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    My cousin wants to buy a computer..she's doing her engineering..Please suggest me a good configuration with some good motherboards and processors..The budget is around 30-35k..I wanted to go for assembled PC desktop..
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    Guru please update for what purpose you need this PC, is it for internet usage only or for gaming or for running any heavy applications to practice or something

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    No heavy applications running on the PC...It should be for good internet usage and fair gaming purpose..
    Sorry for not mentioning.

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    A computer should be a long term investment. However the computer depreciates alarmingly. In one year, it looses 50% of the value and in three years it is worth no more than 5-8K. So think wisely.

    If this is just required for studies, project work and surfing, no need to buy a brand new piece. Just go for second hand that may be availble for 5-8K. At the end of the studies, it can be still sold off for a 2-3K price. Or if one feels philanthropic, it could be donated to a school, poor person, etc.

    My suggestion may not be appealing but think carefully. Please do not reject it outright.

    If you wish to buy a new one then be as future proof (hardly possible) as possible:

    a) Intel Quad Core processor (the fastest available)
    b) Motherboard with the best Northbridge and Southbridge specs
    c) A min of 2 GB RAM
    d) Two separate disks - one for O/S and programs and the other for data/stuff
    e) DVD±RW D/L 32x min
    f) min 256 MB Graphics card
    g) 19" TFT monitor
    h) Other standard accessories
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    J4K the suggestion you have given about the second hand computer is very good..But the problem is i don't get a second hand PC easily in my city..And of course my cousin(the original buyer would never agree for this)..She prefers brand new ones..
    The configuration you have suggested is excellent,but does it come within the budget of 30-35k???
    What are north bridge ans South bridge Motherboards??

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    Yes. It should. At most 40K. But if new computer is absolutely the requirement, it is better to be protected against outdating as far as possible.
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    b) Motherboard with the best Northbridge and Southbridge specs?????

    Can you explain this???

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    max additional hardware in built, not exactly though!!
    it also is related to cpu performance and ram performance

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    Apc ups....
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    Hi,

    If just4kix's + APC UPS configuration goes beyond your budget, try the following,

    Processor: Intel -> AMD.
    Harddisk: 2 -> 1 (you can always buy a second hard-disk and add it with your existing configuration at any time.)
    UPS: APC -> Numeric or other branded company.

    You could see the cost difference of approximately 5K, if you do so.

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    Please list some Motherboards with this Northbridge and Southbridge Specs

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    Even Microtek UPS is good...
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    ASUS mobo's are good and get best service in India. Not that other Mobo's are bad.

    Northbridge and Southbridge are CPU bridges.

    Northbridge is the interface between CPU and RAM and Graphics. Southbridge is the interface to PCI Bus, Clock, HDD, USB and all other peripheral.

    Bus speed is much less than CPU speed. So you should buy and Mobo and CPU that supports high speed and thus throughput.
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    You can very well get J4K's specification within your budget Guru ....


    Your choice of motherboard is the most important decision ..you ll be taking about ur computer


    When you buy a motherboard ...look for

    Memory type -[Outdated] DDR [current std] DDR2 [being replaced by] DDR3

    USB-[outdated] USB [Current std] USB 2 [New Tech ] USB 3

    Slot -[outdated]PCI and AGP [Current std] PCI and PCI Express [Being Repaced by]PCI and PCI-Express 2 [Yet to release ]PCI and PCI-E 3

    Hard disk [outdated]HDD [current] SATA


    Also take into account the fact that for processors "Core clock cycles " gives u the real measure of performance compared to "Speed in Ghz".So dont just blindly go in for higher Ghz processor.

    For Ex:
    Intel E4700(model) processor has the speed of 1.8 Ghz but performs as well as its 2 Ghz counterpart (Both from Intel itself) ... but there was a significant price difference !
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    Thanks J4k and shadowcon for that useful information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gurusam View Post
    Hi
    My cousin wants to buy a computer..she's doing her engineering..Please suggest me a good configuration with some good motherboards and processors..The budget is around 30-35k..I wanted to go for assembled PC desktop..
    Thanks
    ur budget is preety goood....
    intel core 2 duo 3 or more ghz
    ram 3 gb ddr1(not ddr2).
    HHD- 360 gb
    speeker Intex 2200wats
    mouse/keyboard -TVS
    moniter - Samsung LCD 19"
    TV tuner card - pixalTV
    Sony DVD writter
    LAN card- any
    and additional hardware as u required

    and save some money to give us party also.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by rohitbarjatya View Post
    ur budget is preety goood....
    intel core 2 duo 3 or more ghz
    ram 3 gb ddr1(not ddr2).
    HHD- 360 gb
    speeker Intex 2200wats
    mouse/keyboard -TVS
    moniter - Samsung LCD 19"
    TV tuner card - pixalTV
    Sony DVD writter
    LAN card- any
    and additional hardware as u required

    and save some money to give us party also.......
    Some more changes

    This computer is for a student ...if i am not wrong ...so tv tuner card is not necessary

    Without minimum 256mb Graphics you cannot reliably boot Windows vista or Windows 7 .... All software released in the future may not be compatible with windows xp when Microsoft decides to stop support for it


    4gb ddr ram = 2 gb ddr2 ram

    ddr2 is more efficient and faster .... better go for it ....

    Price difference between SATA and HDD is very low .... but speed of SATA is high ... so better go for it too ...... Going for HDD (outdated will save you atmost 800 rs)

    Using SATA will decrease installation time ... decrease in time taken for saving data into ur drives .... faster data access for programs

    If you buy outdated tech now .. You can only resell it for scrap

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    I have decided to go for the following configuration...
    Intel Quadcore
    Intel DG35 Motherboard
    2GB DDR2 Ram
    250GB SATA harddirve
    HP color printer
    Logitech Keyboard and mouse.
    APC 500va UPS
    4GB pendrive
    Intex cabinet
    Creative inspire 5.1 speakers
    17" lg lcd monitor
    LG DVD-RW Optical drive

    All of this costs me around 37k in my city including taxes..

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    Nice config but choose a good cabinet or case thats well ventilated.

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    Thanks harsham.Ya will take care of good ventilation

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    And a 400W or higher power supply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by just4kix View Post
    And a 400W or higher power supply.
    Why is this for ??? I have not bought it before

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    It depends up on your need.If you really want your system to be faster make sure you have the correct RAM configuration.

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    @gurusam, you will need a 400 watt power supply(psu) as you have a quad core processor just like J4K mentioned. It will draw more power than a dual core or single core processor. If you will be installing a graphic card later on. I recommend 500, 600 watts if you are installing graphic cards. I recommend you go for a branded PSU like Cooler master as the efficiency is more. It is expensive but go for it.

    A computer begins to crash or not boot with a faulty psu or a lower power rating one.

    400 watt cooler master - Rs 2200
    500 watt cooler master - Rs 2600

    Go for 500 watt!

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    Default hey

    hey frends i hav build my new pc at home.


    intel dboard DG33FB = 4800 rs
    intel core2deo E8400 3Ghz, 6MB L2 Cache 45nm = 7200 rs
    trancand 1GB ddr2 667 sdram (8 GB max) = 850 rs
    cget 80 GB hdd = 1700 rs
    cget 500GB hdd = 3000 rs
    DVD multi re rw SAMSUNG = 1300 rs
    Cabinet with 3 fan's (4+6 USB port) = 1700 rs


    i hav my old monitor 22"

    is that ok?
    one mor think wich grafic card is best for 3d work? n how its cost?
    plz help me

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    I will advise Core2©QuadTM. I will also suggest at least 2 GB RAM - RAM is cheap and most useful.

    And what is cget HDD? Do you mean Seagate? Cause, i have never heard of cget.
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    I will suggest that you rethink about the following. My suggestions are

    Quad Core with 45nm will be costly and will not add on any extra performance as of now (not many Applications today can take advantage of the Quad Core processor)
    For your budget you will be better off with a good Core 2 Duo Processor (45nm with 6-12MB L2 Cache). Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Processor (3.16 Ghz, 45 nm, 6 MB L2 Cache) will cost you 9k some change.

    Seriously think about the motherboard, I am sure there are better Motherboards at the same price. I will suggest ASUS or Gigabyte with better features/bundle

    Put in more RAM, its cheaper and makes your PC faster (preferably get DDR2 800Mhz or 1000Mhz) however a word of caution, make sure that its compatible with your Motherboard.

    Think about a good Video Card, its a necessity nowdays. I will suggest the
    Palit ATI Radeon HD4650 video card with 512MB GDDR3 memory (its available for around 5 or less)

    Get a good Cabinet and SMPS Unit, this ensure a hassle free Desktop. If possible go in for 3rd Party cooling (nothing too expensive, coolermaster is good) this along with a good SMPS unit reduces the noise of the Desktop.

    Regards

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    the best suggestion is buy Intel Core 2 quad And With nvidia 9200 Gt 256 mb and 250 gb of hard disk and minium 2 gb ram and 22 tft and genuie Xp!!!!!!!!

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    hav got ur ans

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    I am planning to buy a new desktop. My Usage is as follows:
    (a) my computer may remain switched on for more than 24 hours at a stretch.
    (b) ordinary games like: Counter-strike, GTA, etc/
    (c) Watching and Storing Movies, Movies and Movies
    (d) Storing loads of songs

    I have selected the following configuration. Please suggest whether each of them is compatible with the other or not. And if you think i should not spend on something or I should spend more on something please guide me.

    (1)CPU - Intel Quad Core Q9300 2.5 GHz (Rs. 11,000)

    (2) Motherboard - Asus P5Q Pro / MSI P45 Zilent / MSI P45-8D (which one???) (Rs.9000/9,500/8,700)

    (3) Ram - Corsair DDR2 2gbx2 (800) (Rs. 2150x2)

    (4) Hard Disk - 500 Gb Seagate x1 + 320Gb Seagatex1 (Rs.3100+2150)

    (5) Monitor - Samsung / ViewSonic = 22" (Which model no idea ??) (Rs.10,000 apprx.)

    (6) Graphic Card- 8600GT xfs - 512MB (Rs.4450)

    (7) (a)Thermaltake M9 Series VI1000BWS Mid Tower Computer Case (Rs.3750)
    or (b) Thermaltake Strike MX Series VI6001BNS Mid Tower Computer Case (Rs.3,200)
    or (c) Cooler Master Elite 335 RC-335-KKN1-GP Mid Tower Computer Case (Rs.1800)
    or (d) Cooler Master RC-690-KKN1-GP RC-690 Mid Tower Computer Case (Rs.4000)

    + Zebronics ZEB 500W Platinum Power Supply (Rs. 2600)
    + Cooler Master RS500-PCARA3 eXtreme Power Plus 500W Power supply. (Rs. 1900) (which one...?)



    My budget is Rs.45K apprx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONRULEZZ View Post
    the best suggestion is buy Intel Core 2 quad And With nvidia 9200 Gt 256 mb and 250 gb of hard disk and minium 2 gb ram and 22 tft and genuie Xp!!!!!!!!
    Plz tell me that was a Joke .

    A 10K+ processor with an onboard card ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ishjain View Post
    I am planning to buy a new desktop. My Usage is as follows:
    (a) my computer may remain switched on for more than 24 hours at a stretch.
    (b) ordinary games like: Counter-strike, GTA, etc/
    (c) Watching and Storing Movies, Movies and Movies
    (d) Storing loads of songs

    I have selected the following configuration. Please suggest whether each of them is compatible with the other or not. And if you think i should not spend on something or I should spend more on something please guide me.

    (1)CPU - Intel Quad Core Q9300 2.5 GHz (Rs. 11,000)

    (2) Motherboard - Asus P5Q Pro / MSI P45 Zilent / MSI P45-8D (which one???) (Rs.9000/9,500/8,700)

    (3) Ram - Corsair DDR2 2gbx2 (800) (Rs. 2150x2)

    (4) Hard Disk - 500 Gb Seagate x1 + 320Gb Seagatex1 (Rs.3100+2150)

    (5) Monitor - Samsung / ViewSonic = 22" (Which model no idea ??) (Rs.10,000 apprx.)

    (6) Graphic Card- 8600GT xfs - 512MB (Rs.4450)

    (7) (a)Thermaltake M9 Series VI1000BWS Mid Tower Computer Case (Rs.3750)
    or (b) Thermaltake Strike MX Series VI6001BNS Mid Tower Computer Case (Rs.3,200)
    or (c) Cooler Master Elite 335 RC-335-KKN1-GP Mid Tower Computer Case (Rs.1800)
    or (d) Cooler Master RC-690-KKN1-GP RC-690 Mid Tower Computer Case (Rs.4000)

    + Zebronics ZEB 500W Platinum Power Supply (Rs. 2600)
    + Cooler Master RS500-PCARA3 eXtreme Power Plus 500W Power supply. (Rs. 1900) (which one...?)



    My budget is Rs.45K apprx.
    I would really recommend a Phenom 2 920 instead of the Q9300. Plz read through other threads too. There are quiet a few options. Just read through them and then tell us what u think .

    PS: 45K rig with that GFX card, nnnnaaaahhiiiiiii !!!!!
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    I am building a system myself, here is my research thus far, I am open for your suggestions,

    * AMD Phenom(TM) II X4 940 quad-core processor (3.0GHz)
    * MSI DKA790GX (or) Asus M4A78-E (or) GA-MA790GP-UD4H - don't which to choose, currently none is available in market as I enquired.
    * 8GB DDR2-800MHz dual channel SDRAM (4x2048)
    * 500GB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive

    What else can I add to this ??

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    Dont u want a gfx card on that list ??
    Y 8GB RAM??? Photoshop and all kya ?

    just w8 for a few more weeks.Prices will fall(both Intel and AMD).
    U can add a good PSU(first decide if/which GFX card u want). A good looking case. Optical drive.

    Btw whats ur budget ???

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    The Motherboard comes with the 790GX chipset, has ATI HD3850 inbuilt if I remember, later I plan to add one more card if needed, if need to power more monitors.

    Yes, planning on using Photoshop too, but mainly this will be a HTPC. Optical drive I would plan a LG/Samsung DVD RW (already have one on my old pc, so the optical drive can wait).

    I believe I could plugin the HDMI to a 32" LCD TV which I already own, so that's pretty much it.

    How much SMPS Watts should I buy for this is 450 W enough for the above config. I would probably use 64 bit OS for all that RAM. If it exceeds the liquidity I have, I will cutback on RAM or HDD for later. But I am pretty certain that the Proc/Motherboard (chipset) should not change (can change only if you guys suggest a better alternative).

    I haven't decided the budget yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jai_vasanthan View Post
    The Motherboard comes with the 790GX chipset, has ATI HD3850 inbuilt if I remember, later I plan to add one more card if needed, if need to power more monitors.

    Yes, planning on using Photoshop too, but mainly this will be a HTPC. Optical drive I would plan a LG/Samsung DVD RW (already have one on my old pc, so the optical drive can wait).

    I believe I could plugin the HDMI to a 32" LCD TV which I already own, so that's pretty much it.

    How much SMPS Watts should I buy for this is 450 W enough for the above config. I would probably use 64 bit OS for all that RAM. If it exceeds the liquidity I have, I will cutback on RAM or HDD for later. But I am pretty certain that the Proc/Motherboard (chipset) should not change (can change only if you guys suggest a better alternative).

    I haven't decided the budget yet.
    It does not have a ATI3850 inbuilt, it has a ATI 3300(for the GX) and ATI3200(for 780G,ur asus one) inbuilt.
    Well since ur making a HTPC, stick with the onboard(inbuilt) card if u have no cash.
    If u wanna save cash, u can get a cheaper Processor,instead of cutting on RAM and other stuff. A 940 for an HTPC is kind of an overkill. Get a 920 or w8 for for the Tricore Phenoms to get to india.
    Btw which case did u get/plan to get for the HTPC ??

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    I haven't decided on the case yet, but will decide on it once I believe I can get these components, currently the response is not so cool, the shopwallahs don't have the components yet. They are quoting 9950 or other phenom quadcores, I don't want to buy them - so waiting and watching

    What case do you suggest, also suggest me the power rating for the SMPS.

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    well i was looking at this case, but its costly(6K).
    Antec - NSK2480

    I will not comment too much on the PSU and its wattage as i have made a few errors. This case comes with a 380W high quality 80+efficience PSU.

    If u do not want to put a GFX card, go for this one:
    Antec - NSK1480
    This good quality 350W PSU.In this case u can not put a different PSU as there is space for a mini one not a standard ATX one.


    See this place if u wanna buy the Phenom2 :
    TheITWares - Processors (CPU Intel , AMD)

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    have you tried this site

    TechShop.in - Buy Tech Online Now!!!

    seems to have Phenom Cores available...

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    that website RIPPS on new stuff. But yes it has a good range of products. Also, they have good support, they reply to ur mails inside a day. I did post a thread on the avaliability of phenoms. Its here:
    http://www.indiabroadband.net/comput...ppointing.html

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    Where are you based jai_vasanthan ? The site is just an indicator of the availability and I never pick up stuff from there. Try the computer market in your area.

    In Delhi you can try Nehru Place, for south you can try S.P Road in Bangalore

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    hey bro me in blore too. Do u get the Phenom 2 in SP road ?? Also, do they sell good quality stuff ??

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    I can get it if required...have a few guys that I know there
    Asked them to keep a close eye on Core i7 prices and call me if they fall.

    They sell good stuff but the prices vary, an outsider coming to the market for the first time is easily hoodwinked into paying more

    Let me know if you require anything will get it @best price

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    I am in Chennai - guess the procs are not yet available here, planning to go to Richie street (Chennai's Nehry Place I believe) tomorrow - update you guys if I end up purchasing it.

    I think even the processor we can get them, but the motherboard with all the HT 3.0 and support for DDR3 memory sticks is not yet available - MSI DKA790GX (or) Asus M4A78-E (or) GA-MA790GP-UD4H.

    I haven't decided which to choose, but I would have to go by one which is available, - Can you suggest any alternative other than the above with HT 3.0 support. I am not crazy about DDR3, so that can wait.
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    yes..they are

    U can try in AR Computers or Balaji Computers in SP Road. AR Computers has some good bargain prices.

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    if possible plz post the estimated prices of these products here ... as you are visiting the market ...

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    Postponed my visit to next week, as I was researching some HTPC cabinets. How do you guys think about - Silverstone Tek - LC16M (unable to post url) Designing Inspiration[/url]. Is this available in our local shops, but I believe it needs PSU to be bought separately. What will be the price of this cabinet over here ??

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    ^^ U are speaking about SilverStone Technology Co., Ltd - Designing Inspiration. Right?

    Are such expensive cabinets available in India? I do not think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jai_vasanthan View Post
    Postponed my visit to next week, as I was researching some HTPC cabinets. How do you guys think about - Silverstone Tek - LC16M (unable to post url) Designing Inspiration[/url]. Is this available in our local shops, but I believe it needs PSU to be bought separately. What will be the price of this cabinet over here ??
    hehe nice cabby but very costly(min 15k). Also, u would have a had time attaching the LCD screen on the case. Stick to the antec NSK2480. It comes with an Antec 380W PSU. Costs 6K online.

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    Yes, I was talking about that.

    How about lc17m, will that be available, doesn't have the lcd and all and that is not the worry.

    Will 380 W PSU be enough for 2(or more in future) HDD, 1 Optical Drive and AMD Phenom II 940 with the MSI DKA790GX Motherboard - do let me know.

    And NSK 2480 only accommodates MicroATX boards with little expandability !!
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    dude we are talking abt an HTPC.
    If u wanna put a Full size motherboard, the thing will be HUGE.
    Keep an HTPC simple. Put a single 1TB HDD. A phenom II X3 820(2.8Ghz 6MB L3 cache). 1 Blu ray drive. 1 ATI 4670/9600 GT green edition.

    MSI DKA790GX has 2 PCI-e slots, if used together they will operate at 8X each. So no big advantage i guess ? Other 780G mobos have 1 PCI-e slot and a few PCI slots for ur sound card, TV tuner card etc.

    Some ppl have this PSU and have the following config:
    AMD x2 7750 // 2x2gb OCZ plat. ddr2 1066 // Antec EA380 80+cert .// Sapphire 4830 - WD Caviar 640gb


    Motherboard: ASRock P45R2000-WiFi ATX
    CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz (overclocked to 3.52 GHz)
    Memory: OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) SDRAM
    Hard Drive: HITACHI 500GB 7200RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s
    Power Supply: Antec 380W ATX12V
    Computer Case: NZXT Apollo Black SECC Steel Chassis ATX Mid Tower
    Optical Drive: SAMSUNG Black 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD Burner
    Video Card: GeForce 9600 GT 512MB PCI Express 2.0 x16
    Monitor: DCLCD 20" Black Widescreen LCD Monitor, Native Resolution 1680x1050
    Keyboard: Saitek Black 104 Normal Keys 4 Function Keys USB Wired Standard Eclipse

    Took them off newegg frm customers reviews. I hope they are telling the truth.

    If u have the cash(which by the looks is not an issue for u), get a corsair modular PSU. This one would be good:
    Corsair CMPSU-620HX 620W Power Supply - CMPSU-620HX by: Corsair -

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