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    A super computer installed at Boston's Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center can actually predict likelihood of a person's death. The hospital authorities have already collected data of more than 25000 people over a period of 30 years for speedy diagnosis. The machine is capable of recognizing any disease and can predict patient's imminent demise. Experts believe that this artificial intelligence can really help doctors to take care of their patients more effectively.

    Patients at the hospital are linked to a super computer which monitors everything in every three minutes and reports to respective doctors with all essential data about the condition of the patient.
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    We can't really predict what computers are capable of doing. Even a human being cannot perfectly predict how life will come to an end. But see how easy for a computer to forsee about the critical aspect of our lives. I have read the research about this innovation and I am totally amazed on how this supercomputer works. As what your post stated, the innovation seems to be reliable because the said Medical Center used and proven its capabilities. Thanks for sharing this very informative worldwide news @webworld.

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    there's a scientist who has developed a software (software or a method of calculations, can't recall) that can 'predict' the likelihood of what kind of ailments a person is going to suffer, based on his birth-time and other data during his birth. i think admin might be interested! :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaMaverick View Post
    there's a scientist who has developed a software (software or a method of calculations, can't recall) that can 'predict' the likelihood of what kind of ailments a person is going to suffer, based on his birth-time and other data during his birth. i think admin might be interested! :P
    ha..ha..that is something related to astrology I think. There is always a 50/50 chance in astrological predictions and we can't depend fully on the outcome. But my doubt is that if somebody happen to know what ailment he is going to get in future he can take precautionary measures and most likely he will not get affected by the diseases. Then the whole purpose of the prediction is defeated.

    Whereas computer is concerned, it's findings are always based on facts and proper analysis. As @Rubie has mentioned Computer got lot of powers which are yet to explore fully. But I still can't believe how a computer can predict about somebody's death!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaMaverick View Post
    there's a scientist who has developed a software (software or a method of calculations, can't recall) that can 'predict' the likelihood of what kind of ailments a person is going to suffer, based on his birth-time and other data during his birth. i think admin might be interested! :P
    If this may become possible then there's a possibility of curing a particular person's diseases. As what @webworld said, it is somehow an astrological basis of computation. Better elaboration might be shared, so that we can understand the whole picture of what your informative idea is about.

    I stil belive that behind those supercomputers, a specific person really is the one who made this innovation possible. Those computers are just programmed to execute a certian task coded by a brilliant programmer. Whoever made the supercomputer in BBDIMC, is truly a genius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webworld View Post
    ha..ha..that is something related to astrology I think. There is always a 50/50 chance in astrological predictions and we can't depend fully on the outcome. But my doubt is that if somebody happen to know what ailment he is going to get in future he can take precautionary measures and most likely he will not get affected by the diseases. Then the whole purpose of the prediction is defeated.

    Whereas computer is concerned, it's findings are always based on facts and proper analysis. As @Rubie has mentioned Computer got lot of powers which are yet to explore fully. But I still can't believe how a computer can predict about somebody's death!
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    If this may become possible then there's a possibility of curing a particular person's diseases. As what @webworld said, it is somehow an astrological basis of computation. Better elaboration might be shared, so that we can understand the whole picture of what your informative idea is about.

    I stil belive that behind those supercomputers, a specific person really is the one who made this innovation possible. Those computers are just programmed to execute a certian task coded by a brilliant programmer. Whoever made the supercomputer in BBDIMC, is truly a genius.
    at the outset it does seem that the software may've to do something related with astrological computations, but it isn't so. in astrology too, AFAIK, a competent astrologer tries to hone his skill by studying hundreds of horoscopes of a given kind, matches his calculations and predictions for each to find similarities, then arrives at a common conclusion as to what things/predictions can be given sureshot for a given kind of horoscope. in other words, this is the actual rigorous method of statistics and (data-)science to find/arrive at replicable results, with least room for 'chance' to factor in. careful observation & study --> replication --> conclusion & recording of inference.....this way, that 50/50 thing is (to be) brought down to say 60-40, 70-30, 80-20, 90-10, and a few rare times nearing 100% (rest leaving to providence). say in prashna-jyotish or question-answer kind of session, if the astrologer tells some past-details about you with even 60% accuracy, that's a great feat in itself!
    (ofcourse apart from these academic methods, spiritual practices like meditation are also of prime importance esp. for any astrologer worth his salt).

    the software i wrote about again uses data-collation (like what i mentioned above in case of astrology), albeit, this data is not based on planetary movements but, again, as i wrote above, diseases suffered by millions of people/patients over a given period of time. more on the algorithm here:

    http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2015/0...h-study-finds/ [this website is a treasure-trove of news and updates, plus articles and links to allied portals, on the supernormal and those topics that are 'embarassing' for the mainstream to cover and discuss about].

    http://www.uhc.com/bmtn-categories/b...sk-study-finds

    but afterall, at the end of it, one could see that the above study is not entirely disconnected with how practical astrology is ideally studied and practised. the study relates and collates data collected from ailments of people born in so-and-so month and season, and applies it in general to others; in astrology is done a similar thing based on recorded and accumulated results/inferences of the effects a subject is most likely to undergo under specific conditions, on the basis of his birth-data (which goes a few steps beyond just month and season).

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    I stil belive that behind those supercomputers, a specific person really is the one who made this innovation possible. Those computers are just programmed to execute a certian task coded by a brilliant programmer. Whoever made the supercomputer in BBDIMC, is truly a genius.
    indeed; and here is one such gem of the country, super-computer scientist Dr. Vijay Bhatkar expressing his amazement at the calculations of Maharshi Bhrigu:


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    While it all sounds very impressive I don't think I'd be trusting a computer to be predicting how long I have left in the world or what I'm going to die of.

    Even if it could be 100% accurate, would you actually want to know? I wouldn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pwarbi View Post
    While it all sounds very impressive I don't think I'd be trusting a computer to be predicting how long I have left in the world or what I'm going to die of.

    Even if it could be 100% accurate, would you actually want to know? I wouldn't.
    Well, nobody wants to die of course and being aware of when to die is a strange idea. The awareness of life expectancy depends on the person who wanted for it. I respect your point, but this information just wanted to inform us on how technology develops. This supercomputer is used for hospitalization purposes, obviously those who are only in the hospital are checked by this innovation. Using this innovation, it helps doctors in the detection of illness and curing it if its still possible. On the other hand, the machine can also detect a patient status if she/he can still live on not.

    This supercomputer does not necessarily inform your life expectancy if your not ill. That is why this is intended for medical use not for general use.

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    Yes, it can be of great help to doctors in an early diagnose of certain diseases. It is of vital importance in most of the deadly diseases like cancer and AIDS.

    I believe even if a computer predicts a person's lifetime after analyzing his present physical condition, that can be improved by enhancing his overall stamina and immunity power. I think after significant improvement, if you check it again through the computer then the prediction will be different. So, in short it can be used for betterment of life in many ways. Let's hope for the best.

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    I think quality of life is just as important as life itself though and while this computer might be able to help doctors prolong life, it might not always be for the best for the patient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwarbi View Post
    I think quality of life is just as important as life itself though and while this computer might be able to help doctors prolong life, it might not always be for the best for the patient.
    Why not best for patient, for as long as there's a cure for an illness, there's still a chance of living. That is the purpose of creating such machine, to save lives. It's just that it also has the ability of life expectancy's early detection which is emphasized here. But with regards to it's way of curing and saving lives is a possibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwarbi View Post
    I think quality of life is just as important as life itself though and while this computer might be able to help doctors prolong life, it might not always be for the best for the patient.
    I think you can think about it from a different perspective too. Patients are the prospective customers of doctors and when the life expectancy increases their customer base is also increasing. So they will do everything possible to increase life expectancy. I agree with your point that we have no idea how long a common man would be able to bear the cost associated with it.

    But if used judiciously its potential in health care field is immense. Just imagine when we are able to predict when a person is going to be ill which enable us to take preventive measures. I think the actual duty of a doctor is to prevent illness and not to treat disease.

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    Computer predictions are done neither by astrology nor by witchcraft but rather by simple statistics.
    In the computer field, this is called Machine Learning.

    For this to work, you need to feed the computer with a large number of sample datasets. The more samples you provide, the better will be the outcome.
    The computer then tries to find relations between the data using algorithms such as the Bayes classifier and linear regression.


    Now when asked a question, say about predicting the life expectancy, it uses the previously gained knowledge to find the answer. The accuracy of the answer largely depends on how much samples you have provided and the algorithms used.

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    Ever heard of those stories where people predict our future?
    They say that we will have a digital world where everything is interconnected. You can shut or open your door with a computer or drive a car with a remote to pick up the children from school. What we can do is endless that is why artificial intelligence is being boosted and worked on.
    Maybe we can even have computers that talk to us or raise us back to life when we die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mwazaule View Post
    Ever heard of those stories where people predict our future?
    They say that we will have a digital world where everything is interconnected. You can shut or open your door with a computer or drive a car with a remote to pick up the children from school. What we can do is endless that is why artificial intelligence is being boosted and worked on.
    Maybe we can even have computers that talk to us or raise us back to life when we die.

    That is true and amazing. Even sky is not the limit for imagination!

    But most the things you quoted will be a reality in near future. Take the case of self driven cars. Eminent car manufacturers like Ford, Volkswagen, BMW have already signed an agreement to develop fully operational self driven cars by 2020. Its test run has already begun. So, that is not a dream any more. We can see this in our lifetime itself.

    Technology is changing at the speed of thought and it can even go beyond our imaginations! But the sad part is that anti-social elements like terrorists make use of it mostly. In the case of self driven cars, just imagine terrorists using it as a suicide bomber, being controlled by a remote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webworld View Post
    A super computer installed at Boston's Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center can actually predict likelihood of a person's death. The hospital authorities have already collected data of more than 25000 people over a period of 30 years for speedy diagnosis. The machine is capable of recognizing any disease and can predict patient's imminent demise. Experts believe that this artificial intelligence can really help doctors to take care of their patients more effectively.

    Patients at the hospital are linked to a super computer which monitors everything in every three minutes and reports to respective doctors with all essential data about the condition of the patient.
    I do not know, I have many doubts about this operation, could you post the news link? It seems that the computer will respond according your current health state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinisouz View Post
    I do not know, I have many doubts about this operation, could you post the news link? It seems that the computer will respond according your current health state.
    I don't know if I can post a link here which may conflict the ToS. But you can just find it by typing "The supercomputer that can predict when you will die" in Google search. You can get the link there.

    It can definitely be a breakthrough in medical field if it becomes a success. It can help doctors in diagnosis and developing precautionary measures. But I haven' heard of anything after this news. I think that is still in the observation stage. Let's hope for the best.

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    I read the story and I do not like, it seems a probabilistic method. It just is based on information from 250 000 people in 30 years. In addition, there is a multitude of diseases and rare diseases. I still think the set is poor, but I believe the project is just beginning.

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    I remember a doctor told an aunt of mine she will die in 6 months because of her cancer but guess what, she is still alive and kicking. Now it makes me wonder about the accuracy of this computer and if that computer can show ways how a person can expand their life expectancy. I don't really believe it will have something to do with diet because there are meat eaters who lived for hundred years and vegans that died of cancer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cashewfruit_wine View Post
    I remember a doctor told an aunt of mine she will die in 6 months because of her cancer but guess what, she is still alive and kicking. Now it makes me wonder about the accuracy of this computer and if that computer can show ways how a person can expand their life expectancy. I don't really believe it will have something to do with diet because there are meat eaters who lived for hundred years and vegans that died of cancer.
    I think you cannot compare a doctor with a computer. A computer is smarter and faster than a doctor in analyzing the given data if it is programmed well to do that. A doctor cannot go inside a patient and find out what is happening there. But a computer can do this by using a tiny camera inside the body. But a computer cannot do anything without accurate data or facilitate it to collect data.

    I think there are more people dying out of smoking than non-smoking. Chance plays a vital role everywhere. The more you smoke, the higher are the chances of cancer. And there are people who never smoke and die out of cancer. As per experts, there are cancer cells inside everybody, but it is not necessary that it will take the form of cancer in all the cases, it needs the right environment.

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    WOW !, that's incredible, a super computer that says our life expectancy. I think that would give a little afraid to use it because who would like to know when you will die, believe anyone. I also think it's accurate if the same habits remain in daily life, but if anything changes, for example the way you eat, as well change our life expectancy considerably and would have to make a new test. Anyway is incredible what science can do these days.

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    I think that would be quite unrealistic to predict like that. I think considering the present health conditions of the patient, the computer may be able to tell the expected life expectancy of the person and not the exact date of death. For this we need to provide the relevant data to the computer or let the computer examine the body of the patient to collect the required data for analysis. I think it is quite possible in that aspect.

    Yes, if there is a significant change in the health standards of the patient this may change over time. Then you might take a new test like sugar or cholestrol level check in blood.

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    It sounds really impressive listening to it and I do think scientists are really working hard to invent such. But I am wondering about its accuracy. I don't think it will be 100% accurate as no inventions has been perfect. But let's see how much or what it can offer.

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    You will die - 100% accurate - no computer needed! As to when you die - when your body gives up the ghost - NO machine can predict this other than by extrapolation of death rate statistics for those with varying health conditions - which do NOT take into account individual genetic strengths /weaknesses. That is why most people die from smoking related conditions but SOME will smoke and drink and go onto live to 100.

    Insurance companies already use these overall (OLD) data to assess what to pay out for annuities and the costs of death insurance - suitably skewed to ensure they make an overall profit - even they get " cheated" by those who buck the trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurtadoluisalex View Post
    You will die - 100% accurate - no computer needed! As to when you die - when your body gives up the ghost - NO machine can predict this other than by extrapolation of death rate statistics for those with varying health conditions - which do NOT take into account individual genetic strengths /weaknesses. That is why most people die from smoking related conditions but SOME will smoke and drink and go onto live to 100.

    Insurance companies already use these overall (OLD) data to assess what to pay out for annuities and the costs of death insurance - suitably skewed to ensure they make an overall profit - even they get " cheated" by those who buck the trend.
    I am thinking the same thing. Still, I doubt the accuracy. And if it is even accurate, I might not going to use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurtadoluisalex View Post
    You will die - 100% accurate - no computer needed! As to when you die - when your body gives up the ghost - NO machine can predict this other than by extrapolation of death rate statistics for those with varying health conditions - which do NOT take into account individual genetic strengths /weaknesses. That is why most people die from smoking related conditions but SOME will smoke and drink and go onto live to 100.

    Insurance companies already use these overall (OLD) data to assess what to pay out for annuities and the costs of death insurance - suitably skewed to ensure they make an overall profit - even they get " cheated" by those who buck the trend.
    I think we are taking it in a wrong perspective. It is not a tool to predict your actual date of death, it is rather a machine capable of analyzing your existing health conditions and suggest how long more your body can live in the present condition. And if there is any significant improvement in your health conditions, this may change drastically. So I think you need to check it in between to keep you updated.

    Whatever it is, I think it is a definite breakthrough in healthcare technology field. Along with the development in Artificial Intelligence this technology also could develop and be more accurate.

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