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dhatul · 05-27-09, 10:00 PM

Can anyone suggest a reliable and reasonable PC assembler in South Mumbai?

harishsyndrome · 06-01-09, 07:40 PM

CPU:

For Gaming got for Intel Dual Core (Inside)
Bit Costly but you wont regret

For applications go for AMD Athlon(not Phenom atleast for time being)

Avoid processors with more than 2 cores. Becoz no application / game fully utilizes two full cores.

So dont waste money in Quad Core unless you are running a Monitoring Server.

GPU:

nVidia 8800GT is the most invincible GPU supports most games.
Avoid Zebronics make, Poor perfomance recorded.

RAM:
Dont buy 800mHz costly and useless, 667 mHz would suffice.

HDD:
Buy 1TB SATA HDD

MOBO:
Get a good quality motherboard. Not fr you processor , not for your RAM but for your HDD. YOur motherboard must support a huge Space.

06-01-09, 08:01 PM

very poor advice and totally offtopic .... he is not asking for a config suggestion

harishsyndrome · 06-01-09, 08:43 PM

Yaeh sorry

Dnt see the question properly.

BTW what do you mean by poor advice.

mickey · 06-01-09, 08:47 PM

shadowcon

pls dont be so rude...
his advce was so nice but if some guy not making it properly you cannot say like that...

even if his advice was not the actual answer , the quesioner can see the specifications of the assembled pcs and how are they being made and for what purpose...

its totally baseless to reply like that..

harishsyndrome · 06-01-09, 08:52 PM

mail2sc

Yaeh thanks

But lets stop with this.

No issues.

Cheers!!

TC

Wait for some good replies

06-01-09, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harishsyndrome

Yaeh sorry

Dnt see the question properly.

BTW what do you mean by poor advice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by harishsyndrome

CPU:

For Gaming got for Intel Dual Core (Inside)
Bit Costly but you wont regret

For applications go for AMD Athlon(not Phenom atleast for time being)

Avoid processors with more than 2 cores. Becoz no application / game fully utilizes two full cores.

So dont waste money in Quad Core unless you are running a Monitoring Server.

GPU:

nVidia 8800GT is the most invincible GPU supports most games.
Avoid Zebronics make, Poor perfomance recorded.

RAM:
Dont buy 800mHz costly and useless, 667 mHz would suffice.

HDD:
Buy 1TB SATA HDD

MOBO:
Get a good quality motherboard. Not fr you processor , not for your RAM but for your HDD. YOur motherboard must support a huge Space.

1. Dual core is old Technology .... and has been phased out ....... Core2Duo is the thing you have to buy
2. Current games are optimised for Quad cores
3. There are currently 2 AMD graphic Cards that are cheaper than 8800GT and and perform better
4. 1TB is absolutely not required unless you are hosting India Broadband forum

that post was made in a hurry that is why it sounds rude
i was trying to get my point across very quickly

mickey · 06-01-09, 08:59 PM

so quickly shadowcon??

harishsyndrome · 06-01-09, 09:03 PM

1. Dual core is old Technology .... and has been phased out ....... Core2Duo is the thing you have to buy

Man, Am not talking about prcoessor Say Intel Dual Core which have 2 logical procesors with BUS Speed of 433 mHz

There are brand new processors with label Intel Dual Core Inside with two physical cores present with Bus Speed of 800 mHz

2. Current games are optimised for Quad cores

Huh!! Is it. Games dont worry about Cores , They want only clock Speed. Thats why AMD Still cant make a better System for Gaming.

3. There are currently 2 AMD graphic Cards that are cheaper than 8800GT and and perform better

Sorry i dont know.

4. 1TB is absolutely not required unless you are hosting India Broadband forum

Now the Cost of HDD Crashed like a Hell.
Size of Nero 9 full is 3.06 gB
Windows Vista 8 GB Initial.

Can u afford an 160 gB for 2300
or a 500 gB for 3000.

06-01-09, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harishsyndrome

1. Dual core is old Technology .... and has been phased out ....... Core2Duo is the thing you have to buy

Man, Am not talking about prcoessor Say Intel Dual Core which have 2 logical procesors with BUS Speed of 433 mHz

There are brand new processors with label Intel Dual Core Inside with two physical cores present with Bus Speed of 800 mHz

2. Current games are optimised for Quad cores

Huh!! Is it. Games dont worry about Cores , They want only clock Speed. Thats why AMD Still cant make a better System for Gaming.

3. There are currently 2 AMD graphic Cards that are cheaper than 8800GT and and perform better

Sorry i dont know.

4. 1TB is absolutely not required unless you are hosting India Broadband forum

Now the Cost of HDD Crashed like a Hell.
Size of Nero 9 full is 3.06 gB
Windows Vista 8 GB Initial.

Can u afford an 160 gB for 2300
or a 500 gB for 3000.

did u go into hibernation in the year 2006 and just woke up now???

whitestar_999 · 06-01-09, 09:29 PM

quad cores leave dual cores far behind when it comes to compressing/decompressing files using softwares like winrar.same is the case with video encoding softwares like latest divx7 or x264 encoding.as for games it is true that not many games support quad cores now but they will in near future & anyway any quad core is more than enough to play any game combined with a good graphics card so why get a 2 core(older technology)when difference is not much.1TB hard disk is of not much use to a person who will take 6 months or maybe even a year to fill that space up because in that time you will be getting a 2TB hard disc for the same price or maybe even less.

06-01-09, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harishsyndrome

CPU:

For Gaming got for Intel Dual Core (Inside)
Bit Costly but you wont regret

For applications go for AMD Athlon(not Phenom atleast for time being)

Being an AMD fanboi, that really hurt me.

T.T

What does it have to do to impress u ???
Now, for 8800GT being the best in the market.
Say hello to ATI4770 and ATI4850. Both Pawn the 8800GT in every game.The ATI4770 even costs lesser(6.5k).

PS: sry for total off topic.

06-01-09, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harishsyndrome

Man, Am not talking about prcoessor Say Intel Dual Core which have 2 logical procesors with BUS Speed of 433 mHz

In terms of features, price and performance at a given clock frequency, Pentium Dual-Core processors are positioned above Celeron but below Core and Core 2 microprocessors in Intel's product range
-wikipedia

c2d and Dual core are based on the same micro-architecture .... the difference between the architecture is not very big .... but c2d has better FSB speeds
check their specs again

Quote:

There are brand new processors with label Intel Dual Core Inside with two physical cores present with Bus Speed of 800 mHz

as far as i know they were phased out in 2008 due to poor sales

Quote:

Huh!! Is it. Games dont worry about Cores , They want only clock Speed. Thats why AMD Still cant make a better System for Gaming.

Myth # 1
AMD processor are better for gamings (Edit : wrong point of mine)

Reality
absolutely baseless claim

Myth #2
clock speeds= gaming

Reality
Todays games rely on parallel processing not on clock speeds .... game devolopers respond to development in the hardware fields

Quote:

Now the Cost of HDD Crashed like a Hell.
Size of Nero 9 full is 3.06 gB
Windows Vista 8 GB Initial.

Can u afford an 160 gB for 2300
or a 500 gB for 3000.

so would you buy the highest possible spaced hard disk ? and end up not using more than half the space ? thats waste of money too

You have the option of not installing many of the tools in nero 9 .... it ll bring down the size drastically

quad optimised games

UT3
supreme commander
company of heroes
etc etc
and there are a lot more coming

06-01-09, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harishsyndrome

[I]

Huh!! Is it. Games dont worry about Cores , They want only clock Speed. Thats why AMD Still cant make a better System for Gaming.

And they totally loooove cache and a good architecture

The processors u r say is fine for gaming. Infact i have the one ur talkin about.Its an E5200 , Oced to 3.2GHz, has 2MB cache. It costs 3.7k or so. So, advice not bad, but dumping AMD for the reasons u gave, is sad.

Btw, clock speed of similar priced phenoms is a lot higher than any intel core 2.So i dunno how that statement made sense.

But, dont take me wrong, we just helpin each other and trying to make things clear here.

harishsyndrome · 06-01-09, 11:47 PM

Am also a fan of AMD but just becoz i like AMD i cant praise AMD.

Many games are optimized for Multi Cores

Let it be but ultimate need of Gaming is Clock Speed.

The things that i posted regarding the technology is nt my own.

It read it from a website.

Thats the reason Quadra Core processor are twisted to Tri- Core Processors.

Still Intel Core 2 Duo is FAR heavier than AMD Phenom.

Because AMD Cannot raise the Clock Speed

Quote:

Originally Posted by rajan1311

And they totally loooove cache and a good architecture

The processors u r say is fine for gaming. Infact i have the one ur talkin about.Its an E5200 , Oced to 3.2GHz, has 2MB cache. It costs 3.7k or so. So, advice not bad, but dumping AMD for the reasons u gave, is sad.

Btw, clock speed of similar priced phenoms is a lot higher than any intel core 2.So i dunno how that statement made sense.

But, dont take me wrong, we just helpin each other and trying to make things clear here.

I planed to buy Phenom tri-Core processor.

Just before buying it i googled for some comparison between intel and AMD. There i read about the technologies 45mm and 60mm.

The Website (not a blog) reviewed both processors and gave a verdict as AMD needs to adapt something new to stand in the market.

Once AMD lead the way with Cheaper price and fast performance with Intergrated memory controller whereas Inter.

Still AMD Sempron 1600mHz (equal to Intel CELERON 2Ghz) gives a bus speed of 200-mHz but whats the use its just a 1.6 gHz processor.

Am dont mistake any one.
Healthy argument improve knowledge

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN

In terms of features, price and performance at a given clock frequency, Pentium Dual-Core processors are positioned above Celeron but below Core and Core 2 microprocessors in Intel's product range
-wikipedia

I think you are talking about Intel Pentium D which is a Single processor which has two logical cores.

There three processor
Intel Pentium D - 533 mHz - 2.4 Ghz (My friend bought this 4 Years before
Core2Duo - 800 mHz - 1.8 Ghz (My friend bought this 3 Years before)
Dual Core - 800 mHz - 2GHz ( My friend bought this one year before)

c2d and Dual core are based on the same micro-architecture .... the difference between the architecture is not very big .... but c2d has better FSB speeds
check their specs again

I now googled much but am not able to find the Site where i read already.
Sure i post it if it get it.

as far as i know they were phased out in 2008 due to poor sales

Myth # 1
AMD processor are better for gamings (Edit : wrong point of mine)

Reality
absolutely baseless claim

Myth #2
clock speeds= gaming

Reality
Todays games rely on parallel processing not on clock speeds .... game devolopers respond to development in the hardware fields

Dunno serious. I even made intensive googling before when i planned to buy a CPU. All reviews blamed that AMD lacks in Clock Speed..

so would you buy the highest possible spaced hard disk ? and end up not using more than half the space ? thats waste of money too

OK I accept. It depends upon users.

Once i was using 40 GB and then 160 gB and Now 500 GB. Am BSNL User.
Now looking for 1 TB.

You have the option of not installing many of the tools in nero 9 .... it ll bring down the size drastically

quad optimised games

UT3
supreme commander
company of heroes
etc etc
and there are a lot more coming

even many more games are there

just4kix · 06-01-09, 11:50 PM

Hey, everyone, please stop digressing. Let us be back to topic.

p/s. This is exactly what is meant by "thread hijacking".

06-02-09, 12:04 AM

I have already discussed this processor issue with rajan1311 ..... you can ask him .... i am very clear about what processor family/microarchitecture and all that stuff is...PD was phased out in 2007 not in 2008

OK enough ....

QUESTION IS

Quote:

Can anyone suggest a reliable and reasonable PC assembler in South Mumbai?

harishsyndrome · 06-02-09, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN

I have already discussed this processor issue with rajan1311 ..... you can ask him .... i am very clear about what processor family/microarchitecture and all that stuff is...PD was phased out in 2007 not in 2008

OK enough ....

QUESTION IS

Yeah i not a brainy guy in deed

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06-01-09, 07:40 PM	#2
harishsyndrome Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Age: 22 Posts: 79 Rep Power: 1	CPU: For Gaming got for Intel Dual Core (Inside) Bit Costly but you wont regret For applications go for AMD Athlon(not Phenom atleast for time being) Avoid processors with more than 2 cores. Becoz no application / game fully utilizes two full cores. So dont waste money in Quad Core unless you are running a Monitoring Server. GPU: nVidia 8800GT is the most invincible GPU supports most games. Avoid Zebronics make, Poor perfomance recorded. RAM: Dont buy 800mHz costly and useless, 667 mHz would suffice. HDD: Buy 1TB SATA HDD MOBO: Get a good quality motherboard. Not fr you processor , not for your RAM but for your HDD. YOur motherboard must support a huge Space.

06-01-09, 08:01 PM	#3
ShAdOwCoN Guest Posts: n/a	very poor advice and totally offtopic .... he is not asking for a config suggestion

06-01-09, 08:43 PM	#4
harishsyndrome Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Age: 22 Posts: 79 Rep Power: 1	Yaeh sorry Dnt see the question properly. BTW what do you mean by poor advice.

06-01-09, 08:47 PM	#5
mickey Senior Member & Mod Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Delhi Posts: 3,303 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 8	shadowcon pls dont be so rude... his advce was so nice but if some guy not making it properly you cannot say like that... even if his advice was not the actual answer , the quesioner can see the specifications of the assembled pcs and how are they being made and for what purpose... its totally baseless to reply like that..

06-01-09, 08:52 PM	#6
harishsyndrome Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Age: 22 Posts: 79 Rep Power: 1	mail2sc Yaeh thanks But lets stop with this. No issues. Cheers!! TC Wait for some good replies

06-01-09, 08:59 PM	#8
mickey Senior Member & Mod Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Delhi Posts: 3,303 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 8	so quickly shadowcon??

06-01-09, 09:03 PM	#9
harishsyndrome Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Age: 22 Posts: 79 Rep Power: 1	1. Dual core is old Technology .... and has been phased out ....... Core2Duo is the thing you have to buy Man, Am not talking about prcoessor Say Intel Dual Core which have 2 logical procesors with BUS Speed of 433 mHz There are brand new processors with label Intel Dual Core Inside with two physical cores present with Bus Speed of 800 mHz 2. Current games are optimised for Quad cores Huh!! Is it. Games dont worry about Cores , They want only clock Speed. Thats why AMD Still cant make a better System for Gaming. 3. There are currently 2 AMD graphic Cards that are cheaper than 8800GT and and perform better Sorry i dont know. 4. 1TB is absolutely not required unless you are hosting India Broadband forum Now the Cost of HDD Crashed like a Hell. Size of Nero 9 full is 3.06 gB Windows Vista 8 GB Initial. Can u afford an 160 gB for 2300 or a 500 gB for 3000.

06-01-09, 09:29 PM	#11
whitestar_999 Platinum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UP(west) Posts: 1,971 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 3	quad cores leave dual cores far behind when it comes to compressing/decompressing files using softwares like winrar.same is the case with video encoding softwares like latest divx7 or x264 encoding.as for games it is true that not many games support quad cores now but they will in near future & anyway any quad core is more than enough to play any game combined with a good graphics card so why get a 2 core(older technology)when difference is not much.1TB hard disk is of not much use to a person who will take 6 months or maybe even a year to fill that space up because in that time you will be getting a 2TB hard disc for the same price or maybe even less.

06-01-09, 11:50 PM	#16
just4kix Platinum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 8,899 Blog Entries: 6 Rep Power: 19	Hey, everyone, please stop digressing. Let us be back to topic. p/s. This is exactly what is meant by "thread hijacking".

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