be ON on both routers.

I am also assuming that RJ45 cables are not faulty - especially the one that connects Netgear to UT Starcom.

During the setup you must use wired connections only. The wired connection should be as follows:

Telephone Jack ---(RJ11)---> Splitter ---(RJ11)---> UT-300R2U ---(RJ45)---> WGR614 ---(RJ45)---> PC or Laptop.

Can you also check the following:

a) whether you are able to ping to the UT-300R2U modem (192.168.1.1).
b) whether you are able to open the UT-300R2U web config page (http://192.168.1.1) from your PC/Laptop?
c) Have you set up the correct region and channel in WGR614?

Actually i checked for the firmware lot before ...but my version seems to be the latest available on the netgear site ....its
WGR614v7 Firmware 2.0.23_1.0.23
And it says that u cant upgrade to WGR614v8/9 firmware cos reverse compatibility is not supported hence i am on the latest firmware as per the netgear site.

Regarding the LAN wires buddy i guess the are ok cos they allow me to do all the lan functionality.

Also i have done the setup of both the devices as u said above ......
I am getting ping for the modem and the config page is also opening .....

PLease tell me se i am in India and this WGR614 gives me an option only for Asia.So i had to choose that ......but how to know the channel ?
Cos i have seen wireless routers at my firends place which work on US as the location and 11 as the channel ........
What difference does both make?

Actually, if you are able to get a good signal, then channel is not very important. Here is verbatim from the page: 10 tips for improving your wireless network

Wireless routers can broadcast on several different channels, similar to the way radio stations use different channels. In the United States and Canada, these channels are 1, 6, and 11. Just like you'll sometimes hear interference on one radio station while another is perfectly clear, sometimes one wireless channel is clearer than others. Try changing your wireless router's channel through your router's configuration page to see if your signal strength improves.

I am actually stumped at your problem. The only thing I can think of is that you UT-300R2U modem/router is not accepting dialing commands because it is already busy. I know that a guy in my neighbourhood uses Netgear wireless (SSID = NETGEAR). I don't know him but his SSID is visible to me, has no security and I could even login to his modem. Although the signal is weak to my home, I could neverthess surf.

Please post all further questions/queries/suggestions here: http://www.indiabroadband.net/bsnl-b...-wgr614v7.html (Setup of UT-300R2 with Netgear WGR614v7)

Originally Posted by just4kix

Actually, if you are able to get a good signal, then channel is not very important. Here is verbatim from the page: 10 tips for improving your wireless network

Wireless routers can broadcast on several different channels, similar to the way radio stations use different channels. In the United States and Canada, these channels are 1, 6, and 11. Just like you'll sometimes hear interference on one radio station while another is perfectly clear, sometimes one wireless channel is clearer than others. Try changing your wireless router's channel through your router's configuration page to see if your signal strength improves.

I am actually stumped at your problem. The only thing I can think of is that you UT-300R2U modem/router is not accepting dialing commands because it is already busy. I know that a guy in my neighbourhood uses Netgear wireless (SSID = NETGEAR). I don't know him but his SSID is visible to me, has no security and I could even login to his modem. Although the signal is weak to my home, I could neverthess surf.

Ok got the funda behind .....channels.
Thanks for it ...waise i have contacted netgear customer technical support for this ...thankfully they are replying ....lets try their procedure now .....
He told me to do all that u had told ...but lets see .....if he get the correct diagnose of the problem .....

Hi,
I could reslove the issue that i was facing regarding configuring the UT300R2U in Bridge mode and the wireless router in PPPoE mode.
Actually i was getting the ping after i configured it by the procedures suggested in the previous comments in this thread.
Thanks to all who helped.
The problem was with the MTU value configured in my netgear router....
It was set to 1500 so i brought it down to 1400 randomly ...but if u want to configure it to exact u can try setting it to 1492 cos 8 bytes are consumed by PPPoE protocol.
For more information check this site.....

MTU, Partial Loss of Internet Connection, and Performance

Or even a search on microsoft site will do u the needy.
Thanks everyone.

Hi Friends,

I'm new to this forum.

I'm having Huawei SmartAX MT841 Adsl modem+router (provided by BSNL). I bought Netgear WGR 614 (Wireless G 54) Wireless Router.

I use Ethernet for connecting modem to my computer. I have to use dialer (give username and password) for connecting to Internet.

How can i configure my router (WGR614), so that i can remotely dial to connect? Here my problem is i'm having one desktop & 2 laptops.

Will i be able to use all the 3 (desktop & laptop) simultaneously-using dial-up?

If i had to configure my ADSL modem to be always on, what is the procedure?

Thanks in advance for your reply.

Hi Sriram, Your SmartAX MT841 is already configured in bridged mode (because you are dialing in to connect to internet). You must configure the Netgear router in PPPoE mode as per this guide: http://www.indiabroadband.net/bsnl-b...-wgr614v7.html (Setup of UT-300R2 with Netgear WGR614v7).

After you configure Netgear in PPPoE mode, you must connect to internet via Netgear router only and you must not dial thru the SmartAX modem/router.

Your Netgear modem will now be in always-on mode and you just connect to the Netgear router (wired or wireless) and you will be on internet.

Hi Just4Kix,

Thanks for your help (reply)....its now working...i want one more information...if i revert back my modem to its original i.e. use diap-up and connect with username and password, will i be able to dial from my laptop remotely...

If thats possible, will i be able to use my other laptop online. ie. have 2 laptops simultaneously online using dial-up method.

no, if you use bridged mode then if you dial from one laptop then only that laptop can use the internet.. when you have multiple pcs its better you use ppoe mode