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Broad Band Connection in INDIA compared to AMERICA and EUROPE

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    Hi Guys.

    Compared to INDIA the ountries in the west charge less (as per their currency) and have huge data cap and speed.

    Which will never happen in INDIA because the all telecom companies want to fill their pockets with money rather then provide internet at cheap rates. Here are some example (will update more lately)

    America AT&T :

    Plan name Price/$/P/m Speed/Mbps
    Max turbo 66 24
    Max Plus 56 18
    Max 51 12
    Elite 46 6
    Pro 41 3


    Imagine guys they 66$ for 24Mbps and we pay in thousand for a speed of 6Mbps.


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    Its seriously ridicoulous the amount we have to pay for broadband connections and the speeds we are supposed to get. Yep the supposed to get is in bold, as most of the time we dont get the speed that we are paying the money for. And yet they say we want to make India a better place.....by what ripping off the customers???

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    Do you ever think we would get such speeds for the kind of price America or Europe provide?

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    Trust me we will get good broadband service in future. We just do not have good last mile connectivity thats all. These countries we see with such nice broadband availablility are all run on Government lines. We have Mtnl and Bsnl but the cables are neglected and unreliable and thats why last mile sharing was never allowed in India. If the networks would have been better then we could get an airtel connection on an Mtnl line and so on. This is how it works in other countries where government companies shared their last mile for a charge with private operators.

    We wont need this in future thanks to LTE Let RIL launch and all your complaints would be gone.
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    One thing you can say for sure is that the customer service in America and Europe is much much better. Problems are resolved and not left without being resolved, and customers are definitely not ignored like they are in India.

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    I'm coming from Europe, and while it's true that most governments there have posted large sums into copper for last-mile access, then it's also true that the state of these copper-lines is very poor today (I have worked for BT and TDC on systems to address just this issue ). The best lines in Europe these days are from the private FTTH providers. They have seen that FTTH is the future and that their investment today will come back at some point. The "old" government telcos are trying to fight the FTTH providers by regulation, but, not very successfully. Accordingly, ADSL is quite expensive (and relatively less bandwidth) in the areas without competition from FTTH or cable operators.

    (Small example, my home in Europe is in a village, yet, I have 90/90 Mbps FTTH for 499DKK/month -- 499DKK is equivalent to about two hours of work there -- and if 30/30 Mbps is enough for me, just 169DKK/month -- less than one hour of work).

    I didn't know about sharing is not allowed, it should be. Likewise, India should privatize BSNL/MTNL, but, that's probably a very different discussion

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    As you said you have worked for BT, you must have noticed that there are so many adsl service providers that use BT telephone lines and their exchanges to provide broadband but this is not allowed in India and the only reason I know is that the quality of Bsnl/Mtnl cables is just too bad and if the government would have shared last mile then broadband provided by private companies would have been equally good or bad as the case is with Bsnl/Mtnl. Mtnl lines in my whole area are down for the last 3 months now and I am sure this does not happen in Europe. Had private operators been using the same lines we would have a complete black out in the area.

    It would make sense sharing last mile with private companies if the quality of lines was any good. Its in the best interest I believe that they are not shared here in India.

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    Wow, 3 months, that's quite serious stuff You're right that would not happen in Europe -- a phone-connection is a "right" in many countries, and the old government telcos are often required to deliver a phone-connection with a certain up-time by law.

    On the ADSL front it's a different story though: There are many areas without any ADSL connectivity -- the telcos don't care, because it's not any profit to them, and they're not required by law to deliver. For example TDC (Denmark) can deliver ADSL to 98% homes, but only guarantee 256kbps. I don't have the exact numbers anymore, but, it wasn't many who could attain the high 10+Mbps speeds on ADSL, even inside the capital.

    Maybe the solution is to leap forward, like with cell-network -- just get the last-mile fiber rolled out I guess an operator like Railtel has enough infrastructure to support it. For example like signing up apartment complexes for fiber + internet ethernet wiring.

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    Cables and India dont go together. We do not have organized housing in the entire country with just a few exceptions here and there. We would have a constantly increasing market share of wireless connections even though it would give you a lot worse latency but to an average user it does not matter and most common users dont even know there is such a thing.

    4G is my hope and that too RIL. If RIL has anything left of the killer instinct they had in the 90s when they rolled out mobile services and brought down the prices to be the lowest in the world then I am sure thats exactly whats going to happen to broadband I know a few people here and there and what I hear from them is all good news till now unless there is a different story cooking higher up in the management. We would only find out once they launch.

    100% FDI is also allowed in telecom now but I doubt any company would venture into the Indian market given the state of governance we have in the country.

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