Thread: new motherboard help

im using pentium "d" 2.8ghz processor.
please suggest good motherboards uder 3000 to 4000 RS supporting upto 8gb ram.

For below 4k rupees try intel dg33 series , for a little above 4k you can get dg35ec mobo which has better in built graphics + dual monitor support (analog as well as DVI) and HD video support

8GB... u intend on using 8GB ??? for gfx design or what ?? well nvm, here is 1 mobo, a little over ur budget :
Palit P35A Motherboard - P35A by: Palit - TechShop.in - Buy Tech

Originally Posted by rajan1311

8GB... u intend on using 8GB ??? for gfx design or what ?? well nvm, here is 1 mobo, a little over ur budget :
Palit P35A Motherboard - P35A by: Palit - TechShop.in - Buy Tech

Support for dual core pentiun D processors is not mentioned over in the mobo specifications.

Pentium D = Dual Core
C2D = Core 2 Duo

lol i know that buddy, but since both are LGA 775..... u can email the support @ techshop and ask them if it is supported. They usually reply the next day.

yes, im gfx designer.when i inquered in some pc shops some said that
"GA-EG31MF-S2" supports 8gb ram. but gigabyte doesnt specify that on their website.and i have graphics card also.

Originally Posted by rajan1311

lol i know that buddy, but since both are LGA 775..... u can email the support @ techshop and ask them if it is supported. They usually reply the next day.

I have a doubt .... if a guy wants to use 8gb ram then he needs

1) 64 bit OS
2) 4 Ram slots
and ofcourse the memory modules

thats it right ?

Originally Posted by sach1000rt

im using pentium "d" 2.8ghz processor.
please suggest good motherboards uder 3000 to 4000 RS supporting upto 8gb ram.

guys to my knowledge "d" refers to dual core and its top freq is 2.2 ghz.
so what processor he is refering to.

go for asus motherboard, because you can get maximum out of the price you pay,
In some asus board , you can get graphics ram upto 256MB inbuild.

processor is pentium d 820(2.8ghz).

buddy he is talkin abt the 'old' pentium D, which strt frm 2.66Ghz (pentium D 805) and the 2.8 and so on till 3.76 GHz ....these are 90nm ones, the one ur talking abt are the ones based on the core 2 architecture in 65nm version.
Yes he needs a 64Bit OS and the motherboard should hav 4 RAM slots. So u are absolutely right.

Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN

I have a doubt .... if a guy wants to use 8gb ram then he needs

1) 64 bit OS
2) 4 Ram slots
and ofcourse the memory modules

thats it right ?

Thats right... Win XP 32 bit supports only upto 4 GB of RAM...

Originally Posted by prasannaganesh

guys to my knowledge "d" refers to dual core and its top freq is 2.2 ghz.
so what processor he is refering to.

go for asus motherboard, because you can get maximum out of the price you pay,
In some asus board , you can get graphics ram upto 256MB inbuild.

Originally Posted by rajan1311

buddy he is talkin abt the 'old' pentium D, which strt frm 2.66Ghz (pentium D 805) and the 2.8 and so on till 3.76 GHz ....these are 90nm ones, the one ur talking abt are the ones based on the core 2 architecture in 65nm version.
Yes he needs a 64Bit OS and the motherboard should hav 4 RAM slots. So u are absolutely right.

Yeah Pentium D had >2.2Ghz def

Because in C2D naming terminology
C2D 2 Ghz = 2*2Ghz = 4Ghz
so
c2d 2Ghz = 4Ghz

But in Dual Core
Pentium D 3 Ghz = 3Ghz

Dont confuse C2D and Dual Core ! they are not the same

After P4 Pentium D was released and after Pentium D core 2 duo was released

Intel Pentium D Dual Core and Intel Core 2 Duo are not the same

Pentium D is the older architecture

Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN

Yeah Pentium D had >2.2Ghz def

Because in C2D naming terminology
C2D 2 Ghz = 2*2Ghz = 4Ghz
so
c2d 2Ghz = 4Ghz

But in Dual Core
Pentium D 3 Ghz = 3Ghz

Wat makes you say that ? Both the processors have two cores running at the same speed.

If wat u say is correct can u quote some reference.

Dont confuse C2D and Dual Core ! they are not the same

Pentium D is the older architecture

True , most people tend to consider them as same.

well x86 Oss support only upto 3gb ram.so i know i have to use x64 os.
and i have a graphics card so im not worried about onboard graphics card.

Originally Posted by itsmemad

Thats right... Win XP 32 bit supports only upto 4 GB of RAM...

To make it a bit more clear, 32 bit XP can USE upto 3GB RAM only, it can detect 4GB but can not use it.

That is cuz a huge chunk of the 4GB ram is going to PCI-Express, Onboard devices, peripherals and whatever...

i dont think that's the reason...... for now,lets just take it as a rule, will get more info on that issue..... lets get back to the main problem, does any1 hav any motherboards to suggest??

Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN

Yeah Pentium D had >2.2Ghz def

Because in C2D naming terminology
C2D 2 Ghz = 2*2Ghz = 4Ghz
so
c2d 2Ghz = 4Ghz

But in Dual Core
Pentium D 3 Ghz = 3Ghz

lol i fail to understand that calculation buddy. But nvm, The OLD pentium D's have long been phased out. m not confused abt c2d and pentium d. What i meant was that the OLD pentium D's were 2 P4's on 1 die. The 'newer' pentium D's hav a similar architecture to the c2d but a lot less cache.

Originally Posted by newprouser

Wat makes you say that ? Both the processors have two cores running at the same speed.

If wat u say is correct can u quote some reference.



True , most people tend to consider them as same.

If u check computer hardware info for Pentium D it ll show you 3 Ghz full

But for c2d it ll show 2 Ghz for 2 separate processors [in XP]

Its how Intel specifies the speed for PD and c2d

Originally Posted by itsmemad

That is cuz a huge chunk of the 4GB ram is going to PCI-Express, Onboard devices, peripherals and whatever...

chunk of 4Gb ram is going to PCI-E , Pheripherals ???

Thats not true man

And Integrated Graphics and dedicated graphics cannot be used at the same time .

Peripheral devices like Keyboard , joystick etc have their own dedicated buffer memory , they do not use ram

Originally Posted by rajan1311

lol i fail to understand that calculation buddy

I find it difficult to explain it clearly . U just check system info of somebody who has a c2d u ll understand .

. But nvm, The OLD pentium D's have long been phased out. m not confused abt c2d and pentium d. What i meant was that the OLD pentium D's were 2 P4's on 1 die. The 'newer' pentium D's hav a similar architecture to the c2d but a lot less cache.

Dude Dude !
The c2d is based completely on a new architecture that is the 'core architecture' . No other processor before Core 2 duo is based on the core micro architecture !

Both the 'old' and the 'new' pentium D are based on the NetBurst architecture which is the same as that used for P4
So like u said it can be thought of as 2 p4 cores on a single die .

Under Pentium D Intel introduced 2 processor families Smithfield and Presler .... i guess thats what u r referring to as old and new Pentium D ?

Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN

chunk of 4Gb ram is going to PCI-E , Pheripherals ???

Thats not true man

And Integrated Graphics and dedicated graphics cannot be used at the same time .

Peripheral devices like Keyboard , joystick etc have their own dedicated buffer memory , they do not use ram

I know integrated graphics & dedicated graphics can't be used at same time..lol..

But RAM is shared by many integrated graphics card... For ex.- My laptop's onboard graphic's card utlizes 384MB of 2GB RAM... Thats a huge chunk of memory... That's what I meant exactly by my statement...

Originally Posted by itsmemad

I know integrated graphics & dedicated graphics can't be used at same time..lol..

But RAM is shared by many integrated graphics card... For ex.- My laptop's onboard graphic's card utlizes 384MB of 2GB RAM... Thats a huge chunk of memory... That's what I meant exactly by my statement...

http://www.indiabroadband.net/deskto...-solution.html (What is Integrated and Dedicated Graphics solution ?)
I am not saying otherwise .
i agree that
System Ram is shared by all integrated graphics card . Dedicated gfx cards have their own ram ofcourse .


He said he already had a dedicated graphic card .
thats y i said u cant use both integrated gfx and dedicated gfx . so his ram is not being used for integrated gfx

Apart from that only processor uses the ram . No other pheripheral device uses system ram
integrated gfx itself is a graphic processor thats y it needs ram

Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN
Because in C2D naming terminology
C2D 2 Ghz = 2*2Ghz = 4Ghz
so
c2d 2Ghz = 4Ghz

But in Dual Core
Pentium D 3 Ghz = 3Ghz

@shadowclon a little correction here.i hope you don't mind.dual core 2 GHz is not equal to 4Ghz.2GHz dual core just mean 2 cores each running at 2Ghz.dual cores are faster even though their clock speeds are slower than old 3-4GHz processors because they can mutitask much more efficiently including handling instructions.infact many games will run faster on a dual core 3Ghz than a quad core 2.4Ghz because most games are not optimized to fully use the 4 cores becuase of their code.

Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN

Dude Dude !
The c2d is based completely on a new architecture that is the 'core architecture' . No other processor before Core 2 duo is based on the core micro architecture !

Both the 'old' and the 'new' pentium D are based on the NetBurst architecture which is the same as that used for P4
So like u said it can be thought of as 2 p4 cores on a single die .

Under Pentium D Intel introduced 2 processor families Smithfield and Presler .... i guess thats what u r referring to as old and new Pentium D ?

oh ok....... i did not know that......thx buddy.

If I am not mistaken, Win 32 supports 3 GB RAM only.

Originally Posted by whitestar_999

@shadowclon a little correction here.i hope you don't mind.dual core 2 GHz is not equal to 4Ghz.2GHz dual core just mean 2 cores each running at 2Ghz.dual cores are faster even though their clock speeds are slower than old 3-4GHz processors because they can mutitask much more efficiently including handling instructions.infact many games will run faster on a dual core 3Ghz than a quad core 2.4Ghz because most games are not optimized to fully use the 4 cores becuase of their code.

No i dont mind

I agree with all the above .... but the 2 cores are parallel processing [not always] so they can be thought of as 4 ghz ..... but when there is not much load generally only one core is running .....

the 2 cores share the same system bus and other such resource ... but they also have their own resources like processor clock
so its not wrong to consider them as 2+2

Originally Posted by just4kix

If I am not mistaken, Win 32 supports 3 GB RAM only.

yeah correct

i have a question.
how much RAM does the vista(32 bit) support.