Thread: does slumdog deserve it??

i saw slumdog quite a few days back and was terribly upset.is this how we want to sell india??
a newspaper called it poverty-porn.
i think movies like these ae given accoladdes outside india only because the west agrees to 'this' picture of india.
at a time when a gem like TZP was not nominated, an ordianry movie, with lots of swearing and extremely disturbing view of india has bagged 10 noms.

does slumdog deserve it??

The movie was directed a Britisher.
So it would be wrong to say that we're responsible for this poverty-porn.

Having watched and analysed the movie, the movie is quite overrated.
There are some major loopholes in the plot.
A rediff review called it just another masala film & I agree with it to some extent.

As I read in today's TOI about Amitabh Bachhan saying that our bollywood industry caters to the desires & views of our audience; the same can be said about Hollywood.
So no big deal if TZP was not nominated.We liked & appreciated it & thats what really matters.

but the hysteria that slumdog has generated is immense.people i know are liking the movie just because its been nominated!!
i am still to hear an indian say that slumdog was not good..
wht apalls me is to see everybody running after a movie that shows how low we are!!

There's nothing wrong with liking a movie which shows how low we are.
What is shown is the truth & we need to accept it & strive to improve the conditions.

Slumdog...movie showed 1 part of India. Touch your heart & say that there's no slum in India,there's no poverty in India. They showed what exists in India. They didn't make up anything. If there was no slum in India,& after that had they made a movie like this then we can all argue...

Since the movie got so much appreciation / recognition across the world, you are all talking like this. Had this movie flopped, I am sure none would have known about this movie.

I watched this movie almost a month back...& I really like it. I would like to see it again & again.

At the end of the day, some may like the movie & some may not like the movie. Everybody has their own views. Its natural. All humans are not the same.

@ powerdoc, I am eagerly waiting to hear from you on the major loop holes in Slumdog. Please share it with us....

yes only one part of India was shown in the movie, showing both parts would not make sense in the film.

Yet we can not say it was wrong to show it as it is reality, and sometimes us Indians do not like facing reality which is why some people have not liked the film!

But soon there will be films based on the other parts and shades of India too!

Originally Posted by Rameshjeee

@ powerdoc, I am eagerly waiting to hear from you on the major loop holes in Slumdog. Please share it with us....

Well I shouldn't have written major...but the plot is just too good to be true.

You should read this review...

hxxp://www.rediff.com/movies/2009/jan/09review-slumdog-millionaire-sumit.htm

It describes it pretty well.
Not that I dodn't like this movie, just not worth of an Oscar nomination.

Originally Posted by powerdoc

You should read this review...

hxxp://www.rediff.com/movies/2009/jan/09review-slumdog-millionaire-sumit.htm

It describes it pretty well.
Not that I dodn't like this movie, just not worth of an Oscar nomination.

Its rediff's review...I am looking forward to your findings of loop holes...
Did you read the rediff's review first or saw the movie first?

I want to say one think clearly which is my view that really i don't no how good this movie is, but my view Hollywood touch(director) is help to promote it in Oscar.Just i can say one think that lots of wonderful Indian movie never get nomination in Oscar because they never feel Indian sentiment and after i saw few Hollywood movie(Oscar wining) i want to say clearly over the year they did some partiality with Indian actor,actress,director,lyricist,music composer and overall the Indian movie no doubt in that.Only Satyajit Roy awarded Oscar for his life time achievement at the last few days of his life where his few of the movie deserve Oscar lot before.
So i am not much happy or unhappy for this nomination.I never feel they are the ultimate judge of the movie.

I saw the movie 1 month back...

I read the review when it was posted a couple of weeks back.I had to agree with what the author said.Have you read it ?

The Samuel Colt revolver thing & the Benjamin Franklin thing just have no explanation.
Amitabh Bachhan signing the faeces-smeared boy's autograph...the riots...and some others...its a little too cliché.
Its exactly what you expect from a foreigner if he makes a film about India.
Thats also the reason it has generated this whole controversy...the whole poverty porn issue.

Originally Posted by powerdoc

I saw the movie 1 month back...

I read the review when it was posted a couple of weeks back.I had to agree with what the author said.Have you read it ?

The Samuel Colt revolver thing & the Benjamin Franklin thing just have no explanation.
Amitabh Bachhan signing the faeces-smeared boy's autograph...the riots...and some others...its a little too cliché.
Its exactly what you expect from a foreigner if he makes a film about India.
Thats also the reason it has generated this whole controversy...the whole poverty porn issue.

To be honest, i don't expect anything from a director of what kind of movie he should make.

I have seen the slums here in Chennai & in Mumbai....The movie portrays exactly the reality....This movie is so close to reality...that's the reason I liked it a lot & may be that's the reason..it got so many Oscar nominations.

Originally Posted by rupu1983

I want to say one think clearly which is my view that really i don't no how good this movie is, but my view Hollywood touch(director) is help to promote it in Oscar.Just i can say one think that lots .

The director is a British guy not hollywood.

-F

I saw so many Indian movie which very near to reality.Now we can find out any reason because this movie get the nomination already but the fact hollywood involvement help this movie to nominate it in Oscar. Thousands of good movie present in India(including regional language movie).If we look back the Indian movie history we will find out that easily but they hardly get a single nomination.Now problem is we are Indian always feel that American are best in every where if they judge one movie and reject another then obviously has some good valid reason but we all need to remember that we also have the brain above the eye so we can see & understand the reason behind of that decision and we all know director Danny Boyle is already famous director he has lot of reputation in Hollywood that help this movie for promotion in Hollywood definitely.

Originally Posted by farce

The director is a British guy not hollywood.

-F

are you joking mate ?
He is a Hollywood director definitely.I think you don't know that most of the Hollywood star not born in California.
Are you distinguish like that way
Salma Hayek Maxican actress not Hollywood
Nicole Kidman Australian actress not Hollywood
Kate Winslet British Actress not Hollywood
James Cameron Canadian director not Hollywood
Ivan Reitman Slovakian director not Hollywood

am i right now ?

i m yet to watch....shall watch n than comment by tw.....!

I haven't watched the movie yet, I got the downloaded one from my friend, hopefully I'll watch it today. will shower my comments afterwards

the thing i liked in the movie was THE TAJ MAHAL and it's gardens.....
it's been 8 years since i last visited it.!!

the only thingh i liked about the movie was that jamaal wins in the end.a typical oscar contender movie would have shown something different..

an india-centric movie releasing in india after months of us release!!
strange!

Originally Posted by powerdoc

The movie was directed a Britisher.
So it would be wrong to say that we're responsible for this poverty-porn.

Having watched and analysed the movie, the movie is quite overrated.
There are some major loopholes in the plot.
A rediff review called it just another masala film & I agree with it to some extent.

As I read in today's TOI about Amitabh Bachhan saying that our bollywood industry caters to the desires & views of our audience; the same can be said about Hollywood.
So no big deal if TZP was not nominated.We liked & appreciated it & thats what really matters.

Originally Posted by rupu1983

I want to say one think clearly which is my view that really i don't no how good this movie is, but my view Hollywood touch(director) is help to promote it in Oscar.Just i can say one think that lots of wonderful Indian movie never get nomination in Oscar because they never feel Indian sentiment and after i saw few Hollywood movie(Oscar wining) i want to say clearly over the year they did some partiality with Indian actor,actress,director,lyricist,music composer and overall the Indian movie no doubt in that.Only Satyajit Roy awarded Oscar for his life time achievement at the last few days of his life where his few of the movie deserve Oscar lot before.
So i am not much happy or unhappy for this nomination.I never feel they are the ultimate judge of the movie.

Originally Posted by farce

The director is a British guy not hollywood.

-F

Originally Posted by rupu1983

are you joking mate ?
He is a Hollywood director definitely.I think you don't know that most of the Hollywood star not born in California.
Are you distinguish like that way
Salma Hayek Maxican actress not Hollywood
Nicole Kidman Australian actress not Hollywood
Kate Winslet British Actress not Hollywood
James Cameron Canadian director not Hollywood
Ivan Reitman Slovakian director not Hollywood

am i right now ?

Many of us believe that Oscar awards are awards for World's best cinema. That is where we all get it wrong. The Academy Awards (aka Oscar Awards) are constituted by The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. It is an academy of mostly US filmmakers aka Hollywood. And they deal exclusively with English cinema. It is not a World body.

So their mainstream awards are given to nominees from the academy members. They have a special category for Best Foreign Film that includes films from the other countries. Since Slumdog Millionaire is made by Hollywood studio, it does not matter whether it has British Director, Indian Actors, Indian Music Director, etc. Who owns the movie rights and what primary language the movie is made in is important - as long as it Hollywood+English that is the sole criterion for being eligible for selection in the mainstream.

The whole Oscar show is totally lopsided. To get the film nominated, the contender has to get his movie publicized and shown to as many jury members as possible. The same applies post nomination for being a winner. It is just like a realty show on TV.

Pray, do not give too much importance whether a movie is nominated for Oscar or not. If it is, that is wonderful. If it isn't, it is not the end of the world and what matters more is whether we (audience) like it or not.

When we Indians make many films disgracing the truths of western society( Namaste London- Poorab Pashchim etc) than i think its not bad for such a film which actually showcases the truth faced by Indians, who are really very poor and who live in slums....

by naming the film as slumdog i think he wanted to tell people that there are millions in India, who have no house and live such drastic conditions, where sanitation and other adequate neccessities are not available in even in minimal amount...

people live in dark slums, in crazy environment..always in threat and deceased...

we Indians must understand that its not bad to be criticised...

when Satyajeet Ray made such films in which poverty was shown in the extremes, why not a man make a film on truths of India in today's world of modernization....

when millions amongst us, do not feel even a slightest of shame in PISSING ROADSIDES like dogs....i think atleast this slumdog is genuine...and he has the democratic rights of freedom of expression.....

Originally Posted by mail2sc

[I]by naming the film as slumdog i think he wanted to tell people that there are millions in India, who have no house and live such drastic conditions, where sanitation and other adequate neccessities are not available in even in minimal amount...

yes that is true that it highlights the problems many parts have.but doe it bring about a solution to it?? does it in anyway show that the boy studied hard worked hard and won the money??
NO.
he just got lucky.does it say that for a "slumdog" to succeed he has to be lucky?nothing else matters?
satyajit ray provided solutions to the problems hw showed.he showed how people live in difficult conditions and how they overcame it by hardwork and mettle!!

and those days were different.india was not as advanced as it is today.today there are so many good aspects of the country that can be focussd upon.wh not them??

the only answer is a twisted mind that feeds on the poverty and filth of india,and then plain forgets about it!!

And we piss on roads sides like dogs?is it advancement.and what are the solutions for it?and how much has India won on it?

Just 500 hundread years back these europeans got started with reneccanca( :lol: forgot the spelling ).and before that they were living as animals.burning witches and people for believes in ghosts.they lived semibarbaric.and now 500 years from those episodes.we have tons of garbage rolling down our streets.near our colonies.road sides.our livestock is wandering unmastered.our children don have interest in sports sitting at homes and watching porn on internet.this is the ugliest truth of our country.people don behave exactily like that of a super power.when our men see foreigner girls they get crazy like wolves.and foreigners keep such views for us.NO BAD.

I wish this film wins all the awards.and let our people think themselves how and what are they doing with their surrounds.the film is on a millionaire.but i think atleast it projects the darker sides of our country which must be brightened.let us be ashamed of our harsh truths.and work together on it.

I think the theme of the movie is love & destiny conquer all...so we shouldn't get too carried away with the slum aspect...

Originally Posted by powerdoc

I think the theme of the movie is love & destiny conquer all...so we shouldn't get too carried away with the slum aspect...

The boy,is muslim in the film and the girl is hindu.
a fact.

i finally saw the movie yest.....! i felt the movie showed some of the harsh bits of India....!!! the slum n how ppl ve survived n r surviving it....!!!

i really wonder if there is a solution to it????

Originally Posted by mail2sc

And we piss on roads sides like dogs?is it advancement.and what are the solutions for it?and how much has India won on it?

Just 500 hundread years back these europeans got started with reneccanca Renaissance
( :lol: forgot the spelling ).and before that they were living as animals.burning witches and people for believes in ghosts.they lived semibarbaric.and now 500 years from those episodes.we have tons of garbage rolling down our streets.near our colonies.road sides.our livestock is wandering unmastered.our children don have interest in sports sitting at homes and watching porn on internet.this is the ugliest truth of our country.people don behave exactily like that of a super power.when our men see foreigner girls they get crazy like wolves.and foreigners keep such views for us.NO BAD.

I wish this film wins all the awards.and let our people think themselves how and what are they doing with their surrounds.the film is on a millionaire.but i think atleast it projects the darker sides of our country which must be brightened.let us be ashamed of our harsh truths.and work together on it.

wht makes u think tht it would win all the awards....? i agree wid u tht the way the director has pertrayed the poor India .... we shud definately make an effort towards doing whteva bit one can do!!!!

apart from tht there wasnt much gr8......sum of the things tht were asked to jamaal malik on the game show was jus mere co0incidence or rather say luck....!!!! this is wht i feel......!!!!

it was a diff movie for sure.....n the songs definately desrve to b awarded...