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Old 01-22-09, 09:43 AM   #1
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Thumbs up High Definition HTPC with Blu-Ray

thats nice. But i called up a guy in blore for the price, he said its 13k. Can u plz send the source. If its 6k, i m getting it!

k i just chked
Its $250 !!!
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[ Hardware.Info ] - LG GGWH20L [GGW-H20L]


cheapest one on newegg is $199.
So, all those guys who wanted to buy 1, have to w8 more.

But, u can get BLuray roms for as low as $85 (Rs 4080).

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Wrong!
Blue-ray drives are already retailing around 6k, i saw one in croma
for playing blue-ray you can get a PS3, which comes around 30k. or better use a HTPC.


ANd blank BR disc comes around Rs.200 per disc
Blank discs are Rs750 in Bangalore. Where do u stay man, all stuff is so cheap. Now no more shopping for me in Singapore !

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Let me put a full stop on the argument.
  • People are calling Blu-ray experience. This term is wrong. The correct term is True (or full) High Definition experience.
  • You can have a blu-ray drive on your laptop and even an HD monitor. That does not mean you are getting true HD experience. Yes, I mean it.
  • For a true HD experience, you need the following:
    • HD source (this may be Blu-ray or (the now defunct) HD-DVD
    • HDMI or DVI connection - component or composite will not do.
    • A TV or minitor whose native resolution is 1920x1080 with progressive scan having HDMI or DVI input
    • Dolby TruHD or DTS HD decoder
    • A 7.1 channel surround sound system with at least 75W per channel
    • A linear amplifier
    • Optional - THX certification
So unless your PC has that all this, I am afraid that you are deluding yourself. On a PC, check the software player. Older versions of PowerDVD/WinDVD etc. were not capable of HD. They will downscale the HD signal to SD and then send it to your monitor. So this is also an important factor.

Finally to enjoy the HD quality video, you should have a TV/monitor that is at least 40" in width.
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Old 01-22-09, 12:47 PM   #3
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just adding in, the only sound card that supports TRUE HD audio is the asus xonar 7.1 which costs $230.

PS : 75W per channel it a lot bro !!!!
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Only when the amp/speaker is rated at (min) 75W RMS per channel, will you get good sound.

I have seen the All-in-One HT boxes from Sony/Samsung, etc. They are quite dull.
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Old 01-22-09, 01:01 PM   #5
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dude thats like 500 RMS = 10000 PMPO system, phew, but, that has nothing to do with the quality right ?? I mean its just a rated value, quality is.........
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dude thats like 500 RMS = 10000 PMPO system, phew, but, that has nothing to do with the quality right ?? I mean its just a rated value, quality is.........
Come and check my 5.1 system and then judge for yourself. Not bragging but simply stating the obvious.

My (Onkyo) amp is rated as - front left + right : 100W RMS, center/LS/RS: 65W RMS. Subwoofer is not counted. This makes 395W total.

All that power is equally useless unless there are good matching speakers to compliment it.

And PMPO is bull ****. It is like dynamic contrast ratio. There is no authentic and scientific way of measuring PMPO.
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Old 01-22-09, 01:16 PM   #7
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suggest some good speakers that give u good audio with minimal cost. Also, do u get a 'hiss' when at high volume in quiet moments of a movie ?? Any way to remove it ??(sry off topic)
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Every BD movie will be encoded with the following sound tracks:

- Dolby Digital (traditional 5.1 surround sound)
- Dolby Digital EX (7.1 surround sound with compression)
- Dolby TruHD (7.1 surround sound without any loss)
- Optionally you may get equivalent DTS tracks also

You can get extremely good surround sound with 5.1 also. The 7.1 surround, as you know has added two extra surround channels on the side walls. 7.1 will sound even better thats all. But the difference will be 25% at most.
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i was just asking!! cos i dont even have a 5.1 !!
making do with just a 2.1 for now...
What exactly do you mean by 2.1?
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Old 01-22-09, 07:52 PM   #10
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What exactly do you mean by 2.1?
2 speakers and a sub woofer .... 2.1

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Okay, then Please enquire about price of LG GGWH20L burner.

you will get your answer
I was nt able to find this particular product in 2 of the shops i checked .

i think ......

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Okay, then Please enquire about price of LG GGWH20L burner.

you will get your answer
Hi ... what price are u quoting ?? The US retail price in dollars converted to rupees ?

Be aware that most new techs are not manufactured in India and have to be imported ...so there is an import duty at play here .... it will cost rs6k in the US but it ll cost more in India .....

Take for example the ATI HD4850 card ... the difference in price is almost rs 3000 for a card that costs around rs10,000 ! ... Price varies according to models

But if its from a shop in india ... please post the name of the shop ! and site address if it has one ....

its def good news if its that cheap

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Old 01-22-09, 07:58 PM   #11
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^dude read my post(post no: 60)
It costs $250 in the US so its a lot more here. I guess he was confused.
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I was nt able to find this particular product in 2 of the shops i checked .

i think ......



Hi ... what price are u quoting ?? The US retail price in dollars converted to rupees ?

Be aware that most new techs are not manufactured in India and have to be imported ...so there is an import duty at play here .... it will cost rs6k in the US but it ll cost more in India .....

Take for example the ATI HD4850 card ... the difference in price is almost rs 3000 for a card that costs around rs10,000 ! ... Price varies according to models

But if its from a shop in india ... please post the name of the shop ! and site address if it has one ....

its def good news if its that cheap
I have seen this some other forum. and people have actually got this around 6k
Possible Hot Deal - LG GGWH20L - Page 6 - Storage Solutions - TechEnclave

so, i am not confused
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2 speakers and a sub woofer .... 2.1
Oh! I guessed that as much. What I meant was "WTF is 2.1?" (it is not HT at all).

OK. A quiz but no prizes for guessing:

A HT systems consists of following main channels:

a) Front: Left + Right
b) Center
c) Side Surround: Left + Right
d) Rear Surround: Left + Right
e) Sub woofer

Which is the most important channel? And why? If you know the answer, you will understand my question:
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What exactly do you mean by 2.1?
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Oh! I guessed that as much. What I meant was "WTF is 2.1?" (it is not HT at all).

OK. A quiz but no prizes for guessing:

A HT systems consists of following main channels:

a) Front: Left + Right
b) Center
c) Side Surround: Left + Right
d) Rear Surround: Left + Right
e) Sub woofer

Which is the most important channel? And why? If you know the answer, you will understand my question:
I'd go for Center for movies and Fronts for music

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Oh! I guessed that as much. What I meant was "WTF is 2.1?" (it is not HT at all).

OK. A quiz but no prizes for guessing:

A HT systems consists of following main channels:

a) Front: Left + Right
b) Center
c) Side Surround: Left + Right
d) Rear Surround: Left + Right
e) Sub woofer

Which is the most important channel? And why? If you know the answer, you will understand my question:
IMO all are equally IMP.
Mess any1 and it will rune the balance.

The other day i had chked out some bose 2.1 speakers with virtual surround and i must say, They were better than any 5.1 i had ever seen !!!!I DUNNO HOW THEY DID IT, BUT IT SOUNDED LIKE 5.1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!(I COULD GET EFFECTS AT THE BAK OF MY HEAD)

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IMO all are equally IMP.
Mess any1 and it will rune the balance.

The other day i had chked out some bose 2.1 speakers with virtual surround and i must say, They were better than any 5.1 i had ever seen !!!!I DUNNO HOW THEY DID IT, BUT IT SOUNDED LIKE 5.1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!(I COULD GET EFFECTS AT THE BAK OF MY HEAD)
Not entirely correct on the quiz answer. In an HT, the center channel is most important. 90% of the time, this is the active channel.

Bose has developed a proprietory technology that creates virtual surround (or simulated surround). This technology can convert any audio source (even mono) into surround sound.
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hey do u think its worth buying that ?? Its 14k. My budget for a 5.1 was abt 12k.Would u suggest i go 4 that (bose)?
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creative and philips both have 5.1 home theatre system for around 8k only.i have seen them at stores and they sound perfect.
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lol that was my opinion too b4 i heard the BOSE system. Yes they cost a lot more, but the sound is truly amazing.
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saw the blu ray working yesterday... it was truely awesome!!
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