Thread: Suggesion For New Gaming PC around 30K-40K

Originally Posted by abcd_virus_007

I am the starter of this thread.

Budget is around 30K-40K

It would be better, if budget does not exeed 35K.
And I need this configuration for Game playing. GPU like ATI 4850\4870. High end.

Accessories I required are:
Processor
MOBO (IDE suported)
RAM
GPU
HDD(500GB)
Cabinet
PSU.

Note: If there is any procedure, so that I can use My IDE DVD Writer and IDE 80GB HDD on SATA port, then I do not required any IDE port.

Regarding PSU I have very less idea. Please suggest.

Thanks.

Alright here's my opinion

Processor: Intel core 2 duo E8400(3.0 Ghz as going for quad core is not worth as the intel nehalem processors are on the rampage) or you can still look at Intel Core 2 Q8200

Motherboard: Asus P5 N-E SLI(i own this one ) or Zotac GeForce 9300

Ram: Corsair XMS2 4 GB DDR 2 800 Mhz(1x4 GB or 2x2 GB for dual channel configuration)

GPU: XFX GeForce 9600GT 512 MB DDR3

HDD: Segate 7200.11 ST3500320AS

Cabinet: Look for any decent cabinet with plenty of room and vents with additional 120 MM fans at the rear end and on the side pannel

Power supply: Antec or VIP or Coolermaster will do but you have to pay a premium for these PSU if you are going to buy these(starting is from 3,000 rs) else wise you can go with a decent 450 W power supply from i ball or from frontech!

Can u suggest any other than SLI MOBO.

What abt MSI K9A2 with Phenom X4 9650. I got this in Techshop


Another One:

How PSU effects the M\C. I mean other that supplying power.
Mean what kind of Advantage I am going to get over a costly PSU

Thanks

A cheap PSU can be costly .
Well, as u know that high end products require lots of power. If they do not get adequate power, ur system will be unstable. It will re boot, and it may damage some components. The one i had told is modular too. So, u use the chords that u need. Lot easier.


Y u go 4 SLI when ur planning to get an ATI card. IMO, just get a GOOD single card. If u wanna get a mobo to support crossfireX, the following support it:
1)Stay away frm this(NOT recommended):
MSI K9A2 CF-F Motherboard - K9A2 CF-F by: MSI - TechShop.in - Buy Tech


2)This is wat is recommended:
MSI K9A2 Platinum v2.0 Motherboard - K9A2 Platinum by: MSI -

Supports Quad crossfireX (i know its an overkill), but its a good board.

3) For a 780G mobo(my fav)
Asus M3A78-EM Motherboard - M3A78-EM by: Asus - TechShop.in - Buy Tech

Originally Posted by player

Alright here's my opinion

Processor: Intel core 2 duo E8400(3.0 Ghz as going for quad core is not worth as the intel nehalem processors are on the rampage) or you can still look at Intel Core 2 Q8200

Motherboard: Asus P5 N-E SLI(i own this one ) or Zotac GeForce 9300

Ram: Corsair XMS2 4 GB DDR 2 800 Mhz(1x4 GB or 2x2 GB for dual channel configuration)

GPU: XFX GeForce 9600GT 512 MB DDR3

HDD: Segate 7200.11 ST3500320AS

Cabinet: Look for any decent cabinet with plenty of room and vents with additional 120 MM fans at the rear end and on the side pannel

Power supply: Antec or VIP or Coolermaster will do but you have to pay a premium for these PSU if you are going to buy these(starting is from 3,000 rs) else wise you can go with a decent 450 W power supply from i ball or from frontech!

Do u own the system above ???
I m pretty sure that the P5NE supports SLI at 8x 8x config. Thats bad. Greatly reduces the bandwidth even for a 9600GT(in SLI).
Also, are the Pci-e slots gen 2.0 ?? Btw, XFX takes a premium. If ur low on budget, look for a better card(non XFX).

I would never suggest a iball PSU, or even a VIP. Quality not good. Do u even get a pci-e connector with an iball or VIP(mine did not have). He wanted a 4870 . That requires 2xpci-e connectors which i m SURE is not present on an iball.

Instead of the Q8200, just go for a Phenom II 920. Performs slightly better and costs same. U could go for any1, its ur choice. The rest looks good. But i think the total costs would end up a lot more than 40K if u get a 4870.
I will post the specs with total costs soon. Techshop is on a roll. They are giving HUGE price cuts on the QX9650. It was 47K 1 week ago, now its 20K. Hold on to ur money if u ask me. More price cuts around the corner.

No i dont own the system which i have stated except from some parts

Originally Posted by rajan1311

Do u own the system above ???
I m pretty sure that the P5NE supports SLI at 8x 8x config. Thats bad.

Why it is bad each and every board gives SLI at 8x so that total is 16x

Originally Posted by rajan1311

I would never suggest a iball PSU, or even a VIP. Quality not good. Do u even get a pci-e connector with an iball or VIP(mine did not have). He wanted a 4870 . That requires 2xpci-e connectors which i m SURE is not present on an iball.

I have already stated that if money is a constraint in spending in a power supply then go for those brands i.e. iball or frontech

And i didnt know that he is going for 4870 and besides i am sure that there must be a option in VIP for a pci-e connector, VIP is a good Indian brand when comparing to others and is a lot cheaper too

Originally Posted by rajan1311

Instead of the Q8200, just go for a Phenom II 920. Performs slightly better and costs same.

How can you say that do you own both the processors?? and as a matter of fact these days Intel RULES as having 6-12 MB L2 caches they are simply unbeatable

Bro 8x for each card is insufficient. Good boards give 16x 16x each. The780i and that kind.
Those PSU are NOT good. If u have a money constrain, save in other places but not on the PSU.

My fren, if u read many reviews u can say that the Phenom 2 is way faster. Also, u have not done ur homework, The Q8200 has 4MB l2 Cache, whereas the Phenom 2 has 2MB l2 cache+6MB l3 cache. You make no sense when u say Intel are ruling these days. The days have changed, Phenom 2 is also selling well.

See the following reviews and comment:
AMD Phenom 2 X4 940 Black Edition Processor - Introduction - DriverHeaven.net
Icrontic » AMD Phenom II review
ModReactor, hardware, reviews, news, modding, case mods, projects, guides, tutorials - AMD Phenom II X4 940 - first AMD Phenom 45nm CPU, Deneb Core
AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition Review - CPUs and Memory Reviews - TrustedReviews
AMD Phenom II X4 940 Review - Overclockers Club

Hi,

@rajan

For a 780G mobo(my fav)
Asus M3A78-EM Motherboard - M3A78-EM by: Asus - TechShop.in - Buy Tech

Does it contain any IDE port. Can U please confirm.
Otherwise this is good with Phenom II 920.

And regarding PSu anything within 3-3.5K.

Thanks

Since they do provide a IDE/pata chord, i m guessing they do have a IDE port. But if its there, u will get only 1.
Call techshop support and ask them. Their number is on their website.

If u wanna go for a 4850, u could get a decent PSU for that cost. But, i would recommend that u w8 another week or 2 before u buy anything. Many new products should come. Hence there should be price cuts.I will keep u informed on any such price cuts.So keep checking in.

Rajan,

Just for knowledge,

Is there any difference w.r.t. performance between MB with Integrated graphics and without integrated graphics?

I just hard from some one that MB without integrated graphics performs better with external GPU.

Thanks

I did not exactly understand what u meant. But, when u use an external Gfx card, ur onboard card is disabled. Hence it will make no difference if u have an onboard Gfx card or not.
I prefer onboard on bcos if ur card dies, u can still use the comp, u will have backup.

Originally Posted by abcd_virus_007

Is there any difference w.r.t. performance between MB with Integrated graphics and without integrated graphics?
I just hard from some one that MB without integrated graphics performs better with external GPU.
Thanks

Always go for a dedicated GPU solution if u are into games. Onboard GPUs are a strict no no if u are into gaming. Ofcourse there is marked performance difference between the onboard and offboard GPU solutions.

The second statement can be considered as a myth

That means for a Gaming PC,

I should go for a MOBO, that does not have any inbuilt Graphics.

But definitely MOBO having integrated graphics is a safer option.

Originally Posted by abcd_virus_007

But definitely MOBO having integrated graphics is a safer option.

Yes it is. If the offboard GPU conks out, u can still use the PC for daily activities..

Which one of following will be better (with HD 4850, 4GB RAM)

1. Intel C2D E8400, (Its FSB 1333MHz)
Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R/ MSI P45 Neo3-FR

2. AMD Phenom X4 9850
Asus M3A78-EM

In most games at present, E8400 is gonna be a lot faster. In a few more optimised games, maybe the 9850 is gonna be as fast. Between the two, i would go 4 E8400.

But hey y dont u just w8 a bit more for the 920 to come down. More price cuts soon(AM3 due in mid-late feb). That time a 920 with TDP of 95W is gonna come out too.

GTA 4 is one of those quad core optimised games. See this :

I can go for 920 now also. It is 11.5K.

Will it better over E8400?

I am altering little bit,

1. Intel C2D E8400, (Its FSB 1333MHz)
Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R/ MSI P45 Neo3-FR

2. AMD Phenom X4 II 920
Asus M3A78-EM

Among above which one is better?

And regarding waiting, right now I have no M\C at my home. So lots of work are stuck.

I can very well understand what you are asking. But I am helpless.

Please suggest from above.

Phenom 920 anyday IMO. So, go 4 it !!
Avoid DDR2 1066 memory with it.

Bought a new PC....

AMD Processor
Asus M3A78-EM
Palit Ultracool 4850
Cooler Master Extreme power 600W
Cooler Master cabinet 334 Elite.

Now real bad news is this m\c gives a new problem.

Sometimes, when I press power button to switch on computer, some noise is coming out from Graphics Card. No display is coming to Monitor.
Whenever this noise comes, no display, computer does not boots up.
Otherwise works fine.
These probelm does not happens every time. happen some time.say 4 cases out of 10.

One thing may happen because due to some extra cooler, GPU sometime gets loose as this MB does not have any extra clip in PCI slot. This is my notion.

Any idea guys...

Thanks

DUDE THERE HAS TO BE A CLIP(Pci-e slot).



PS: can u guys see the pic ??? I cant but the link is there.

Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, Digital Cameras and more!

pls temme rajan wat will be ur configuration 4 a good gamin pc..
budget 40,000..jus da cpu wit keyboard N mouse 2
configuration wit price given will be much helpful..thankyou

hey rajan i need ur help regardin purchasin a gaming cpu..
i've read all da reviews but im still confused..so plz give da information about best gaming cpu for 30-40 k..it must be able 2 play gta4 smoothly n also the latest highend games..
so plz write config with price details, which will be much helpful also about a keyboard N mouse 2 under 30-40k..thankyou

also try 2 gimme config for 30k first even if if exceeds a lil bit of cost no problem..cheaper da better

also try 2 gimme config for 30k first even if if exceeds a lil bit of cost no problem..cheaper da better

^^ Hey buddy, u have a good budget.

In order to play GTA4 and games like crysis smoothly u may need to triple ur budget. But at this cost, i can assure u that at 1280x768, u will be able to play them at max quality.

Processor:
AMD Phenom 2 720X3 2.8GHz 6MB L3 cache
AMD Phenom II X3 720 HDZ720WFGIBOX Black Edition Processor -

8.6K

Motherboard:
Biostar TA790GX
Biostar TA790GX 128M Motherboard - TA790GX 128M by: Biostar -

5.4k

RAM (memory)
4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 800MHz Corsair

3.6K

Graphics Card:
as usual, will suggest ATI4850 to any1 who does not care abt high temps.
u can get it for as low as 8k.
TheITWares - Graphic Cards


Hard drive:
Western Digital Caviar 640GB
Western Digital Caviar GP WD6400AACS 640GB SATA Hard Drive -

3.8k


Power supply:
Corsair CMPSU-450VX 450W Power Supply
Corsair CMPSU-450VX 450W Power Supply - CMPSU-450VX by: Corsair -
4.2K

Optical drive:
Go with any brand u like. I do NOT like my sony drive. Will not comment much on it.

1.3k

Case:
Cooler Master Elite 335
Rs 2.3k

Keyboard and mouse:
Logitech g1
Logitech G1 Gaming Desktop 967657-0132 Black Keyboard + Mouse -

U can get it 4 as low as 1.1k.
I stay in bangalore, here u can get it in SPAR for 1.1k


The total cost comes upto 39k.

I u need it to go lower, tell me, i will look 4 more options.
Do NOT feel bad/embarrassed while telling a low budget.

Y the above rig ??
The reason i chose a biostar Motherboard is that it is a good quality brand. Also, it has SB750. Now what that means is that if u get lucky, u can unlock the 4th core of ur processor. Many of those who had unlocked it, found it to be very stable.
ATI 4850 is the minimum u need to play newer games at max. anything above (9800GTX+) will not only be more costly, but also require 2x6pin pci e connectors, which will further increase the cost of ur comp(cos u will need better power supply).
4GB of is a not too important. U can use 3GB too and save 1k on that. Upto u.
the HDD was a steal at that price !!
For the PSU, corsair is one of the best brands.If u wanna learn more abt PSU, read this very nice article:
http://www.indiabroadband.net/deskto...ply-funda.html (The supposedly guide to the power supply funda)

m runnin out of time, will giv u a cheaper alternative tomorrow.

ok

This one should fit u more i guess, lil cheaper, more or less same performance:

Processor:
AMD Phenom 2 720X3 2.8GHz 6MB L3 cache
AMD Phenom II X3 720 HDZ720WFGIBOX Black Edition Processor

8.6k

Motherboard:
Biostar TA780G
Biostar TA780G Motherboard - TA780G by: Biostar - TechShop.in - Buy

3.8K

Memory:
2GB(2x1GB) DDR2 800MHz corsair ram
1.7k

The rest is pretty much same.
U can get the same PSU for a lesser cost at a local shop. Plz do not get tempted by Rs 500 walla PSU. Corsair PSU are highly recommended.

This turns out to be about 3k cheaper.

hey thanx pal...lyk u said its bit expensive 2...but i'll reduce the hdd..i wouldnt need that much...
N wat is da best between these 2..since both r of same price??
AMD Phenom 2 720X3 2.8GHz 6MB L3 cache
AMD Phenom II X3 720 HDZ720WFGIBOX Black Edition Processor..
thanx again..

also plz suggest me a good laptop from 40-50 k..especially its for recording purpose...so plz suggest me da one which has good sound card n has got all necessary jacks...overall da best within dis price...thanx dude

a doubt plz...wats wit unlocking 4th core of processor..i didnt get it!!
or how 2 unlock it??

Originally Posted by lilash

hey thanx pal...lyk u said its bit expensive 2...but i'll reduce the hdd..i wouldnt need that much...
N wat is da best between these 2..since both r of same price??
AMD Phenom 2 720X3 2.8GHz 6MB L3 cache
AMD Phenom II X3 720 HDZ720WFGIBOX Black Edition Processor..

Both are the same processors.

Originally Posted by lilash

a doubt plz...wats wit unlocking 4th core of processor..i didnt get it!!
or how 2 unlock it??

This processor is a TRI core processor. Meaning, it has 3 functional cores.
The thing is, AMD just disabled a core frm a Quad core processor and made it a Tri core.

U can/have a chance of enabling that extra core in the BIOS.
U just have to go to ACC settings, and set it to auto and walla, ur done !!!
When u go to windows, u will now see 4 cores instead of 3.

Most of the ppl who did it on this motherboard have found it to be stable too.

So u end up getting a very fast quad core processor at 8.6k !!.

PS: There are some AMD processors which have 4MB L3 cache instead of 6MB, there are ways to enable that extra 2MB on a 4MB L3 cache chip too. Will strt a thread on it soon.

thanQ so much..u've been so helpful..i found no thread regarding laptops for 40-50k...anyways i'll start a new thread in laptop..

chk this:
http://www.indiabroadband.net/laptop...od-laptop.html (Help me Choose a Good Laptop)