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rajan1311

Hi guys,
this sat i will be goin to the HP office and will be meeting the marketing head there to discuss abt their range of products. I have made a list of possible PC configs that i would put forward over there. They range frm Rs20k to 90K.
Here i have seen many ppl asking for PCs in the range of 30-40K, so i would like to ask you all for ur suggestions for that range.

Plz suggest ur configs along with the following details:
1)Approx cost(no need linking)
2)The things u look 4 in a HP PC of that range(30-40k).
3)Would u like a remote 4 ur PC ??
4)Would u like ur moniter/keyboard/mouse to be an optional part.
5)Would u like to buy HTPCs with bluray drives for under 25k ??
6)If there is an option of totally customizing ur PC, ie, selecting ur processor, motherboard, RAM, HDD,Video card,etc, would u got for HP over assembled PC??

I had been in constant touch with HP regarding their products, i contantly gave them suggestions. So last night they had called me and asked me if i could meet them. So i wanted to ask all of u for ur suggestions, as they could make a difference.
Thanks.
-R (i know thats cliched )

meetdilip

Please opt for the latest processor with maximum speed. As new softwares always expect us to have the latest configuration.

2. Latest processor with maximum speed, optical mouse/keyboard, TV tuner
card

3. Yes, if available and cost effective.

6. I prefer an assembled PC from a trustworthy source. It can be cost effective as we need not pay for their ads and brand name.

We can choose the configuration we find suitable irrespective of what they can offer.

saurav_k

I always prefer assembled PCs. I assemble my PCs myself. It gives Complete satidfaction and any configuration you want according to your budget. Also, it cuts the associated cost of bundled software specially OS.

Coming to your query:

2)The things u look 4 in a HP PC of that range(30-40k).

All the essential Hardware + Good graphics card + High speed processor + High speed RAM + Good After sales service and warranty period - Cost of Bundled Software.

3) Would u like a remote 4 ur PC ??

No

5)Would u like to buy HTPCs with bluray drives for under 25k ??

Does that sound practical!!

6) If there is an option of totally customizing ur PC, ie, selecting ur processor, motherboard, RAM, HDD,Video card,etc, would u got for HP over assembled PC??

No. It will cost more than an assembled PC.

rajan1311

That is very practical. It can also be done under 20k.

Not every1 can do it like u. Imagine some1 gets a 30k graphics card, think of his condition when he gives it to a person who he does not totally trust. Its hard to find good ppl. But in this case, u are assured that it is in the right hands.
Yes, i personally will still go for assembled PCs and save those 4-5k, but for those who cant do it on their own, it seems a lot better option.
It would only be fair to compare this kind of an HP PC against a Dell desktop and not against a assembled PC assembled by you.

Just think, the top gaming laptop we can get for under 70-80k in india is a XPS16. But, its got a ATI3650 or somethin. If i could change that, it would be gr8. So, in this way, u can totally customise it. Get wat u want and just lay bak and enjoy.

PS: Dude r u saying we should use pirated software(OS) ??

saurav_k

I just answered your question. - " If there is an option of totally customizing ur PC, ie, selecting ur processor, motherboard, RAM, HDD,Video card,etc, would u got for HP over assembled PC??"

This kind of HP PC, is obviously more comparable to Dell/Lenovo desktops rather than Self assembled PCs.

Did i say that? What I meant is:

Those who like to change their PCs quite often(to keep updated with the latest technology), like you do probably - do they need to buy an OS every time they buy a PC?

Suppose you buy a Assembled PC and an Original Windows Vista and after some time you plan to buy a new HP/Dell/Lenovo PC, will you get them without the bundled software? In most cases NO. i.e, you have to pay for the OS even if you have an original one.

What if one prefers Linux over windows? Will he be able to buy a Dell XPS/Studio without the bundled Windows Vista? NO!

What if one needs to buy two dell studio laptops? Will dell sell him one of the laptops without OS and the cost associated with it!!

rajan1311

ahhh i get ur point. thx

Nice point btw.
So would it better if the OS was an option rather than a compulsion ??? I will suggest that for sure. Will put it forward. ty buddy

So, if some1 HAD TO buy a branded PC, would a PC with total customization have a definite edge over a dell/lenovo etc ??

puchu

I have given just a comparison view of price, the important thing is configuration.

1.Approximate cost 25k

• Processor-at least Core 2 duo / AMD 64 X2- 2.0 GHz or more
• Minimum 2 GB RAM(with upgrade offers)
• Motherboard with
  • · 4GB upgradability
  • ·4 SATA slots
  • ·3 PCI slots
  • ·USB ports- 4 nos (back panel )+ 2(or more) front panel )- essential
  • ·6 or 8 channel audio(does not matter)
  • ·LAN
  • ·PS/2 port –optional
• 250GB HDD
• DUAL layer DVD RW
• TFT-19”
• KB-mouse –essential
• 500VA ups
• Driver CD for Xp/Vista- essential
• speakers

2.Approximate cost 35k

• Processor-at least Core 2 duo / AMD 64 X2- 2.6 GHz or more
• Minimum 3 GB RAM(with upgrade offers)
• Motherboard with
  • · 4GB upgradability
  • ·6 SATA slots
  • ·3 PCI slots
  • ·USB ports- 4 nos (back panel )+ 2(or more) front panel )- essential
  • ·6 or 8 channel audio(does not matter)
  • ·LAN
  • ·PS/2 port –optional
• 250 GB HDD
• DUAL layer DVD RW
• TFT-19”
• KB-mouse –essential
• 500VA ups
• Driver CD for Xp/Vista- essential

3.Approximate cost 45k

• Processor-at least Core 2 duo / AMD 64 X2- 2.6 GHz or more
• Minimum 3 GB RAM(with upgrade offers)
• Motherboard with
  • · 8GB upgradability
  • ·6 SATA slots + esata
  • ·3(or more) PCI slots
  • ·USB ports- 4 nos (back panel )+ 2(or more) front panel )- essential
  • ·8 channel audio
  • ·LAN
  • ·Onboard integrated wifi
  • ·PS/2 port –optional
• d.250 GB HDD
• DUAL layer DVD RW
• TFT-19”
• KB-mouse –essential
• 650VA ups
• Driver CD for Xp/Vista- essential
• Average speakers

4.Approximate cost 55k

• Processor-at least Quad core / AMD phenom equivalent
• Minimum 3 GB DDR2 RAM(with upgrade offers)
• Motherboard with
  • · 8GB upgradability
  • ·6 SATA slots + esata
  • ·3(or more) PCI slots
  • ·USB ports- 4 nos (back panel )+ 2(or more) front panel )- essential
  • ·8 channel audio
  • ·LAN
  • ·Onboard integrated wifi
  • ·PS/2 port –optional
• 320 GB HDD
• DUAL layer DVD RW
• f.TFT-19”
• KB-mouse –essential
• 650VA ups
• Graphics card-minimal
• Driver CD for Xp/Vista- essential
• Good set of speakers

5.Approximate cost 55k

• Processor-at least Quad core / AMD phenom equivalent
• Minimum 3 GB DDR3 RAM(with upgrade offers)
• Motherboard with
  • · 8GB upgradability
  • ·6 SATA slots + esata
  • ·3(or more) PCI slots
  • ·USB ports- 4 nos (back panel )+ 2(or more) front panel )- essential
  • ·8 channel audio
  • ·LAN
  • ·Onboard integrated wifi
  • ·PS/2 port –optional
• 250 GB HDD
• DUAL layer DVD RW
• TFT-19”
• KB-mouse –essential
• 650VA ups
• Graphics card-at least 512 MB Dedicated
  
• Driver CD for Xp/Vista- essential
• Good set of speakers

6.Approximate cost 55k

• Processor-at least Quad core / AMD phenom equivalent
• Minimum 2 GB DDR3 RAM(with upgrade offers)
• c.Motherboard with
  • · 8GB upgradability
  • ·6 SATA slots + esata
  • ·3(or more) PCI slots
  • ·USB ports- 4 nos (back panel )+ 2(or more) front panel )- essential
  • ·8 channel audio
  • ·LAN
  • ·Onboard integrated wifi
  • ·PS/2 port –optional
• 250 GB HDD
• DUAL layer DVD RW
• TFT-19”
• KB-mouse –essential
• 500VA ups
• Graphics card-minimal
• TV tuner
• Driver CD for Xp/Vista- essential
• Media center OS-preloaded
• Good set of speakers

All the above should come with at least 2 years of warranty.I know that HP will not provide customizable PCs with competition to the price we get from open market.

Processor and MB come with 3 years warranty
RAM -1-3-5 years warranty
HDD 5 yrs
graphics cards 3 yrs
and so on.

It would be really good if they provide such warranty for custom PCs with the transparency of the individual product brand, like HDD form HITACHI/DVD drive SONY etc.

ShAdOwCoN

Ans : Nope ...... Most ppl who go for HTPC's are enthusiasts , they would be able to shell out a lot more money for a better configuration


Ans : Definitely .... i know to assemble it myself , but i would also def recommend it to friends who cant

No

-> Atleast a c2D 2.5Ghz or its AMD equivalent
-> Atleast an ATI 4670 512 mb or Nvidia 9600GT
-> 250GB hard drive
-> atleast 2GB ddr2 ram
-> atleast a 17" LCD
-> Atleast a 5.1 sound card
-> Dual layered dvd writer
-> option of Windows vista or Linux Ubuntu
customizability option would be gr8

rajan1311

wow lots of info up there. Thx guys. I have made note of ur suggestions.

Also, i dont know if it possible, but wat if there was a slot for a PC to compete with the XPS (in india). How would u like the following:

AMD Phenom 2 955X4 @3.6GHz (Factory OCed)
AM3 mobo 790FX(which ever brand HP buys frm)
4 GB DDR3 1600MHz
Dual ATI4770 512MB crossfired
500GB HDD
Dual layer DvD burner (can be upgraded to a bluray drive)
750W PSU
OS (Optional)
comes upto about 65-70k.

ShAdOwCoN

generally enthusiasts will not go in for a branded pc at that price range .......and others will not shell out more than 50k for a PC ....... my gut feelings tell me it wont sell

puchu

It will sell ,but not at all places.

It will sell only where new users with lots of money to spend, to show off.

meetdilip

I prefer Intel over AMD. I have AMD and is facing problems with certain software.

ShAdOwCoN

i did not mean literally

generally after a product has been listed , the seller expects it to sell atleast a minimum number of units ...... In this case that most probably wont happen .....

puchu

Aare that was a joke, take it lightly.

rajan1311

But then the XPS series is a total waste right ???
But it does sell. Also, Dell will have full dominance of that segement of the market right ??

ShAdOwCoN

I do not know about Hp's Desktop configs

But like you lots a guys consult me before choosing their config and i have not found anybody who wanted a branded PC at that range ...... the ppl who bought from that range almost always went for assembled .

my assumptions were based on this observation .... anyways u can ask those Hp guys ..... if there is market for such a product then its a good config