Thread: Confused in i7 and Quad Core Plzz Help

Hello Ever1

As The Title said it all ,

Now m finally planing to buy a PC afta a years wait ,

m having a really old & low-config PC which annoys me Everyday

My Requirment

i would be Specially watching Movies , Playing Games , Surfing Net , Multimedia and
a Bit of Work like using sum tools for work purpose

So 1st of all what i want is a Very Fast PC ,should not take much time to open a application or Multi tasking ,


I need a LCD
Good Headphones InfacT Very Good HP
Good GFX card
Sound Card IF required for gaming ,

all n all i need a Beast which should not let me feel outdated afta 5-6 yrs, Though Technology changes at a Gr8 Pace but still if am Spending 40-45k`s I shall have that Benifit


ohh and did i tell i can spend 40-50k`s on My pc


Now i7 or Quad-core ??


shall i wait for i7 prces to get low as i read in this forum that in 2010 intel`s coming with sandybag sumthin like that

i have no idea avout AMD processors are their ne competitor Processors in AMD with Intel ??


Help Me Fellas

would really appreciate and`d be Thankfull

a core i7 is a quad core. Its a quad core with Hyperthreading, so it has 4 cores, 8 threads.

At Rs45,000 budget, its better to got for a AMD based system. Have a look here:
gaming PC

Well, to be frank 40000-45000 is not that high a budget considering you are talking about a future proof PC. Moreover 4 to 5 years future proofing is not possible... PERIOD!
I recommend AMD over Intel any day! Graphics card - buy 9600 GTX or better, no need for sound card! Dump your money on good RAM, like Dominators!

Originally Posted by sharadkumar

Well, to be frank 40000-45000 is not that high a budget considering you are talking about a future proof PC. Moreover 4 to 5 years future proofing is not possible... PERIOD!
I recommend AMD over Intel any day! Graphics card - buy 9600 GTX or better, no need for sound card! Dump your money on good RAM, like Dominators!

Thanxx

which AMD processor do u think i shall go for ?

what about MOBO ?

Originally Posted by sharadkumar

Well, to be frank 40000-45000 is not that high a budget considering you are talking about a future proof PC. Moreover 4 to 5 years future proofing is not possible... PERIOD!
I recommend AMD over Intel any day! Graphics card - buy 9600 GTX or better, no need for sound card! Dump your money on good RAM, like Dominators!

Which Gfx do u think is Best among these ??

* Point of View (POV) Nvidia Geforce 9600GT 512MB DDR3 Price – 8,100/-
* eVGA Nvidia Geforce 9600 GT 512MB DDR3 “Super Clocked” – 8,300/-
* eVGA Nvidia 9600 GT 512MB DDR3 KO (Knock Out) – 8,300/-
* MSI Nvidia Geforce 9600GT OC Edition Price – 8,200/-
* Palit 9600GT 512MB DDR3 Price – 8,000/-
* Zotac Nvidia Geforce 9600 GT 512 MB DDR3 Price – 9500/-
* XFX NVIDIA GeForce 9600GT 512MB DDR3 – 9800/-

^^ Omg those prices are tooooo high.

You get a good 9600GT (not GTX lol) for around Rs5,000.

A friend of mine is selling a really good ATI4850 512MB card with a good cooler for Rs6.5k (still got 2.5 years of warranty). I will write the full specs, just hold on for a few day......

It would be a really bad idea to buy dominators as they are too costly (Rs7,500 for 4GB DDR2 1066MHz).

have a look:
Gaming PC- AMD

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Originally Posted by lalit.j

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Considering you want an overall high performing machine, just investing on the proc and MoBo won’t do any good. You need a good, if not, great power supply unit, a good cabinet and also a decent UPS. Afterall, you don’t want to burn your 45k just because you did not spend a couple of thousands a UPS. DDR3 is almost double that of DDR2 RAM. So, I’d say get a AM2+ MoBo of AMD preferably based on the 790FX chipset and the Phenom II X4 955/965 depending on availability. That’s set you back by 25k. Then, get 4GB of DDR2 RAM = around <3k. After all this, get a decent GPU like a 4850, 4770 or a 4870 (that’d burn a hole of 12k). Get a decent keyboard and mouse = 2k (at least). Nice set of headphones = 1k (approx). then comes PSU. I’ve been using the corsair VX450 for a year and a half now. You need to go for this or something better. Nothing less than this would do. The VX450 would set you back by about 4k. Then for cabinet, if you’re looking at a high-end cabinet, go for Cooler Master’s Stacker (13k approx) or if you’re in the budget end then go for their elite series (the 334 or the 335. They sell for for around 3.5k including the PSU, so expect around 2.5k without the PSU). UPS another 4k for 800VA if you get APC with software monitoring. All this adds up to 53.5k. So, you probably need to up your budget a little if you want to get beast as you said.

^^ you still need a HDD and a optical drive.add 4k for that.

I would go for a HAF932 over a stacker any day !

Originally Posted by lalit.j

Hello Ever1

As The Title said it all ,

Now m finally planing to buy a PC afta a years wait ,

m having a really old & low-config PC which annoys me Everyday

My Requirment

i would be Specially watching Movies , Playing Games , Surfing Net , Multimedia and
a Bit of Work like using sum tools for work purpose

So 1st of all what i want is a Very Fast PC ,should not take much time to open a application or Multi tasking ,


I need a LCD
Good Headphones InfacT Very Good HP
Good GFX card
Sound Card IF required for gaming ,

all n all i need a Beast which should not let me feel outdated afta 5-6 yrs, Though Technology changes at a Gr8 Pace but still if am Spending 40-45k`s I shall have that Benifit


ohh and did i tell i can spend 40-50k`s on My pc


Now i7 or Quad-core ??


shall i wait for i7 prces to get low as i read in this forum that in 2010 intel`s coming with sandybag sumthin like that

i have no idea avout AMD processors are their ne competitor Processors in AMD with Intel ??


Help Me Fellas

would really appreciate and`d be Thankfull

wait for some time if possible 5-6months then u can buy i7 at decent price at the moment u will end up buying proccy+mobo around 30K bcuz mobo which support i7 proccy are very costly around 13-14K +13-14K for proccy

make a target of 20 K for mobo +processor
palit 9800GT 1GB for 6800 +150 shipping i got 1 online few days bak
SMPS 600W ---4K
DVD writer ----1200
TFT moniter 21' ---- 9000 i would say 24' HD for 14K
5.1 speeker ----4.5K
500GB hard disk ---- 2700 or 1 TB for 4K
cabinet local keyboard/mouse extra

hope this help
NOTE :- spend 13-14K on processer and 6-7K on mobo

If you are buying the PC now change the graphics card to GTX 250 it will cost Rs.6900(ZOTAC) and is better bet than 9800gt and future proof too.
About the monitor for RS.13000 you should be getting 24inch Benq monitor(E2400HD) a full HD monitor which even has a HDMI port.
About the processor I would advise you to wait for some more time for the core i7 prices to drop as kartikoli said.
But if you have to buy one immediately then I would suggest you go for a cheaper motherboard+processor combo for now and change to corei7 based system when the prices drop.
As you are going to use it for gaming a cheap processor+motherboard should do as GTX 250 is a powerful card.

I dont know y everyone thinks prices of the core i7 will drop.
The prices of core i7 will not drop much.
The i7 920 will be stopped soon. X58 motherboards Will not get any cheaper.
You only option is a core i5. The core i5 750 can be found in india for around Rs11k and even lah 1156 mobos can be for for 11k. That makes it a little cheaper than an i7 machine.

i would be Specially watching Movies , Playing Games , Surfing Net , Multimedia and a Bit of Work like using sum tools for work purpose

For all of the above, you really do not require a bleeding edge CPU. But for the sake of being as much future proof as possible, it is better to go for good CPU. Intel CPUs are better for video editing/transcoding but AMD is otherwise a cheaper (and hence Value-for-money) option.

I do not have much expertise there but I can advice you on others options that you have mentioned.

a) Graphics Card: Look at my thread http://www.indiabroadband.net/comput...-analyzed.html (Some Graphics Cards analyzed). I think that medium range should be good enough for you. BTW, you have not mentioned what kind of games.

b) Monitor: Buy a 21" full HD. Price will be around Rs. 10-11 K. This will be good for watching movies.

Originally Posted by rajan1310

I dont know y everyone thinks prices of the core i7 will drop.
The prices of core i7 will not drop much.
The i7 920 will be stopped soon. X58 motherboards Will not get any cheaper.
You only option is a core i5. The core i5 750 can be found in india for around Rs11k and even lah 1156 mobos can be for for 11k. That makes it a little cheaper than an i7 machine.

Because that is what generally happens with the Intel processors.
When the new processors come they are exorbitantly priced then in next 6 months they either decrease the prices of the processors or at least release cheaper alternatives which are definitely better than their previous series of processors.
That is what happened with their Core2Duo,Core2Quad
So we expect the same to happen with the core i7's too.

Intel knows AMD will not have anything faster for at least 1 year (till nov 2010 at least).Hence, y will they decrease the price?

They want Core i7 to be a high performance, enthusiast segment product, I dont think it will be made any cheaper. But, you always go for core i5.

Price don't depends upon competition only & processors prices always every year fall due to Moore's Law indirectly as processors become good .

according to moore's law, processors will be 200 times faster in the next 10 years

anyways, moores law make no sense here.

Say after 2 years, AMD dies (looks pretty likely), Intel will dominate.
They will sell celrons for $200. who will stop them ? They wont care about any law

Also, if you remember, Q6600 is the most common Quad core out there. It was released with a price tag of $850, but due to competition, is has come down to real low levels.... I hope u got my point here

Of course competition is a factor but not the only one. To stay ahead Intel will drop its prices of old processors as new one comes.

Not only that after sometime the fabrication process becomes cheaper due to mass production.As the fabrication technology changes the prices should fall.
I dont think AMD will go so soon.It is at least getting good profits in their graphic cards
And after some time they have to release a new processor otherwise if not AMD another company might try to beat it.

Prices also come down because the same company launches new processors - in the same generation or the next one.

Originally Posted by just4kix

Prices also come down because the same company launches new processors - in the same generation or the next one.

Yes , thats what i said. It happens due to Moore's Law.

Originally Posted by speedy

Not only that after sometime the fabrication process becomes cheaper due to mass production.As the fabrication technology changes the prices should fall.
I dont think AMD will go so soon.It is at least getting good profits in their graphic cards
And after some time they have to release a new processor otherwise if not AMD another company might try to beat it.

They are in loss from even the graphics division. Have a look at their past year's records, they only made profits 1nce and that too because they had sold some manufacturing units.

If you want future proof then atleast go for ati hd 5870 i.e. a dx11 card, it may not be available now but wait 1 month or two and you will be safe for atleast 3 years in terms of gfx card.

^^ you can get it in india now. Its Rs25,000.
The 5850 is also here for Rs17,000

^^^^

A GFX Card for 25 k ...


Choas Now --->i5 or i7 ?? :?

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