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    21st February--International Mother Language Day

    The day which always be remember for the martyr and probably the only day in the world where people give their life only for mother language.

    The history of that day
    Independent Pakistan has declared Urdu as the mother language for both East Pakistan(now Bangladesh) & West Pakistan in 1948 obviously west Pakistan(Bangladesh) never accepted it and start to protest on this.In 1952 Dhaka University ,Dhaka Medical & engineering college teacher & student have created a schedule on 21st February to celebrate that day as "State Language Day" because it was the budget session day of Pakistan and also they have the rally & meeting program in demand of Bangla as a language of entire 'west Pakistan' but in the 20th February Pak govt declare section 144 obviously people never accept such barrier and join the rally but that time Pakistani police commander order to fire on the student several student died and lots of student was getting injured by this brutal attack.After this incident entire east pakistan(Bangladeshi) people started the agitation.
    Then it is a long battle of east Pakistan to became Bangladesh and finally they are free in 1971 and Bangla gets the national language status in their country.

    In the honor of the martyr, 21st February declared as International Mother Language day in the entire world by UNESCO

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    thanks a lot rupu for this information. that was something i didnt knew at all ...

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    Hmm even me too didnt knew of it. Thanks

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    wow.....i neva knew about this....thnks rupu...

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    Happy International Mother Language Day!!!!!


    I knew about this early, because I had to look upon this news when it came in the newspaper...

    With 196 of its languages listed as endangered, India tops the Unesco’s list of countries having the maximum number of dialects on the verge of extinction.

    India is closely followed by the U.S. which stands to lose 192 languages and Indonesia, where 147 are in peril.

    These facts were revealed in the latest Atlas of World’s Languages in Danger of Disappearing unveiled by the Unesco. — PTI

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    quite interesting.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by aashaka_gandhi View Post
    quite interesting.....


    Interesting????

    Its really sad for me...

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    i was talking about the post ......was damn interesting to kno.....the facts

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    Yes this day is one side a sad day in history but still in other side we feel proud that some Bangali at least archive their own right and also they established the importance of mother language in world arena.

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    Too all bengalis around the world and to those from erstwhile East Pakisthan in particular, this day would forever be the day the weak bengali broke their shakles and started the fight for their language and identitity. "Bhasha Andolan" as it susequently became known as, went on to become the fight for independence and ultimately brought about Bangladesh, spearheaded by Mujibar Rahman and greatly aided by Indira Gandhi.
    From the Indian point of view, the support for the Bhasha Andolan led to the 1971 Indo-Pak war which overwhelmingly proved the supremacy of the Indian Military might in open confrontation.
    From the Pakisthan point of view, this was perhaps the single biggest political and military defeat ever and changed their approach to India permanently. These events also possiblely laid the foundation of State sponsored terrorism as the job of taking care of India was shifted from Pakisthani Military to the ISI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panchabhut View Post
    this day would forever be the day the weak bengali broke their shakles and started the fight for their language and identitity.
    Alright mate but slightly differ with you in one point that I never feel Bengalis are weak in any time if you look the modern history then you can understand that when ever nation gets into trouble Bengalis did the protest at the right time. If I started at 1757 then the famous battle had been fought between Bengal Nawab Siraj-ud-Daulah and British East India Company which is famous as battle of Plassey after this battle East India company capture total India and so called after this war British rule started in all over India and again in april 1857 movement the first agitation started after Mangal Pandey’s death from Barrackpur,WB.
    Then in the beginning of 19th century the famous Ananda Math had been wrote by Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay although that was banned by Biritish Govt but still few bengali writers never stop to write such novel and the famous song of ananda Math "Vandemataram" which was the code song for all freedom fighter in India.
    If we consider the era of freedom fight lots of Bengali freedom fighter like Khudiram Bose (the youngest Indian who hang by the British Govt. at that period),not only that Binoy Basu,Badal Gupta ,Dinesh Guptadid the famous battle of writers building not only that Jatindranath Mukherjee, Surya Sen,Pritilata Waddedar, Jatin Das(64 days hunger strike until death) and many more they all are martyr.
    Finally we all know the famous congress leader SN Banerjee & congress & forward block leader Netaji Subhash C Bose & sri Aurobindo inspire entire India from their fearless strong heart.
    Even in recent era one Indian cricketer did the fight with brave & strong heart and repeatedly proved his ability against all the conspiracy.
    So 1952 incident is not the first from that bengalis did protest.But unfortunately still lots of person recognize Bengalis as weak heart although history tells something different.

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    Thats some information.... Thanks all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rupu1983 View Post
    Alright mate but slightly differ with you in one point that I never feel Bengalis are weak in any time if you look the modern history then you can understand that when ever nation gets into trouble Bengalis did the protest at the right time. If I started at 1757 then the famous battle had been fought between Bengal Nawab Siraj-ud-Daulah and British East India Company which is famous as battle of Plassey after this battle East India company capture total India and so called after this war British rule started in all over India and again in april 1857 movement the first agitation started after Mangal Pandey’s death from Barrackpur,WB.
    Then in the beginning of 19th century the famous Ananda Math had been wrote by Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay although that was banned by Biritish Govt but still few bengali writers never stop to write such novel and the famous song of ananda Math "Vandemataram" which was the code song for all freedom fighter in India.
    If we consider the era of freedom fight lots of Bengali freedom fighter like Khudiram Bose (the youngest Indian who hang by the British Govt. at that period),not only that Binoy Basu,Badal Gupta ,Dinesh Guptadid the famous battle of writers building not only that Jatindranath Mukherjee, Surya Sen,Pritilata Waddedar, Jatin Das(64 days hunger strike until death) and many more they all are martyr.
    Finally we all know the famous congress leader SN Banerjee & congress & forward block leader Netaji Subhash C Bose & sri Aurobindo inspire entire India from their fearless strong heart.
    Even in recent era one Indian cricketer did the fight with brave & strong heart and repeatedly proved his ability against all the conspiracy.
    So 1952 incident is not the first from that bengalis did protest.But unfortunately still lots of person recognize Bengalis as weak heart although history tells something different.
    Bengalis have always been known for their brains than their muscles. There has never been a Prithviraj Chauhan or a Guru Gobind Singh or a Rajendra Chola or a Shivaji in the history of Bengal. Anandamath was a idealist novel but the real Bengal could never attain that idealistic utopia. British Govt. always recognised Bengalis as the "least Martial Race".

    The bengalis were never known to be winners in open battle. Being blessed with brains, the bengalis have been very successful in wedging gerilla warfare (Bagha Jatin, Barin Ghosh, Surya Sen, Khudiram, Binoy-Badal-Dinesh & others) and non-violent struggle (Jatin Das, Chittoranjan & others). Aurobindo Ghosh left the freedom movement to seek spiritual destiny at the moment he was needed most. Siraj-ud-dullah was a mughal. Mandal Pandey, as his name suggests, was also not a bengali.

    The only exception was Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose, who proved that given adequate provocation, even a "least Martial" bengali can take on the might of the British Empire in open battle.

    Against this back-drop, the orders of the then East Pakisthan making Urdu as the compulsory language for the Bengalis was the next big provocation that forced the "least martial" bengalis to take up arms and take on the might of the Pakisthani Army or "Khan Sena" as they were better known as (Of course with some help from the Indian Army)

    I believe u are a bengali too. But must have been born well after 1971. However, the two generations previous to yours had actually lived through it. U might find many startling information from many of them.
    Last edited by panchabhut; 02-21-09 at 11:14 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhaneshv View Post

    With 196 of its languages listed as endangered, India tops the Unesco’s list of countries having the maximum number of dialects on the verge of extinction.

    India is closely followed by the U.S. which stands to lose 192 languages and Indonesia, where 147 are in peril.

    These facts were revealed in the latest Atlas of World’s Languages in Danger of Disappearing unveiled by the Unesco. — PTI



    I knew about this early, because I had to look upon this news when it came in the newspaper...
    Yes, and English is one of languages becoming
    extinct in India. Soon to be replaced by SMSlish

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    Quote Originally Posted by farce View Post
    Yes, and English is one of languages becoming
    extinct in India. Soon to be replaced by SMSlish

    -F
    JFK (just4kix) may have a different view on that......

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    I just differ with you in word of 'weak' bengali because may be weak mean it physically or mentally both way I still believe bengalis never weak in mentally obviously bengalis not the very good warrior or warmonger but they know that when & how to protest.
    1st I never mention that Mangal Pandey was bengali (please read it clearly)
    2nd accept Guru Govind Singh all the example you have given that was from the middle age where i have already mention about modern history(1700-2000).Now i don't want to enter in middle age history.

    3nd Siraj-ud-dullah was not the Mughal in any way he was the grandson of Murshid kuli Khan. He born in South Indian Brahmin family in his childhood one person name Gazi-Safi Impahani brought Murshid kuli and converted his name to Mohammad Hadi then after a long story Mughal king Aurangzeb appointed him as 'Dewan' of Murshidabad,Bengal and he gave his name as Murshidkuli Khan and Murshid's youngest daughter Amina Begam(Siraj-ud-dullah's mother) and Siraj-ud-dullah born in bengal that why according to history both consider also as bengali.
    4th i never believe that gerilla warfare is the symbol of weakness .In era of freedom fight Sikhs,Marathi all did the gerilla warfare.
    5th Netaji has created 'Azad hindi phauz' and that time lots bengali's had waited when this force will attack in eastern part of the bengal from Kohima then they will join on it unfortunately that could not happen.
    Finally really human life's are too short and one single life has very short diameter also may be that's why for present news we have to read newspaper or any other thing and for past may be we have to depend on book.
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    Just for the record, Netaji did not "create" the INA.
    Azad Hind Fauj (INA) was formed by Rash Bihari Bose in Japan (under the umbrella of Indian Independence League) and its command was subsequently handed over the Subhas Chandra Bose at Bankok when he reached there from Germany in a submrine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panchabhut View Post
    Just for the record, Netaji did not "create" the INA.
    Azad Hind Fauj (INA) was formed by Rash Bihari Bose in Japan (under the umbrella of Indian Independence League) and its command was subsequently handed over the Subhas Chandra Bose at Bankok when he reached there from Germany in a submrine.
    Anyway i know that, and what you say the early name was Indian Independence League and in 4th July 1943 Rash Bihari Bose give the responsibility to Netaji and 25th august in same year Netaji took the responsibility.If you consider the name than it obviously it gives by Rash Bihari Bose but the main troop added by Netaji from Indian prisoner in Germany both merged in august 1943 so practically we all know who is main creator of Azad Hind Fauj.
    I think we are going off topic now i just try to say 1952 "Bhasha andolon" not the new or unique from the Bengali it's a just follow up of the traditional Bengali's protesting attitude what they did at least over the last 200 years.

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    tht was some history......... this much toh we didnt learn in history also.......lol!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aashaka_gandhi View Post
    tht was some history......... this much toh we didnt learn in history also.......lol!!!!
    actually in this thread we have discuss one historical incident and from that point we have diverted little with other side of history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rupu1983 View Post
    actually in this thread we have discuss one historical incident and from that point we have diverted little with other side of history.
    History is a continuous process. What is present today would become history tomorrow. Every moment in time is linked to the timeline that has led to it. So all single major event in history also has its roots in several other events in the historical scheme of things.

    Of course, 21st February was a major watershed event in the history of Bengal and Bengalis.

    As someone once said - never try to create history, because you can not. Just do what you can do best and let history decide for itself.

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    hmmmm gyan distribution.....cool!!!!

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    Please stop this pointless fights - it does not become us. Why are we classifying as Bengali or a Sikh or a Jat or Rajput or Maratha. We are all Indians here.

    (p/s. By the way, it is guerilla warfare and not gerilla warfare.)

    Now the moot point. What makes a warrior race vs. an intellectual race vs. traders. It is all based on the Geography.

    India is locked on 3 sides by sea, mountains and dense forests. The only natural land access to India has been from the north west. Consequently, all major attacks have come from that region. It is quite natural then that the people in that region had to be constantly on alert and take to fight at the drop of the hat. That is why, the people of Punjab and Rajasthan have more warriers amongst them.

    The British, the French and the Dutch were strong sea farers. No kingdom in those days had a Navy and this proved decisive in the battle of dominion. The Mughal Emporer Jehangir allowed the East India company to set up trading posts in Bessein (Vasai), Calcutta and Madras. The British grew up in Calcutta because it was relatively far off from the power centers. The defeat of Siraj Ud Daulla in the Battle of Plassey (1757) helped the British establish some sort of authority in the region.

    The British did not consider the Bengalis as weak. They considered them intellectual and non-interfering. Bengal was least concerned in what happened at Delhi and Peninsular India. They started recruiting Bengalis in their service for clerical jobs.

    But it was the Third Battle of Panipat (1761) that helped the British. Marathas under the Peshwas were all supreme then. The Mughal ruler was a puppet at that time. The defeat at Panipat ruined the Maratha power and afterwards the Maratha kingdom broke down further as Bhosales of Nagpur, Scindias of Gwalior, Holkars of Indore, Gaekwads of Bardoa, etc. The Peshwas fought internally to rule. Tipu Sultan was the lone power left.

    The British defeated Tipu Sultan and then formed alliances or no-agression pact with Maratha sardars and then annexed the Peshwa kingdom thus finally overcoming the last hurdle and conquering India.

    The history of India is full of brave people. Let no one fight on saying that this group was the bravest.

    Mahatma Gandhi fought with non-violence. Would anyone dare claim that he was not brave? Or does the Gujarati Community can say that he was a Gujarati? Right from the days of Chandragupta Maurya till today, brave people have come from all places of the country. All these brave people are Indians first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by just4kix View Post
    Please stop this pointless fights - it does not become us. Why are we classifying as Bengali or a Sikh or a Jat or Rajput or Maratha. We are all Indians here.

    (p/s. By the way, it is guerilla warfare and not gerilla warfare.)

    Now the moot point. What makes a warrior race vs. an intellectual race vs. traders. It is all based on the Geography.

    India is locked on 3 sides by sea, mountains and dense forests. The only natural land access to India has been from the north west. Consequently, all major attacks have come from that region. It is quite natural then that the people in that region had to be constantly on alert and take to fight at the drop of the hat. That is why, the people of Punjab and Rajasthan have more warriers amongst them.

    The British, the French and the Dutch were strong sea farers. No kingdom in those days had a Navy and this proved decisive in the battle of dominion. The Mughal Emporer Jehangir allowed the East India company to set up trading posts in Bessein (Vasai), Calcutta and Madras. The British grew up in Calcutta because it was relatively far off from the power centers. The defeat of Siraj Ud Daulla in the Battle of Plassey (1757) helped the British establish some sort of authority in the region.

    The British did not consider the Bengalis as weak. They considered them intellectual and non-interfering. Bengal was least concerned in what happened at Delhi and Peninsular India. They started recruiting Bengalis in their service for clerical jobs.

    But it was the Third Battle of Panipat (1761) that helped the British. Marathas under the Peshwas were all supreme then. The Mughal ruler was a puppet at that time. The defeat at Panipat ruined the Maratha power and afterwards the Maratha kingdom broke down further as Bhosales of Nagpur, Scindias of Gwalior, Holkars of Indore, Gaekwads of Bardoa, etc. The Peshwas fought internally to rule. Tipu Sultan was the lone power left.

    The British defeated Tipu Sultan and then formed alliances or no-agression pact with Maratha sardars and then annexed the Peshwa kingdom thus finally overcoming the last hurdle and conquering India.

    The history of India is full of brave people. Let no one fight on saying that this group was the bravest.

    Mahatma Gandhi fought with non-violence. Would anyone dare claim that he was not brave? Or does the Gujarati Community can say that he was a Gujarati? Right from the days of Chandragupta Maurya till today, brave people have come from all places of the country. All these brave people are Indians first.
    well said.....:14::clap:

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    Please don't think it other way , I am not trying to distinguish between the community I know our main identity is we are the Indian.Some people would have think in my last few post (where I only highlighted the history with Bengali related) I am trying to prove Bengalis are the superior over the other community but that's not the fact i just defend in one point that Bengalis are not weak and for that reason i have given such example in those post.
    For me Netaji or Gandhiji both are equal respectable also i feel proud for both them and obviously both are Indian first before any other identity.

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