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abcd_virus_007

Hi Guys,

My current PC has almost gone. I have posted the problem is other thread.
If that One is not fixed, I have to Go for a New one.

I am going with

Intel Quad Core 6600
ATI 4870/4850
2 GB RAM DDR2 800MHz
500 GB HDD Western Digital

Please Suggest a Motherboard Having IDE port.
Please also suggest PSU and cabinet.

Thanks.

rajan1311

Nahi nahi nahi !!!
Q6600 is totally outdated. Intel will stop producing it now. Go for the Phenom 2 920(11.5K) . Get a cheap(i mean cost not quality) 780G motherboard.

Plz tell ur budget for PSU and case.
M not too sure on the IDE support, will chk and post some motherboards.

Yes, the Core2 extreme prices have dropped (just last week). Still, they cost 30K. Useless for us IMO.

abcd_virus_007

I am the starter of this thread.

Budget is around 30K-40K

It would be better, if budget does not exeed 35K.
And I need this configuration for Game playing. GPU like ATI 4850\4870. High end.

Accessories I required are:
Processor
MOBO (IDE suported)
RAM
GPU
HDD(500GB)
Cabinet
PSU.

Note: If there is any procedure, so that I can use My IDE DVD Writer and IDE 80GB HDD on SATA port, then I do not required any IDE port.

Regarding PSU I have very less idea. Please suggest.

Thanks.

rajan1311

Try this PSU:
Cooler Master RS520-ASAAA1Real Power M520 520W Power Supply -

Look at this case:
Thermaltake M9 Series VI1000BWS Mid Tower Computer Case - M9 VI1000BWS

But, i will say again, w8. The RV790 is just gonna come out. It will be cheaper and cooler. Will replace the 4850/4870 .

abcd_virus_007

Just one thing know.

R U asking me to buy this things through online shopping?

Because Even 4850 is not easily in market. It is released long ago.

player

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Originally Posted by abcd_virus_007 I am the starter of this thread. Budget is around 30K-40K It would be better, if budget does not exeed 35K. And I need this configuration for Game playing. GPU like ATI 4850\4870. High end. Accessories I required are: Processor MOBO (IDE suported) RAM GPU HDD(500GB) Cabinet PSU. Note: If there is any procedure, so that I can use My IDE DVD Writer and IDE 80GB HDD on SATA port, then I do not required any IDE port. Regarding PSU I have very less idea. Please suggest. Thanks.

Alright here's my opinion

Processor: Intel core 2 duo E8400(3.0 Ghz as going for quad core is not worth as the intel nehalem processors are on the rampage) or you can still look at Intel Core 2 Q8200

Motherboard: Asus P5 N-E SLI(i own this one ) or Zotac GeForce 9300

Ram: Corsair XMS2 4 GB DDR 2 800 Mhz(1x4 GB or 2x2 GB for dual channel configuration)

GPU: XFX GeForce 9600GT 512 MB DDR3

HDD: Segate 7200.11 ST3500320AS

Cabinet: Look for any decent cabinet with plenty of room and vents with additional 120 MM fans at the rear end and on the side pannel

Power supply: Antec or VIP or Coolermaster will do but you have to pay a premium for these PSU if you are going to buy these(starting is from 3,000 rs) else wise you can go with a decent 450 W power supply from i ball or from frontech!

abcd_virus_007

Can u suggest any other than SLI MOBO.

What abt MSI K9A2 with Phenom X4 9650. I got this in Techshop


Another One:

How PSU effects the M\C. I mean other that supplying power.
Mean what kind of Advantage I am going to get over a costly PSU

Thanks

rajan1311

A cheap PSU can be costly .
Well, as u know that high end products require lots of power. If they do not get adequate power, ur system will be unstable. It will re boot, and it may damage some components. The one i had told is modular too. So, u use the chords that u need. Lot easier.


Y u go 4 SLI when ur planning to get an ATI card. IMO, just get a GOOD single card. If u wanna get a mobo to support crossfireX, the following support it:
1)Stay away frm this(NOT recommended):
MSI K9A2 CF-F Motherboard - K9A2 CF-F by: MSI - TechShop.in - Buy Tech


2)This is wat is recommended:
MSI K9A2 Platinum v2.0 Motherboard - K9A2 Platinum by: MSI -

Supports Quad crossfireX (i know its an overkill), but its a good board.

3) For a 780G mobo(my fav)
Asus M3A78-EM Motherboard - M3A78-EM by: Asus - TechShop.in - Buy Tech

Do u own the system above ???
I m pretty sure that the P5NE supports SLI at 8x 8x config. Thats bad. Greatly reduces the bandwidth even for a 9600GT(in SLI).
Also, are the Pci-e slots gen 2.0 ?? Btw, XFX takes a premium. If ur low on budget, look for a better card(non XFX).

I would never suggest a iball PSU, or even a VIP. Quality not good. Do u even get a pci-e connector with an iball or VIP(mine did not have). He wanted a 4870 . That requires 2xpci-e connectors which i m SURE is not present on an iball.

Instead of the Q8200, just go for a Phenom II 920. Performs slightly better and costs same. U could go for any1, its ur choice. The rest looks good. But i think the total costs would end up a lot more than 40K if u get a 4870.
I will post the specs with total costs soon. Techshop is on a roll. They are giving HUGE price cuts on the QX9650. It was 47K 1 week ago, now its 20K. Hold on to ur money if u ask me. More price cuts around the corner.

player

No i dont own the system which i have stated except from some parts

Quote:

Originally Posted by rajan1311 Do u own the system above ??? I m pretty sure that the P5NE supports SLI at 8x 8x config. Thats bad.

Why it is bad each and every board gives SLI at 8x so that total is 16x

Quote:

Originally Posted by rajan1311 I would never suggest a iball PSU, or even a VIP. Quality not good. Do u even get a pci-e connector with an iball or VIP(mine did not have). He wanted a 4870 . That requires 2xpci-e connectors which i m SURE is not present on an iball.

I have already stated that if money is a constraint in spending in a power supply then go for those brands i.e. iball or frontech

And i didnt know that he is going for 4870 and besides i am sure that there must be a option in VIP for a pci-e connector, VIP is a good Indian brand when comparing to others and is a lot cheaper too

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Originally Posted by rajan1311 Instead of the Q8200, just go for a Phenom II 920. Performs slightly better and costs same.

How can you say that do you own both the processors?? and as a matter of fact these days Intel RULES as having 6-12 MB L2 caches they are simply unbeatable

rajan1311

Bro 8x for each card is insufficient. Good boards give 16x 16x each. The780i and that kind.
Those PSU are NOT good. If u have a money constrain, save in other places but not on the PSU.

My fren, if u read many reviews u can say that the Phenom 2 is way faster. Also, u have not done ur homework, The Q8200 has 4MB l2 Cache, whereas the Phenom 2 has 2MB l2 cache+6MB l3 cache. You make no sense when u say Intel are ruling these days. The days have changed, Phenom 2 is also selling well.

See the following reviews and comment:
AMD Phenom 2 X4 940 Black Edition Processor - Introduction - DriverHeaven.net
Icrontic » AMD Phenom II review
ModReactor, hardware, reviews, news, modding, case mods, projects, guides, tutorials - AMD Phenom II X4 940 - first AMD Phenom 45nm CPU, Deneb Core
AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition Review - CPUs and Memory Reviews - TrustedReviews
AMD Phenom II X4 940 Review - Overclockers Club

abcd_virus_007

Hi,

@rajan

For a 780G mobo(my fav)
Asus M3A78-EM Motherboard - M3A78-EM by: Asus - TechShop.in - Buy Tech

Does it contain any IDE port. Can U please confirm.
Otherwise this is good with Phenom II 920.

And regarding PSu anything within 3-3.5K.

Thanks

rajan1311

Since they do provide a IDE/pata chord, i m guessing they do have a IDE port. But if its there, u will get only 1.
Call techshop support and ask them. Their number is on their website.

If u wanna go for a 4850, u could get a decent PSU for that cost. But, i would recommend that u w8 another week or 2 before u buy anything. Many new products should come. Hence there should be price cuts.I will keep u informed on any such price cuts.So keep checking in.

abcd_virus_007

Rajan,

Just for knowledge,

Is there any difference w.r.t. performance between MB with Integrated graphics and without integrated graphics?

I just hard from some one that MB without integrated graphics performs better with external GPU.

Thanks

rajan1311

I did not exactly understand what u meant. But, when u use an external Gfx card, ur onboard card is disabled. Hence it will make no difference if u have an onboard Gfx card or not.
I prefer onboard on bcos if ur card dies, u can still use the comp, u will have backup.

cool_techie_tvm

Always go for a dedicated GPU solution if u are into games. Onboard GPUs are a strict no no if u are into gaming. Ofcourse there is marked performance difference between the onboard and offboard GPU solutions.

The second statement can be considered as a myth

abcd_virus_007

That means for a Gaming PC,

I should go for a MOBO, that does not have any inbuilt Graphics.

But definitely MOBO having integrated graphics is a safer option.

cool_techie_tvm

Yes it is. If the offboard GPU conks out, u can still use the PC for daily activities..

abcd_virus_007

Which one of following will be better (with HD 4850, 4GB RAM)

1. Intel C2D E8400, (Its FSB 1333MHz)
Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R/ MSI P45 Neo3-FR

2. AMD Phenom X4 9850
Asus M3A78-EM

rajan1311

In most games at present, E8400 is gonna be a lot faster. In a few more optimised games, maybe the 9850 is gonna be as fast. Between the two, i would go 4 E8400.

But hey y dont u just w8 a bit more for the 920 to come down. More price cuts soon(AM3 due in mid-late feb). That time a 920 with TDP of 95W is gonna come out too.

GTA 4 is one of those quad core optimised games. See this :

abcd_virus_007

I can go for 920 now also. It is 11.5K.

Will it better over E8400?

I am altering little bit,

1. Intel C2D E8400, (Its FSB 1333MHz)
Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R/ MSI P45 Neo3-FR

2. AMD Phenom X4 II 920
Asus M3A78-EM

Among above which one is better?

And regarding waiting, right now I have no M\C at my home. So lots of work are stuck.

I can very well understand what you are asking. But I am helpless.

Please suggest from above.