Thread: Talk to a Girl and Get expelled from College

I meant its hard to believe for a Convent to have such rules

I think its not that strict now as it used to be 3~4 years before...

Originally Posted by powerdoc

Isn't any of this unconstitutional ?
Promoting discrimination or something like that.
I'm no expert on legal matters...hope someone with more knowledge will shed some light on this.

No, it is not unconstitutional. Where is the discrimination?

I am no lawyer but have lot of experience with law ;-)

-F

p.s I personally think it is a stupid system but it's a private
institution and they can do what they want within the
bounds of the law.

Originally Posted by smoothvibes

this is a sad thing :sad:
matlab how can you survive in a university without talking to girls or without smoking and even without sitting together :confused1:
strange rules

yeah, who will help the boys with their homework and assignments ;-)

-F

Yes It is unconstitutional it is violating the constitution's Part III Fundamental rights article 19 & 15

Originally Posted by rupu1983

Yes It is unconstitutional it is violating the constitution's Part III Fundamental rights article 19 & 15

are you serious? were you joking? If not can you get me that
part of the constitution and post it here?

thanks
-F

Right to Freedom
19. Protection of certain rights regarding freedom of speech, etc.-
(1) All citizens shall have the right-
(a) to freedom of speech and expression;

Nobody can stop anyone to talk with other person whether other person is male or female if they did that's violation of constitution.
except in emergency in india(article 33) where fundamental right can be violate.

Originally Posted by Rameshjeee

Satyabama University
Sister colleges:St.Joseph Engg College, Jeppiar Engg College

you left one,

Panimalar engineering college, it is also their sister's concern, where i studied.

Originally Posted by rupu1983

Right to Freedom
19. Protection of certain rights regarding freedom of speech, etc.-
(1) All citizens shall have the right-
(a) to freedom of speech and expression;

Nobody can stop anyone to talk with other person whether other person is male or female if they did that's violation of constitution.
except in emergency in india(article 33) where fundamental right can be violate.

the Constitutional right to freedom of speech is a very misunderstood thing.
It means the Government cannot pass laws to restrict free speech.

In a private college they can make that rule and it need not be
unconstitutional.

let me give you an extreme example. Say they have a rule
about not talking during a class in session. Do you think that is
unconstituitonal? Would you stand up during class and begin
a speech saying that was your constitutional right?

-F

p.s there are many exceptions to free speech.
libel, defamation, conspiracy, shouting fire in a theater,
profanity, threatening etc....

Now this is the law of IPC

28[***]
STATE AMENDMENT
[Vide Rajasthan Act, 1993 (4 of 1993), w.e.f. 11th. February, 1993].
State of Rajasthan:
In section 21 of the Indian Penal Code, 1860 (Central Act 45 of 1860), in its
application to the State of Rajasthan, after clause twelfth, the following new clause
shall be added, namely:-
"Thirteenth- Every person employed or engaged by any public body in the conduct
and supervision of any examination recognised or approved under any law.
Explanation- The expression 'Public Body' includes-
(a) a University, Board of Education or other body, either established by or under a
Central or State Act or under the provisions of the Constitution of India or
constituted By the Government;

So they have to maintain the constitution govt or private university.
One think i know clearly after talking with few of human rights person that nobody stop us to talk other as law in any form if they do it's violation of constitution.

Originally Posted by rupu1983

Now this is the law of IPC

So they have to maintain the constitution govt or private university.
One think i know clearly after talking with few of human rights person that nobody stop us to talk other as law in any form if they do it's violation of constitution.

Now you are mixing the penal code and the constitution.


So can I come to your living room and shout profanities at your family?
Is that constitutionally protected?

Can I incite violence without actually engaging in violence?

Can I spread false insulting things about you to your friends?

Can I shout 'fire' in a crowded theater?


-F

Originally Posted by farce

Now you are mixing the penal code and the constitution.


So can I come to your living room and shout profanities at your family?
Is that constitutionally protected?

Can I incite violence without actually engaging in violence?

Can I spread false insulting things about you to your friends?

Can I shout 'fire' in a crowded theater?


-F

This is base less question friend you can talk with other no body can stop you for that but if say something vulgar or any threat that's illegal i think you have mixed all this thinks.Actually still concept of law is not clear for you. just try to mean any law like

anyone can't talk with opposite sex

This is unconstitutional law, content of topics is not the issue here.

Another thing i just want to mention that some times University can apply few extra rules for the discipline in the campus but when they apply it that time they have to justify it with proper reason. I don't think in this case for such a rule university can justify it.If any of the student did case against the rule of the university.Lots possibility has that University will lose that case.

Originally Posted by rupu1983

This is base less question friend you can talk with other no body can stop you for that but if say something vulgar or any threat that's illegal i think you have mixed all this thinks.Actually still concept of law is not clear for you. just try to mean any law like

This is unconstitutional law, content of topics is not the issue here.

Another thing i just want to mention that some times University can apply few extra rules for the discipline in the campus but when they apply it that time they have to justify it with proper reason. I don't think in this case for such a rule university can justify it.If any of the student did case against the rule of the university.Lots possibility has that University will lose that case.

I think you are the one confusing "rules and guidelines" with "law".

what the university is doing is not "law" it is it's own "rules"

I would love to debate this but I am sort of busy right now
but just answer my two questions.

1. If this is unconstitutional, why hasn't anyone taken them to court?
2. And suppose someone takes them to court do you think a judge will
rule this as unconstitutional?

thanks
-F

Yes in first line it will be rule not law but if you read my full comment then you know that also i mention it as rule in later part only once i did mistake.

Originally Posted by rupu1983

Another thing i just want to mention that some times University can apply few extra rules for the discipline in the campus but when they apply it that time they have to justify it with proper reason. I don't think in this case for such a rule university can justify it.If any of the student did case against the rule of the university.Lots possibility has that University will lose that case.

but another thing that lots of thing is present in our country which is unconstitutional but nobody taking action against it.Those who will take admission in that college they will never go there for fighting case.
Like just check to today Delhi high court verdict against Govt decision

Smoking Scene is Allowed by Delhi High Court

Lot of this type of thing is still present in the country.

I'm sure that even those college students wouldn't have discussed so much has this issue has been discussed here...

You said it Rameshjeee.My unconstitutional question has stirred up a legal debate

LOL.....but its a lot of knowledge we r attaining from this topic....!

This is ridiculous... Its suppression of young minds... People should initiate protest against such rules...

I don't understand why such colleges are Co-ed... Better would be to make morning session for girls & evening session for boys or vice-versa... That way atleast people won't be punished for speaking to members of opposite sex....
:38:

One of my colleague,he recently graduated from Satyambama college. The college is not like as it before...Now they are not that strict...

Originally Posted by Rameshjeee

One of my colleague,he recently graduated from Satyambama college. The college is not like as it before...Now they are not that strict...

And what was his personal experience after studying in that college ?
I mean any secret exchanges with the opposite sex and so on

hehhe......doc u wanna kno the naughty bits huh!

Yeah was thinking bout it...
The kind they used to show in older movies...exchanges between boys & girls hostel, bribing the watchman & other stuff..chupke chupke

THis is their narrow minded thinking!


i wish people should be more liberal and tolerant

I think if college students (esp boys) are told dont do certain thing they'll certainly do it. I wonder how this strange rule is going to help students.

thats_me, what's a lable?

-F

Originally Posted by farce

thats_me, what's a lable?

-F

corrected... lol... It wasnt me really, it was my keyboard