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panchabhut · 08-07-09, 11:56 PM

EVDO is backward compatible with CDMA 1x. but then it would no longer be EVDO.

BSNL uses EVDO Rev.0 as against EVDO Rev.A used by Reliance
on EVDO speeds would be upto 2 mbps (realistically around 1 mbps)
on CDMA 1x speeds would be upto 155 kpbs (realistically around 80-90 kbps)

08-09-09, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panchabhut

BSNL uses EVDO Rev.0 as against EVDO Rev.A used by Reliance
on EVDO speeds would be upto 2 mbps (realistically around 1 mbps)

I dont think you understand what you posted .... Evdo Rev A gives you a max speed of 3.1mbps not 2mbps .... Rev 0 gives you a max speed of 2.45 mbps (BSNL Evdo) ..realistically as you mentioned much lower

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Originally Posted by niceboy

Is it possible to use this device, where there is no EVDO tower?

Quote:

Originally Posted by panchabhut

No.
EVDO is the next stage of wireless CDMA technology. So having a EVDO enabled tower within 3-4 KM is a must.

Quote:

on CDMA 1x speeds would be upto 155 kpbs (realistically around 80-90 kbps)

His question was will the device work where there is no tower ... The answer is yes it will work on the CDMA 1.x network ... you dont need the Evdo tower for the device to work

08-09-09, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by niceboy

thanks. Is it dial up speed or wll phone speed? Cause, dialup gives me around 5kb max and wll gives me around 20kb max download speeds in my area.

Its Speed is above those.
Its a CDMA technology and not GPRS.
And btw be carefull, if EVDO isn't supported by your locality tower, it won't work at all.
Its not like it will start to work like NIC card

panchabhut · 08-09-09, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN

I dont think you understand what you posted .... Evdo Rev A gives you a max speed of 3.1mbps not 2mbps .... Rev 0 gives you a max speed of 2.45 mbps (BSNL Evdo) ..realistically as you mentioned much lower

the speed quoted was with reference to BSNL EVDO. Missed a punctuation in between, so meaning may not have been conveyed fully.

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Originally Posted by srch07

Its Speed is above those.
Its a CDMA technology and not GPRS.
And btw be carefull, if EVDO isn't supported by your locality tower, it won't work at all.
Its not like it will start to work like NIC card

If EVDO tower is not there, the device would work on CDMA 1x (i.e. like NIC card). I have personally seen this for both BSNL and Reliance EVDO data cards.

08-09-09, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srch07

Its Speed is above those.
Its a CDMA technology and not GPRS.
And btw be carefull, if EVDO isn't supported by your locality tower, it won't work at all.
Its not like it will start to work like NIC card

If you have used Tata Plug2Surf whiz or Reliance Netconnect (not Netconnect Broadband+) you ll know that cdma 1.x will give you speeds that are just a few kbps faster than dial up

Rockfella · 08-10-09, 11:13 PM

Guys what about comparing EVDO and TATA Photon? DO people really get 600-700 kBps speeds in PHOTON??

panchabhut · 08-11-09, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockfella

Guys what about comparing EVDO and TATA Photon? DO people really get 600-700 kBps speeds in PHOTON??

TATA Photon is also EVDO. "Photon" is the brand name and "EVDO" is the technology.

AmitTeli · 08-13-09, 10:26 AM

WEW, much replies

nice...

Well i recontacted BSNL EVDO customer care.. i got this reply: -> BSNL EVDO Device cost :3200/- [buy/rent]

-> Security deposit :1000/- [refundable on completion of minimum hiring period, depends on plan selected] payable in first month bill

-> 550/- is minimum and its UL plan

-> BSNL EVDO works in all Metropolitian Cities, well it works in all places of Bangalore...

-> They got no idea about EVDO tower installation in Bangalore locations, but they can say all is that it works with normal BSNL towers..

-> For any fault either in device or service, you will need to contact your nearest customer service center or the office you brought the device...

-> Service in device/network takes time depending on technical team availablity and it can take like days to weeks...

-> Speed assured 2.1 MBPS, but the real speed depends upon multiple factors so they say we can assure the speed but not quality

These were the replies from them....

08-13-09, 10:35 AM

guys i have a doubt,

Will EVDO work woth torrents (port block problem).

As i checked a EVDO card in BSNL office itself and there i installed BitComet and saw that it was showing port blocked.
BSNL officer who was giving the demo told that thats not an issue we will request and open up that port if you want it ( I dont know or tried how true is that). So if it is really blocked & BSNL people cant open it up, then can we use some portforwarding tech and forward the port ?

08-13-09, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirankumargb

guys i have a doubt,

Will EVDO work woth torrents (port block problem).

As i checked a EVDO card in BSNL office itself and there i installed BitComet and saw that it was showing port blocked.
BSNL officer who was giving the demo told that thats not an issue we will request and open up that port if you want it ( I dont know or tried how true is that). So if it is really blocked & BSNL people cant open it up, then can we use some portforwarding tech and forward the port ?

I think the torrents issue is fixed. sb21pro had a post on that. It seems from May it is working fine.

08-13-09, 02:20 PM

Thanks dilip

08-13-09, 02:34 PM

Welcome KK. Please counter check with other sources also. Just in case.

josh · 08-13-09, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piyush patel

hi amit i m using evdo in gujarat.and i m satisfied. 550/moth for unlimited plan and there is no such thing as limited plan!, device prize is 4200/ if u dnt wana buy u can take it on rent, 200/month. my advice is take it on rent coz u dnt knw wat speed u ll get with evdo coz its very depends on signal strenth and spectrum usases like in night u ll get batter speed. i m getting arrond 100KBps max with idm(internet download manager) at 3am to 6am. minimum hire perioud is 3month. now bsnl evdo offers roaming with 650/month plan, so there is no issue of evdo tower or cdma tower! may b new custemor ll b charged 650/month by default. but ll get four state roaming free as well as. so go 4 rent evdo.happy browsing!!!!!!!! hope this ll b useful for u.

and yeah i forgot to mention that u ll get speed up to 2.4mbps while tata photon+ (not photon) and relience broadband+(not relience netconect) offers 3.1 mbps speed, so u cn guess which 1 ll get u batter speed. but remember tata and relience both not ofering unlimited plan. relience offers 10GB plan. and its costly than bsnl. if u have any other dought, fell free to typ here. chears hapy rakhsabandhan in advance!!!!

well very intuitive indeed but I don't understand the term that evdo offers roaming with 650/month plan - does that mean it's available in areas where no evdo tower has been installed ? I live in Muzaffarpur, Bihar state and here is no such evdo tower so will I be blessed with evdo speed? Please specify me in detail I'm in great hurry to buy one of these Tata Photon+,Reliance Netconnect Broadband+ or bsnkl evdo

piyush patel · 08-16-09, 11:07 PM

hi josh there is free roaming in only four states. gujrat is 1 of those 4 state. for more info contact ur local c.c.

josh · 08-18-09, 04:59 PM

[QUOTE=piyush patel;230231]hi josh there is free roaming in only four states. gujrat is 1 of those 4 state. for more info contact ur local c.c.[/QUOT

well thanks for information

speedy · 08-18-09, 05:06 PM

That is a old plan.Now it costs Rs650 UL.
If your taking the modem on rental basis you have to pay Rs1000 as a deposit.
And a monthly rental of Rs200 for modem.So total you have to pay Rs850 per month.
This was the information given by customer service center people whom I met in person.
The people at the customer care helpline number gave wrong(outdated) information that UL plan costs Rs550.

About the price pcmcia type of evdo costs Rs2100.
USB type costs Rs3500.

josh · 08-18-09, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedy

That is a old plan.Now it costs Rs650 UL.
If your taking the modem on rental basis you have to pay Rs1000 as a deposit.
And a monthly rental of Rs200 for modem.So total you have to pay Rs850 per month.
This was the information given by customer service center people whom I met in person.
The people at the customer care helpline number gave wrong(outdated) information that UL plan costs Rs550.

About the price pcmcia type of evdo costs Rs2100.
USB type costs Rs3500.

well but mate the official Bsnl portal has been offering the prices of pcmcia and usb type evdo as 1600 and 2100 respectively.

speedy · 08-19-09, 07:13 PM

As far as I know
pcmcia type of nic card costs Rs.1680 and evdo card costs Rs.2100
usb type nic card costs Rs.2500 and evdo card costs Rs.3500

see the official information here about bsnl evdo card
w w w.bsnl.co.in/service/internet_on_cdma.htm

remove the spaces between w w w in the above link

piyush patel · 08-19-09, 10:34 PM

hi josh that is not bsnl's official site which u toking about, look at end of the page there is written bsnl's unofficial site.i also visited that site but i forgot d addy that came from google search on ist page i think

guesswhomsa1 · 08-20-09, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedy

As far as I know
pcmcia type of nic card costs Rs.1680 and evdo card costs Rs.2100
usb type nic card costs Rs.2500 and evdo card costs Rs.3500

see the official information here about bsnl evdo card
w w w.bsnl.co.in/service/internet_on_cdma.htm

remove the spaces between w w w in the above link

Yes, but they also charge installation charges
it is always better to go for EVDO on rent, check out the performance, especially at your home, and then plan about buying it.

08-18-09, 05:06 PM	#36
speedy Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 90 Rep Power: 1	That is a old plan.Now it costs Rs650 UL. If your taking the modem on rental basis you have to pay Rs1000 as a deposit. And a monthly rental of Rs200 for modem.So total you have to pay Rs850 per month. This was the information given by customer service center people whom I met in person. The people at the customer care helpline number gave wrong(outdated) information that UL plan costs Rs550. About the price pcmcia type of evdo costs Rs2100. USB type costs Rs3500. Last edited by speedy; 08-18-09 at 05:25 PM.

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AmitTeli Bronze Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 103 Rep Power: 2	WEW, much replies nice... Well i recontacted BSNL EVDO customer care.. i got this reply: -> BSNL EVDO Device cost :3200/- [buy/rent] -> Security deposit :1000/- [refundable on completion of minimum hiring period, depends on plan selected] payable in first month bill -> 550/- is minimum and its UL plan -> BSNL EVDO works in all Metropolitian Cities, well it works in all places of Bangalore... -> They got no idea about EVDO tower installation in Bangalore locations, but they can say all is that it works with normal BSNL towers.. -> For any fault either in device or service, you will need to contact your nearest customer service center or the office you brought the device... -> Service in device/network takes time depending on technical team availablity and it can take like days to weeks... -> Speed assured 2.1 MBPS, but the real speed depends upon multiple factors so they say we can assure the speed but not quality These were the replies from them....

08-13-09, 10:35 AM	#29
kirankumargb Guest Posts: n/a	guys i have a doubt, Will EVDO work woth torrents (port block problem). As i checked a EVDO card in BSNL office itself and there i installed BitComet and saw that it was showing port blocked. BSNL officer who was giving the demo told that thats not an issue we will request and open up that port if you want it ( I dont know or tried how true is that). So if it is really blocked & BSNL people cant open it up, then can we use some portforwarding tech and forward the port ?

08-13-09, 02:20 PM	#31
kirankumargb Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks dilip

08-13-09, 02:34 PM	#32
meetdilip Guest Posts: n/a	Welcome KK. Please counter check with other sources also. Just in case.

08-16-09, 11:07 PM	#34
piyush patel Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Gujarat Posts: 12 Rep Power: 1	hi josh there is free roaming in only four states. gujrat is 1 of those 4 state. for more info contact ur local c.c.

08-18-09, 04:59 PM	#35
josh Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bihar(India) Posts: 64 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 1	[QUOTE=piyush patel;230231]hi josh there is free roaming in only four states. gujrat is 1 of those 4 state. for more info contact ur local c.c.[/QUOT well thanks for information

08-19-09, 07:13 PM	#38
speedy Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 90 Rep Power: 1	As far as I know pcmcia type of nic card costs Rs.1680 and evdo card costs Rs.2100 usb type nic card costs Rs.2500 and evdo card costs Rs.3500 see the official information here about bsnl evdo card w w w.bsnl.co.in/service/internet_on_cdma.htm remove the spaces between w w w in the above link

08-19-09, 10:34 PM	#39
piyush patel Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Gujarat Posts: 12 Rep Power: 1	hi josh that is not bsnl's official site which u toking about, look at end of the page there is written bsnl's unofficial site.i also visited that site but i forgot d addy that came from google search on ist page i think