Thread: Whats happenin to me?

Hello all... lately whenever i see any beggar or any person suffering, i'm so filled with compassion and emotions for the person that i just can't get a grip on myself...
even if i see a cow or a dog on the road or some garbage dump, i have such a strong urge to do something for them and when i see that i can't at the moment, i feel so ashamed that i feel disgusted with myself.... these feelings were always there in me but lately they have just taken a new height..

i know it must b funny that i am posting about this but where else do i discuss? my friends are all the typical careless type... i wish i cud b like them... what shud i do to get a grip on myself??

This shows that how great are you at heart.
You should respect your feelings. You should be happy that you're are not alike your friends.

One thing..if you find any beggar on street and you think of giving them something, it doesn't mean that you're helping them rather you're promoting begging, we should not promote this kind of things it will ultimately involve more and more people into this, even kids of around 2-3 age can be seen to road specially near signals.

DONT PROMOTE THIS

Well thanks for replying Manish, nobody else seems interested... and now i'm just feeling flatterd what u said...i can't b that gr8, after all i cud hardly do anything for that...
actually i'm not talking about the kids who beg, i don't pay heed to them,
but the one's who are very old, the poor things i guess even have hardly anything to eat... now as i'm writing this i'm getting filled with emotions...

Well, its gr8 to be compassionate. But the world is not always as it seems to be kid. Be kind but dnt get carried away.Its a pretty treacherous place we live in buddy.

Originally Posted by Manish

This shows that how great are you at heart.
You should respect your feelings. You should be happy that you're are not alike your friends.

One thing..if you find any beggar on street and you think of giving them something, it doesn't mean that you're helping them rather you're promoting begging, we should not promote this kind of things it will ultimately involve more and more people into this, even kids of around 2-3 age can be seen to road specially near signals.

DONT PROMOTE THIS

I had a very bad experience a few days back.
i was walking past this slum area, and two boys maybe around 5-6 yrs old came near me askin for alms. Cute lil kids i thought and was searchin my purse for money, and then suddenly another appeared out of nowhere and started fightin with these kids to grab the money.

it freaked me out. I mean in no time maybe 20 kids could appear, so i just ran from there.
yeh i do feel sorry for those kids, but i really dint know wat else to do in that situation!

Right to education bill will sort out this problem to an extent. After this right to education bill is passed if a parent doesnt send their children to school they would be punishable by law.

Begging or working by children should be stopped by all means. Those employing kids should be punished harshly ... atleast a 5 year jail sentence.

Yeah... It should stop... Every child has got right to enjoy his childhood & get proper education... That will only make them better citizens... And India will take pride in that...

StarryKnight U've a heart of Gold... I know it better than anyone else here... Very hard to find people like u nowadays... Keep it up dude... :thumbup1: & Plz don't change ever...

Then what will happen to the orphan children who need to work for living. No one will give them job because of the fear of law/punishment.

StarryKnight there is nothing wrong with you. Do whatever you think is right. And don't feel sorry for what you didn't do. Feel proud for what you did do.
Good Luck! :thumbup1:

I quite agree that child labour is a disgusting concept and each and every child should be allowed the rights to a happy juvenility. Having said that, dont u think its absurd to argue about a poor childs rights in a society where even a GROWN MAN is made to forget his own rights.
Forget the whole thing my friend. We r victims of false democracy.
In a country where almost every person is literate and knows GOOD from BAD, democracy is a bliss. BUT IN A COUNTRY WHERE THE MAJORITY IS ILLITERATE, DEMOCRACY IS A CURSE.
We needed a strong hand, a dictator perhaps, to shape us after our independence(?).
Instead we got the filthy remains of a bloody war making us eternal slaves.

@ Evander Leopold

:lol: I think u've gone too far in suggesting to have a dictator... There have been many dictators in Pakistan... see where it is... but yes, in India democracy is being abused... So, stronger laws are definitely needed...

Originally Posted by vishnus89

Then what will happen to the orphan children who need to work for living. No one will give them job because of the fear of law/punishment.

It is very wrong to make orphan children work like slaves.. Govt. & NGO's are working in this area to take care of them... Couples should also come fwd and start adopting them... Have a baby...and adopt a baby... that should be the voice echoing everywhere in the country... Will help to reduce population too...

Originally Posted by itsmemad

It is very wrong to make orphan children work like slaves.. Govt. & NGO's are working in this area to take care of them... Couples should also come fwd and start adopting them... Have a baby...and adopt a baby... that should be the voice echoing everywhere in the country... Will help to reduce population too...

Adopting is not always possible is it. :surrender:

Originally Posted by itsmemad

@ Evander Leopold

:lol: I think u've gone too far in suggesting to have a dictator...

--- so u urge for stronger laws. But who will uphold the laws. YOU?? ME??
we r only two grains of barley driftin in an ocean. Personally i believe 75% of all people r basically bad for morale. At least with one dictator u get a 50-50 chance.In INDIA, where the ministers still believe that quota system will do backward classes more favours than equally distributed rights to food and education, You can hardly find out - who is more ignorant, the ministers or the common peasant.

Think about what i just said. not just with brain, but with more BRAIN.

the question is so small but the context is much bigger than "working unfed babies".
in the end, its a question of our survival. the names of a few indian merchants on the worlds richest list doesnt necessarily mean we r developing.
And yes "vishnus89", adoption is not always possible.

Originally Posted by vishnus89

Adopting is not always possible is it. :surrender:

Yes, it isn't... but govt. should spread more awareness about it... rather than saying Hum do, humare do... I mean then more people can come fwd...

Thats positive thinking from "itsmemad", but what i want to say is, justified ideas like
this will never come from an unjustified system like this.

This is a really good debate please create a new thread. I think that will be great. :19:

@ Evander Leopold
A dictator can make situation worse... What if we have a dictator & he goes mad after few yrs... to satisfy his ego.... like Hitler & Musoloni...

Forget history...Present is filled with those maniac dictators too...They terrorize and abuse the rights of their own people..... for example - Kim Jong-il of North Korea, Omar al-Bashir of Sudan, Than Shwe of Burma, Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe, Islam Karimov of Uzbekistan etc... do a wiki search on them... U'll know they are not taking their countries any further...

U still wanna give a single person the chance to become a dictator... I'm telling u friend, its not worth taking a chance....

cheers!

Originally Posted by vishnus89

This is a really good debate please create a new thread. I think that will be great. :19:

I've had enough of it... :lol:

Originally Posted by itsmemad

I've had enough of it... :lol:

StarryKnight is going to be sad seeing no valuable advices. But a debate with to babies (smart ones offcourse). :lol:

Originally Posted by vishnus89

StarryKnight sad seeing no valuable advices

My apologies to StarryKnight for highjacking his thread... I'm sure he won't mind...

Originally Posted by Evander Leopold

We needed a strong hand, a dictator perhaps, to shape us after our independence(?).
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i m ignoring the quip about doin a wicky search...
why confuse A STRONG PERSON with someone like Omar of Sudan, Why not
think about a freedom fighter like Subhash Bose.Think to the core. There r unwritten words in every line.
This is no petty debate which can be had enough of. If we r not prone to thinking, no thread discussion in the world can do the 'third world victims' any good.

A good night to all of you.

My apologies to starry night too. Lets put an end to this.

Come on the discussion was good.. I don't mind, i wudn't hav liked u to go on for me over an over again .... Thanx all who gave their valuable suggestions and advice,
and thanx for ur compliments itsmemad, but what i dread is whether these feelings will make me a failure at life or will make me more vulnerable in situations?

Originally Posted by StarryKnight

what i dread is whether these feelings will make me a failure at life or will make me more vulnerable in situations?

You know just realized, I used to be like that a few years before. But many things happened and I changed.

Originally Posted by StarryKnight

Well thanks for replying Manish, nobody else seems interested... and now i'm just feeling flatterd what u said...i can't b that gr8, after all i cud hardly do anything for that...
actually i'm not talking about the kids who beg, i don't pay heed to them,
but the one's who are very old, the poor things i guess even have hardly anything to eat... now as i'm writing this i'm getting filled with emotions...

No need to thanks man!!!
one cant figure out that who is really in need of bucks which makes the situation more worse. Sometimes we hesitate to help someone just because we are not sure.

But one thing I am very sure...I never offers a penny to kids because most of them are involved in Drugs..you might not be aware that these kids are actually addicted to a product called FLUID (- an white stationery product commonly used for rectifying our error)

I know that FLUID thing... I have seen those rag-pickers kid up close in the gardens near Palika Bazar, Delhi... Its a very precarious situation...

well...... i would like to tell few words and experiences too... firstly.. starrynight u have heart of gold.. as said earlier... who really feels something for others.. other wise in this cruel selfish world.. no one is bothered for others.. everyone is behind money.. and their living..

further as our gal alexina told.. about her experience.. i have seen many ppl.. old or young beggers... they beg from morning til night... ppl give them money.. thinking of their sad condition.. misery and some disabilities and other problems..usually i think 90% of them what they do is drink desi alcohol(daaru).. whole day smoke beedis.. if possible to get they smoke weed... (i have seen personally beggers drinking.. smoking..) all this is not meant when ones condition is not even for their own living.. they pass their life by just begging..they cant work or earn ,, nothing.. whateva they get money FROM BEGGING.. they mostly waste in such wrong things.. what they eat>>>?? huh.. ppl give whatver is extra food.. spoiled or whateve.. that they eat... they never think of living a healthy life.. by making use of that money in buying good healthy food instead for alcohol n smoking.. they never change..my point is its ok if they beg... but from that money what they make use is wrong...


one instance i have seen .. two children came in around me.. and my friend.. asked for money.. we gave them 1 rupee...asked them to go away... they said frankly.. with this one rupee what we will get ? atleast give some 5 to 10 rupees....then we both started thinking.. tht 1 rupee what we gave was waste ,,,instead we shouldnt have given them at all.. then as we told go away,, they went to near by one more guy.. stated aksinf for money... that guy was smart... he told those kids.. in loud voice.. bloody.. y u ppl begging? u want money? ok do one thing... i will give u ppl some work for one hour.. u do tht.. i will give u money and food both... simply like this begging.. it will lead u making habit ... they wont think of doing hard work and earning their life... and guess what was the reaction of those kids...
bloody hell.. they were giggling n laughing... ran away...




this is the condition.. if they were asked to work they ran off...


overall i have come to conclusion.. i also get touched sometimes.. by seeing some ppls sad conditions..


but... i never give MONEY to beggers...instead i insist for giving old clothes, food, water,,,,, but NO CASH... :nono: