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dhatul

I am looking for assembling a desktop computer, which will not become obsolete at least in the next one to two years and within a budget of say around 50-55K. My main focus will be on maintaining my own photo blog/website for my photographs and main application will be photoprocessing. No gaming. I am looking for a Core 2 Quad with adequate DDR2 or DDR3 memory and high capacity hard disk. It should also preferably have features for using it as an entertainment machine. Can you suggest a suitable all in one configurations with details of make/model and expected cost of each component?

Thanks in advance.

rajan1311

Processor:
AMD Phenom 2 X3 720(2.8GHz,1MB L2 cache6MB L3 cache)-Rs 8000 can be Overclocked to 3.4GHz(with ease)
Motherboard:
AMD 780G series motherboard-Rs 3500
Memory:
4GB(2x2048MB) DDR2 800MHz –Rs 2500
OS:
Vista Home Premium 64-Bit-Rs 7000
or any other OS
Graphics card:
Nvidia 9600GT 512MB- Rs 5000
Hard Drive:
500GB SATA- rs 3000
Display:
19” or 20” LCD screen –Rs 7000
Optical drive:
Dual layer dvd burner –Rs 1000
add a case and a 450W PSU. will come upto 45k or so.

dhatul

How abount an Intel configuration?

rajan1311

y so particular abt Intel ???

I personally do not recommend Intel cos at this range, u will not get the best IMO. But anyways, i will give u one. Let me do some more research.

imrock

GO for intel Core 2 duo..........

rajan1311

tell more. Plz giv full config. Makes no sense when u say go for c2d.

whitestar_999

@rajan1311,it's not a bad thing to be an AMD fan but be honest in providing your replies.with a budget of 50-55k one can easily afford a core i7(nehelem)processor which will leave any AMD processor currently available far behind(you can check if you want to).you should have mentioned that in your post along with the statement that it will cost a few thousand more & you would recommend AMD for saving the money for some other PC part like monitor & then it will be an ideal reply.

dhatul

My request to all of you is to kindly keep to the main topic that is my question/request which began this thread. Kindly do not digress. Each one of you can express your love or hate for Intel/AMD by starting a new thread on that topic, if there is not one already.

rajan1311

aaa
I dunno what so say man.
Lets see. 55k. Corei7 920 = 15k
Decent X58 mobo = 18-20k
DDR3 memory 3GB 1333MHz= 5k
Some decent GPU = 6-7K
OS:7k
Decent case:5k
PSU:6k (u need a good 1 for power hungry corei7)
500GB HDD =3k
Plz add up
i calculated 66k+.
now u still need a monitor and some other stuff.Add tax too. Idk how u can say it easily fits that budget. Also, not the mention the HUGE compatibility mess with some types of memory not compatible with motherboards. thats y i stay away frm core i7.
Also, i may seem, but i m not biased towards any side(AMD or Intel). AMD's products just rock !

sry, plz go for the ATI4770 512MB cards. its 7k. But its a lot faster. Its as fast a 4850. I have left a 5-10k budget so that u can pick ur case and PSU(which should cost about 8-9k). So totally it will be around 45k(inc case/PSU, exc Tax).

dhatul

Without going into Intel vs AMD issue, won't a Core 2 Quad machine cheaper and also more nearer in comparison to the AMD config suggested by you earlier.

Can anyone suggest C2Q configuration within my budget?

whitestar_999

core2quad q6600 or core2duo 3GHz---~10000
MSI P35 mobo-~5000
4GB corsair RAM----~3000
nvidia GTX 260-------~14000(i think but for this price whatever you get is good if not this model)
1TB 7200.12(not 7200.11)seagate hard disc--~5500
corsair 520 PSU----~6000(or maybe you can get corsair 620 for this price)
LG DVD writer------~1000
Cooler Master CM690 cabinet--~4000
benQ 20/22"-------~10000
total is 58k but i think you can fit it under 55k with a bit of bargaining.i am leaving the choice of OS upto you.you can get an OEM version of VISTA ULTIMATE for ~5000.

rajan1311

hey buddy, the Q6600 is totally outdated and its production has stopped.
A core 2 Quad at 3.0Ghz will cast a bomb. Its called a C2Q 9650. It costs 18k unlike 10k. Here is a link:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 Processor - BX80569Q9650 by: Intel -
PS: windows vista ultimate in bangalore costs 10k (the OEM version)

But yes, in the above config, if u get a Q8400 (2.66GHz,4MB cache), and a G45 system instead a P35, it would be better.

So this is the Intel system i would recommend for under 50k:
Intel Q9400 :13000
Intel P41 mobo: 4500
Biostar P43-A7 Motherboard - P43-A7 by: Asus - TechShop.in - Buy Tech
4GB corsair DDR2 800MHz :3000
ATI 4870 1GB (its faster that the GTX260, if u can get a GTX260 216 core for 14k, go for that instead of ATI 4870) :14500
Powercolor AX4870 1GBD5 HD4870 1GB GDDR5 Graphics Card - AX4870 1GBD5
500GB Seagate HDD : 3000
Corsair 650W PSU:7500 (u need this bcos u need 2 PCIe power connectors for ur card)
Corsair CMPSU-650TX Power Supply - CMPSU-650TX by: Corsair -
LG DVD writer :1000
Cooler Master CM690 cabinet :4000
benQ/Samsung 20/22":10000

Idk y u hate AMD. I think people around u dont know whats AMD, so u will not have any bragging rights !!

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Now, for a Much faster AMD PC for same price:
AMD Phenom 940X4 (3.0GHz, 2MB L2 cache, 6MB L3 cache):11.5k
AMD 790GX Mobo: 6k
Biostar TA790GX 128M Motherboard - TA790GX 128M by: Biostar -
4GB Corsair DDR2 800Mhz RAM
Dual ATI 4770 512MB in crossfire :14k
Corsair CMPSU-650TX Power Supply
LG DVD writer :1000
Cooler master CM690:4000
500GB HDD :3k
samsung 22" 11k

This system is in a totally different league. It Pawns everything. But, its not for u.
this system is for High end gaming. U do not want gaming(as said in 1st post), thats y u do not need a high end Quad core, or dual graphics, or even a ATI4870/GTX260.
So, save ur cash as u dont need so much power. U just need good amount of RAM, 4GB is fine for now, if needed u can even get 8GB later.

The Core2 Quad system will be more or less same in terms of performance, and a little more in price. The reason i suggest AMD is that it is more upgradeable.
U said, in ur first post that u dont want it to be outdated for another 2 years.
There will be no more LGA 775 processors anymore. So,ur machine can not be updated to a better processor/mobo/etc in the future. But, with the AMD system, u can use the same processor on a different mobo with DDR3,say after 2 years. hence, u will save the cash of the processor later. Also, u can put newer processors on this old mobo too.

Hence, it makes a lot more sense to buy an AMD PC, rather than a Core 2 Quad.

vedaj.jp

Hi there... i understand you dont want to compare intel n amd and just want to go with amd. But from my personal experience, amd gives good performance in the first year and it deteriorates as time goes on. i did a little bit of study on this n came to know that its something to do with the processor material. Intel uses gold but amd uses some other alloy(whose composition is their secret of keeping processor costs low). So, just keep this in mind if you do not want to upgrade your pc in the next few years

whitestar_999

i have seen both AMD & INTEL performances & i also know the architecture of their processors.right now INTEL has the lead & AMD is only recommended for saving some money.you can verify this fact on any good review site.unless AMD comes up with a new architecture there is not much hope because INTEL has already announced their next gen architectures which sound very promising.

rajan1311

whitestar, plz send me those "good" sites. I can understand that the corei7 pawns the Phenom 2, but the phenoms are performing better/as good than the core 2 quads for same price . PM me links. And yes, architecture wise, Phenom 2's are "true" quad cores, unlike core 2 quads.............
If your a fan of the core i7, plz tell me, y is it not a hit ??

Go for an Intel if u wanna waste cash....

also, can u plz tell more about the next gen intel processor (in a different thread)

Its not bcos of gold lol. The cost of a procesor is around $5-6 even for intel at best.
Trust me its not a processor issue, it could be various other issues.

whitestar_999

DIGIT magazine(the best computer magazine both officially & in my opinion)this month has an article about phenom II competing with core2quad & i7.in that test Q8200 beat phenom X49950 & though phenom II 955BE managed to beat Q8200 still it is priced at twice that of Q8200.
you seems to be a die hard AMD fan so i am not expecting any rational impartial replies from you but still i am writing this reply because i am not partial to any one---INTEL or AMD.the day AMD launched a better processor i wiulol write something similar abot AMD too but until then it's INTEL all the way.

anyone who post comments like this is not someone you can argue based on rationality.i have never written anywhere that go for AMD if you want to waste your cash.

this debate is over from my side.i only prefer to debate with those who have solid rational arguments not based on emotional bias towards a certain object.

thandakid

If you are looking for gaming I would definately go with AMD for now as Intel is changing sockets like hell and AM3 socket for AMD is future proof dont go with a LGA 775 socket as it is outdated so your PC wont be futureproof so I strongly recomend go with AMD for now

whitestar_999

interesting!

thandakid

and as for performance the architecture of core i7 s incomparable to amd phenom II
but those phenom do perform well in gaming and definately beat core 2 quads in gaming only but as far as super pi score which measures the procesing potential the core 2 quad is better but if i were to build a gaming machine which cannot have an i7 I would strongly recomend AMD and if your work is more of video editing and movie conversion related go with Core 2 quad

and as for proof here you go





Amd trumps core 2 quad in gaming but not core i7 but on processing jobs intel core 2quad is better






But with the INTEL socket fiasco GO WITH AMD (Strongly recomended)


some more proof




and these
http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-ph...review-test/17

rajan1311

Also, core i7 runs HOT and is POWER HUNGRY !!!! 130W TDP !!!

See, for gaming u need a corei7 ONLY if ur going for a multi GPU setup. Otherwise its not gonna help ur frame rates much. Go for a balanced system. Not with a corei7+8600GT