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Debate: Normal fuel vs. Premium Fuel

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    Default Debate: Normal fuel vs. Premium Fuel

    This thread is to discuss virtues (or perception thereof) of using premium fuel over normal fuel in your vehicles.

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    I think unless the manufacturer explicitly recommends premium fuel
    normal fuel is more than enough. Also there is the psychological
    reason, when I got a new car long time back I used only premium
    for the first few years, then a couple of years i used mid
    and then finally dropped down to low octane till I sold it.

    -F

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    As per govt. directives, the normal fuel (petrol) comes premixed with alcohol in many cities. however, the premium fuel does not have this and is therefore better for the engine.
    the premium fuel also contains certain additives that reduce deposits in the engine and can go longer without service.

    milage-wise I've experienced a difference of about 10% between normal and premium fuels.

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    I have personally not felt any significant difference using Premium Fuel.

    I used to fill HP Power or BP Speed in my Santro for the first two/three years. I used to get, maybe, 1 mile extra per liter. That extra mileage did not (does not) offset the extra cost.

    What I have also heard (and as panchabhut put it), Premium fuel has additives. I also read on another forum that these additives are added to make the petrol burn instead of explode. This (explosion) happens in cars with higher compression ratio (premium cars). The additives also help in cleam burning and thus reducing residues left in the engine chamber.

    So in my opinion, it is worthwhile to fill premium grade when your running is high. For average to low running (less than 40 km per day), it may not make much economic sense.
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    I rarely use Car, so i ll explain about my bike.
    I am having Karizma and TVS Victor.

    The time i took victor this power or speed petrol was not so popular i used to fill in the normal one's and i was getting milage of about 80k's and after 1 year i was getting milage of 75 and i changed to Power petrol and now its 4 yrs old bike and still getting milage over 80.

    In karizma i get milage around 35 in normal and in power around 40.

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    There is no diff in normal and premium fuel...

    the petrol pump props. are doing the trick to make money out of this misconception...

    premium fuels are costly because they have sania and dhoni in their ads..
    job takes the child away.

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    ^ I partly agree with what you say...

    I use regular fuel with my bike. I used to get power 2-3 years back...but lately I can hardly feel the difference between the regular and the premium.

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    If your vehicle runs fine and there no "knocking" then use
    the normal fuel. Don't worry about engine gunk and other things.

    If your vehicle needs premium you have to use it.
    for example I used to have a Kawasaki Ninja and that
    needed premium fuel.

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    It's human nature that when we got new car/bike we tend to fill with premium only, Even i'm doing so, I used to fill normal fuel in my last bike and it was running well, Now when i have new pulsar i always go for premium one... It might not add anything but it gives me satisfaction...

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    Premium fuel have some added additive each and every engine dont benefit from it only few high-end vehicles benefit from it, so its waste to use premium fuel on low-end vehicles, just stick to ordinary fuel.

    That too in India there is no proper standards followed, too much adulterations are there so why to waste more money for the so called premium fuel...?
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    There are some methods to detect the adulteration in petrol and diesel but how we can identify which is premium and which is normal?? Actually we are paying more for the name of premium??

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    Guys both cars(one fed up with normal,other with premium)have to go for servicing at same periods..Bharat mein fuel se jyada tyres par invest karna chahiye. Cause better tyres give better performance here. Roads are nowadays made smooth in India but the tendency of breaking them (by Bsnl guys, Jal sansthans, sever department)giving a good silver to the tyre companies. Whatever you invest in premium fuel should be betterly invested in premium tyres. And gosh i have seen the metros even. Story is same everywhere. So...
    job takes the child away.

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    when I was using normal fuel the engine sound stgarted to change on pick-up at around 5500 km indicating the need for service. when using premuim fuel, it started to change at around 8000 km.

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    I think efficiency and other parameters depends more on which company fuel you use more than just wheather its premium or non premium fuel.

    Btw which company are you guys using ?

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    I use HPCL mainly and sometimes BPCL

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    I prefer Shell, but have to do with BP sometimes.

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    I use HP only...and that too from a company pump not a dealership.

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    I read somewhere that premium fuel should only be used if stated by the manufacturer. Also I own Tata Indigo and while purchasing the Showroom executive advised me to use the Normal Diesel and not the premium one.. Even while servicing one some other service center the guy there advised me to use Normal fuel..
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    Quote Originally Posted by aktmnr View Post
    I read somewhere that premium fuel should only be used if stated by the manufacturer. Also I own Tata Indigo and while purchasing the Showroom executive advised me to use the Normal Diesel and not the premium one.. Even while servicing one some other service center the guy there advised me to use Normal fuel..
    Then I think you better use normal fuel then.

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    Anybody who uses CNG?

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    only the recomended fuel should be used and nothin else

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaishaliv View Post
    Anybody who uses CNG?
    I do. I think so does Miss Aashaka.
    what do you want to know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by panchabhut View Post
    I do. I think so does Miss Aashaka.
    what do you want to know?
    I am not a user, I am a producer ;-)

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    Nice Arruval Farce
    job takes the child away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farce View Post
    i am not a user, i am a producer ;-)

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    i get gas from a HP station.
    job takes the child away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    i get gas from a HP station.
    mine's from beans.

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    :lol:

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    There is no diff in normal and premium fuel...

    the petrol pump props. are doing the trick to make money out of this misconception...

    premium fuels are costly because they have sania and dhoni in their ads..
    that not totally true. Premium fuel has a higher octane(in case of petrol)/cetane(in case of diesel) values. That means that it would have lower knocking properties, resulting in a smoother drive. For expensive cars, specially diesel cars, its always better to go for premium fuel as the use of cheaper fuels could damage the internal parts of the engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajan1311 View Post
    that not totally true. Premium fuel has a higher octane(in case of petrol)/cetane(in case of diesel) values. That means that it would have lower knocking properties, resulting in a smoother drive. For expensive cars, specially diesel cars, its always better to go for premium fuel as the use of cheaper fuels could damage the internal parts of the engine.
    It makes a difference only for cars that require it. for cars that run
    on 87 octane, putting 89 or 91 wont make much difference at all.
    but if a car requires higer octane (like our family cadillac) then putting
    lower grade gas will be bad.

    -Punch Bala.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farce View Post
    It makes a difference only for cars that require it. for cars that run
    on 87 octane, putting 89 or 91 wont make much difference at all.
    but if a car requires higer octane (like our family cadillac) then putting
    lower grade gas will be bad.

    -Punch Bala.
    That is exactly what i have said. You not feel much difference if it is not required. But, when its required, you should put premium fuel. But, if u ask the maker if it is required, he would probably say yes, because it would "potentially" give better mileage.

    PS: could you put up some pics of your cadillac ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajan1311 View Post

    PS: could you put up some pics of your cadillac ?
    sure I'll take some pics later today.

    -PB

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    i am waiting for an hour..
    job takes the child away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    i am waiting for an hour..
    how come you are waiting for an hour, you waited only
    two minutes, looking at the timestamps of our posts


    -F

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    This is also end less discusstion


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    amd or intel. farce...?

    btw whose pic farce??
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    job takes the child away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    amd or intel. farce...?

    btw whose pic farce??
    I don't care.

    my car.

    -F

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    As most of them have stated, premium is required for high-end vehicles for better performance... But,Premium petrol is known to cause less pollution and maintain a cleaner engine through the detergents it contains.If not economically profitable, polluting levels can be considered on a wider perspective..

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajan1311 View Post
    That is exactly what i have said. You not feel much difference if it is not required. But, when its required, you should put premium fuel. But, if u ask the maker if it is required, he would probably say yes, because it would "potentially" give better mileage.

    PS: could you put up some pics of your cadillac ?
    Met an IBF member today and while talking suddenly remembered
    I had taken a picture of our family Caddilac long time back and
    never got to post here. So here it is....


    The famous Cadillac Emblem.



    Punch Bala's Caddy



    PB's Wife's car ;-)


    PB's Kid wanted the same cool license plate ;-)


    Punch Bala's girlfriend's car, now gifted to PB ;-)




    -PF

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    Punch Bala, how come you are getting the same license plate for all cars and kid's cycles too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by just4kix View Post
    Punch Bala, how come you are getting the same license plate for all cars and kid's cycles too?
    ssssshhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! don't let the cops know about my fake
    license plates ;-)

    -F

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