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01-25-09, 07:38 PM

on friday 23rd jan,

in a press conference in jaipur amitabh came up with his latest controversial opinion saying that "oscar is not the ultimate recognition"

Amitabh says Oscars not ultimate recognition

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Bollywood superstar Amitabh Bachchan on Friday said Oscar awards should not be considered as the “ultimate recognition” for artists, although he was glad that those working behind the scenes were finally getting their due credit.

“You people have taken the Oscar as the best recognition and award,” Bachchan said when asked if there was dearth of good Indian movies as very few had managed to get into the Oscar race.

“They are great in their place and we are so in our place. It is not that Oscar awards are the ultimate recognition,” he told an audience during the release of the book “Bachchanalia” at the Jaipur Literature Festival here.

“Oscar has its own place…we do not disrespect it…. If they wish to give us an Oscar they can do it…if not, it would be even better,” he said.

India cinema has always stood first, stands first, is the best, Oscar has its own place,” Bachchan said at the interaction.

However, he added he was happy that the artists who were working behind the scenes were finally getting their due recognition, also emphasizing the nomination of sound director Rasool Pookutty for an Oscar was also important, besides that of Rahman and Gulzar.

“It is encouraging when we see that the media, which conducts the film award ceremonies in India has started recognizing the worth of background artists. Rasool, a sound engineer from India being nominated for the Oscar awards is definitely wonderful news and makes me terribly happy for him,” Bachchan said.

“Moreover, I hope that Rahman, who has already done India immensely proud brings back a second Oscar to the country,” he said, a day after Indians bagged six Oscar nominations

The 66-year-old legendary actor also chose to clarify his remarks over Danny Boyle’s film Slumdog Millionaire that bagged 10 Oscar nominations.

Bachchan said he believed the film was an artist’s creative presentation and everyone had the right of expression. He clarified he had not in his blog said the film was negative in depicting the poverty of India.

“The words (criticizing the film) were not mine. In fact, in my blog I had analyzed some comments on the film put on my blog by the readers. I have since then spoken to both Anil Kapoor and Danny Boyle and clarified my position,” Bachchan said.

On why he did not attend a nomination function despite an invite from Anil Kapoor, he said he was busy and conveyed his good wishes and congratulations to the entire team of Slumdog Millionaire.

Asked whether Indian movies were fulfilling the aspirations of viewers and reviewers abroad, Bachchan said he was very happy as Indian films were catering to amount 2.5 billion people. “Look at cinema from the beginning, 50-70 years ago, it was not well respected…no one wanted to join the film line then, now Indian cinema has grown tremendously, enveloped all of us. “Criticism and cynicism at the international level gives us a satisfaction of growing Indian cinema’s standard. We are a pioneer in film
creativity and talent is no way inferior…if given an opportunity, we can make brilliant films for foreign competition,” he said.

“Indian movies have now got greater acceptability… more and more movies are being screened in foreign countries like Japan, US and China,” Bachchan said.

Praising the 10 Oscar nominations for Slumdog Millionaire, Bachchan said Bhanu Athaiya, the costume designer of film Gandhi, was the first to get the Oscar award

mark these words of him -> “Oscar has its own place…we do not disrespect it…. If they wish to give us an Oscar they can do it…if not, it would be even better,”

what do you think he wants to say ... is there an Indian award ceremony which recognizes movies from all over the world? OSCAR is undoubtedly the most prestigious award in the movie industry and it makes no sense to be skeptical about it ... i think these comments are just for the sake of sounding controversial and being in the limelight ...

aashaka_gandhi · 01-26-09, 01:18 AM

hmmmm well he still has the point when he says
You people have taken the Oscar as the best recognition and award,”

India cinema has always stood first, stands first, is the best, Oscar has its own place

Criticism and cynicism at the international level gives us a satisfaction of growing Indian cinema’s standard. We are a pioneer in film
creativity and talent is no way inferior…if given an opportunity, we can make brilliant films for foreign competition,” he said.

01-26-09, 01:23 AM

May be Oscar is recognize as the best award but still I never believe Oscar is the ultimate award specially for Indian movie.Always they can't understand the Indian sentiment & emotion they only compare Indian movie in US parameter

aashaka_gandhi · 01-26-09, 01:26 AM

yea rupu.....indian movies r usually made for a different kind of audience......!!!! indian movies r entertainment for all kinds of ppl arnd....!!!

there r times when sum class of ppl dont like the movie wherein tht movie is such a hit amongst another class of ppl...so in all it matters.....! n indian movies r made for massess......

ag_prasun · 01-26-09, 01:32 AM

i absolutely second that notion.
the west only recognises our work when we show the poverty stricken,hunger struck,half-naked, and rioting india.whether it was mother india,lagaan, or now slumdog.movies like tzp and rdb find no takers!!

01-26-09, 02:41 AM

I ALSO agree with all ur points ...but is there any indian award function or recognition body which praises foreign films ... are we so superior in film industry that we dont at all need to look into other language movies ... and yes ... being an indian we would always say that we are pioneer in this field ... but are we ?? indian directors cannot even copy/remake a superhit plot successfully most of the times...

i personally think that aamir khan is a real genious - both in his acting and principles ... he never runs after indian awards but was eager to get close to oscar with tzp & lagaan ... why is it so then that the best of indian actors care more abt foreign awards than the indian awards ...

cool_techie_tvm · 01-26-09, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by saurav_kataruka

I ALSO agree with all ur points ...but is there any indian award function or recognition body which praises foreign films

Do not know about other states, but in Kerala there is an IFFK held every year.

Checkout ::IFFK - 13th International Film Festival of Kerala 12th-19th Dec 2008::

01-26-09, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cool_techie_tvm

Do not know about other states, but in Kerala there is an IFFK held every year.

Checkout ::IFFK - 13th International Film Festival of Kerala 12th-19th Dec 2008::

such film festivals are in every state of india ... even the kolkata film festival is known to recognize international films ... what i wanted to say is that ... these are not known globally known nor these film festivals are approved by movies all over the world ... i mean ... u cannot compare oscars with indian state film festivals

Rameshjeee · 01-26-09, 02:13 PM

If AB had won any Oscar award's & if after that he was saying this...then that makes sense...anyways everyone have their own views...

aashaka_gandhi · 01-27-09, 06:04 PM

to the point jee......

01-27-09, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rameshjeee

If AB had won any Oscar award's & if after that he was saying this...then that makes sense...anyways everyone have their own views...

Yes i agree with Ramesh although i never believe that Oscar is the ultimate recolonization for any actor but still AB and his family always try to achieve some international award and they very much promote their movie in the Cannes festival or any other overseas film festival.Now still he did not got the Oscar or equivalent award so may be that the reason for this comment.

01-27-09, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rupu1983

Yes i agree with Ramesh although i never believe that Oscar is the ultimate recolonization for any actor but still AB and his family always try to archive some international award and they very much promote their movie in the Cannes festival or any other overseas film festival.Now still he did not got the Oscar or equivalent award so may be that the reason for this comment.

probably AB is too pissed off with the success of slumdog ... a movie based on a show on which he was the host ...

ag_prasun · 01-27-09, 11:57 PM

ab has always been like that.he always promotes indian cinema as indian cinema.he never uses the term bollywood,as it is an aping of hollywood.
why do we have to promote our films?? a tom cruise or keanu reeves never comes to india to prmote their film.we are the ones running behiind them madly...
even aishwarya denied the money-spinner will smith for hitch..its clear that they go over lots of hings before jumping into an international assignment.

rafiqvden · 01-31-09, 06:00 AM

oscars is the deprivation of west and america where they feel guilty

devrajofjaipur · 02-10-09, 04:01 PM

Wait for any of his movies to get nominated and then see what his views are. This is a classic case of "the grapes are sour" or "angoor khatte hai". Oscar may not be ultimate but are more genuine than all "balaji awards" and "screen awards" etc etc...

Rameshjeee · 02-10-09, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by devrajofjaipur

Wait for any of his movies to get nominated and then see what his views are.

For that first let him act in any movie...then lets see whether it gets nominated or not...

just4kix · 02-10-09, 05:06 PM

The mainstream Oscar Awards or Academy Awards are meant for Hollywood/English films only, i.e., films made by either the Hollywood studios or affiliates of the MPAA.

They just have one category for all world movies - Best Foreign Film.

Mr. Bachchan is right. People wrongly equate Oscars as the best.

So are our films as good as Hollywood? Sadly no. That does not mean Hollywood does not produce trash. We get to hear about and see only the so called blockbusters. Such films are no more than 25% of the total produced.

But Hollywood is completely different in the way they operate. The studios control the production. And there is an elaborate process to select the story. The casting director is as important as the main director. The main job of the casting director is to find the right person for the role. And finally, Hollywood does not produce films based on the current success formula - so much so that the formula becomes stale.

However, Indian films are in made for a different context. As said in earlier posts, they are made to entertain the masses. The typical Indian is devoid of mass entertainment. People in India go to see a movie and say at the end of the movie - paisa vasool. Hence Indian films need to have a good guy, a beautiful heroine, a bad guy, fights, romance, melodrama, songs and dances, tragedy, comedy, etc. all built into a single fighting unit. This job is not easy.

02-14-09, 06:43 PM

very well said j4k

indian movies are basically made for mass entertainment but the content matters. its not that the content has to be old or dull for films to be mass-entertaining. contents in the film like taare zameen par, rang de basanti are admired world wide all though these movies are mass entertaining.

The Sorcerer · 02-14-09, 07:19 PM

Its only recent that flim makers are making a more frequent series of sensible movies- like Mumbai meri Jaan, Rock on (diluted version of almost famous- but suits the Indian crowd), Dev D, Raang de basanti, etc. We need to acknowledge that there's a huge difference between commerical hit movies and a really good movie. The classic Indian movies were much better than the crappy ones we get. Shahrukh Khan plays safe to earn money by being in romantic movies by extending his arms in the air whereas Akshay Kumar comes in darn senseless movies as if the Indian crowd is a bunch of dumbarse. What does Amitabh Bachan want- his son who is dancing with the pigeons at Delhi-6 getting nominated for oscars :P? Get a life old man!

02-18-09, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Sorcerer

Its only recent that flim makers are making a more frequent series of sensible movies- like Mumbai meri Jaan, Rock on (diluted version of almost famous- but suits the Indian crowd), Dev D, Raang de basanti, etc. We need to acknowledge that there's a huge difference between commerical hit movies and a really good movie. The classic Indian movies were much better than the crappy ones we get. Shahrukh Khan plays safe to earn money by being in romantic movies by extending his arms in the air whereas Akshay Kumar comes in darn senseless movies as if the Indian crowd is a bunch of dumbarse. What does Amitabh Bachan want- his son who is dancing with the pigeons at Delhi-6 getting nominated for oscars :P? Get a life old man!

i agree with whatever you said ... but Delhi 6 seems to be a sensible movie ...

01-26-09, 02:41 AM	#6
saurav_k Guest Posts: n/a	I ALSO agree with all ur points ...but is there any indian award function or recognition body which praises foreign films ... are we so superior in film industry that we dont at all need to look into other language movies ... and yes ... being an indian we would always say that we are pioneer in this field ... but are we ?? indian directors cannot even copy/remake a superhit plot successfully most of the times... i personally think that aamir khan is a real genious - both in his acting and principles ... he never runs after indian awards but was eager to get close to oscar with tzp & lagaan ... why is it so then that the best of indian actors care more abt foreign awards than the indian awards ... Last edited by saurav_k; 01-26-09 at 02:42 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

02-10-09, 05:06 PM	#17
just4kix Platinum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 8,899 Blog Entries: 6 Rep Power: 19	The mainstream Oscar Awards or Academy Awards are meant for Hollywood/English films only, i.e., films made by either the Hollywood studios or affiliates of the MPAA. They just have one category for all world movies - Best Foreign Film. Mr. Bachchan is right. People wrongly equate Oscars as the best. So are our films as good as Hollywood? Sadly no. That does not mean Hollywood does not produce trash. We get to hear about and see only the so called blockbusters. Such films are no more than 25% of the total produced. But Hollywood is completely different in the way they operate. The studios control the production. And there is an elaborate process to select the story. The casting director is as important as the main director. The main job of the casting director is to find the right person for the role. And finally, Hollywood does not produce films based on the current success formula - so much so that the formula becomes stale. However, Indian films are in made for a different context. As said in earlier posts, they are made to entertain the masses. The typical Indian is devoid of mass entertainment. People in India go to see a movie and say at the end of the movie - paisa vasool. Hence Indian films need to have a good guy, a beautiful heroine, a bad guy, fights, romance, melodrama, songs and dances, tragedy, comedy, etc. all built into a single fighting unit. This job is not easy. __________________ * Never argue with an idiot * To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. \| To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. \| To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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01-26-09, 01:18 AM	#2
aashaka_gandhi De WatEvaa SweetHeart Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ahmedabad Posts: 3,046 Rep Power: 8	hmmmm well he still has the point when he says You people have taken the Oscar as the best recognition and award,” India cinema has always stood first, stands first, is the best, Oscar has its own place Criticism and cynicism at the international level gives us a satisfaction of growing Indian cinema’s standard. We are a pioneer in film creativity and talent is no way inferior…if given an opportunity, we can make brilliant films for foreign competition,” he said.

01-26-09, 01:23 AM	#3
rupu1983 Guest Posts: n/a	May be Oscar is recognize as the best award but still I never believe Oscar is the ultimate award specially for Indian movie.Always they can't understand the Indian sentiment & emotion they only compare Indian movie in US parameter

01-26-09, 01:26 AM	#4
aashaka_gandhi De WatEvaa SweetHeart Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ahmedabad Posts: 3,046 Rep Power: 8	yea rupu.....indian movies r usually made for a different kind of audience......!!!! indian movies r entertainment for all kinds of ppl arnd....!!! there r times when sum class of ppl dont like the movie wherein tht movie is such a hit amongst another class of ppl...so in all it matters.....! n indian movies r made for massess......

01-26-09, 01:32 AM	#5
ag_prasun Silver Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Age: 22 Posts: 438 Rep Power: 2	i absolutely second that notion. the west only recognises our work when we show the poverty stricken,hunger struck,half-naked, and rioting india.whether it was mother india,lagaan, or now slumdog.movies like tzp and rdb find no takers!!

01-26-09, 02:13 PM	#9
Rameshjeee Aadhavan is Coming Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Leaving Chennai Age: 26 Posts: 3,075 Rep Power: 10	If AB had won any Oscar award's & if after that he was saying this...then that makes sense...anyways everyone have their own views...

01-27-09, 06:04 PM	#10
aashaka_gandhi De WatEvaa SweetHeart Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ahmedabad Posts: 3,046 Rep Power: 8	to the point jee......

01-27-09, 11:57 PM	#13
ag_prasun Silver Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Age: 22 Posts: 438 Rep Power: 2	ab has always been like that.he always promotes indian cinema as indian cinema.he never uses the term bollywood,as it is an aping of hollywood. why do we have to promote our films?? a tom cruise or keanu reeves never comes to india to prmote their film.we are the ones running behiind them madly... even aishwarya denied the money-spinner will smith for hitch..its clear that they go over lots of hings before jumping into an international assignment.

01-31-09, 06:00 AM	#14
rafiqvden Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Age: 46 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	oscars is the deprivation of west and america where they feel guilty

02-10-09, 04:01 PM	#15
devrajofjaipur Bronze Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 239 Rep Power: 1	Wait for any of his movies to get nominated and then see what his views are. This is a classic case of "the grapes are sour" or "angoor khatte hai". Oscar may not be ultimate but are more genuine than all "balaji awards" and "screen awards" etc etc...

02-14-09, 06:43 PM	#18
saurav_k Guest Posts: n/a	very well said j4k indian movies are basically made for mass entertainment but the content matters. its not that the content has to be old or dull for films to be mass-entertaining. contents in the film like taare zameen par, rang de basanti are admired world wide all though these movies are mass entertaining.

02-14-09, 07:19 PM	#19
The Sorcerer Bronze Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Age: 23 Posts: 103 Rep Power: 2	Its only recent that flim makers are making a more frequent series of sensible movies- like Mumbai meri Jaan, Rock on (diluted version of almost famous- but suits the Indian crowd), Dev D, Raang de basanti, etc. We need to acknowledge that there's a huge difference between commerical hit movies and a really good movie. The classic Indian movies were much better than the crappy ones we get. Shahrukh Khan plays safe to earn money by being in romantic movies by extending his arms in the air whereas Akshay Kumar comes in darn senseless movies as if the Indian crowd is a bunch of dumbarse. What does Amitabh Bachan want- his son who is dancing with the pigeons at Delhi-6 getting nominated for oscars :P? Get a life old man!