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Old 06-19-09, 06:19 PM   #21
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j4k is political...
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Old 06-19-09, 06:23 PM   #22
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well it doesn't matter u support it or not.....its like u need/use it at some point of time. I really don't care if MS or some biggy get affected by my using pirated stuff. i mean these ppl suck money all the time, whcih ultimately comes from my/ur pocket. so i won't mind paying back my tribute to them in terms of piracy. honesty is some thing......i never seen a least honest corporate, with whom i dealt till date. many of the times they try to make fool out of u just for profits.

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Same goes for software too. It is easy for MS to sell Windows for $50 retail and still make money. They sell that to OEMs at that price anyway. So why are retail customers penalized?
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i think its not like supporting or not supporting piracy...

i think studios themselves are pirates when they make remixes etc..or launching puppet artists for their fake music/films..

in India the piracy and entertainment rules are stronger yet we dont know how much realy going into the pockets of real artists, and yes it takes a big name to earn more here...


i was watching mtv select once, and Nikhil chinappa(the anchor) bashed a person who called the programme for telling "he uses fake cds" and indeed Nikhil ragged him saying, "using fake cds are just like using drugs"

i have a serious question for these big cos. eg. why did they make a pc, a dvd writer, a mp3 codec?? its all money, and whateva these dudes get in for they do, the rest are pitty piracy modules...I DONT READ THEM AT ALL..
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Nice debate here. I like that.

But just three or four members are putting points forward.

Come on guys. Stop sifting through the tit-bits in "Yard".
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Old 06-19-09, 08:41 PM   #25
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Intellectual rights should be preserved. It is like someone wrote a song and another one claims the right. But the problem is, marketing is not customer oriented. They do not consider Indian customer's need/sentiment. Most of the global brands focus on US and European markets. The price is termed for them and so is the customer care. They do not care about after sales in India and cannot sell products here cheaply to cope with smuggling.

For them we are just extra revenue.
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I am a person among those, who prefer the taste of food they buy from a restaurant/hotel over stolen food. But, I prefer home-made/free food over the paid food.

But, when they steal the food items and sell it, I prefer "taking it" from them, than spending my bucks on it, because what I do can't be called stealing. But, if the "Waiter" demands an unreasonable tip, I would just eat it and leave, or get to my nearest "Temple/Dharmasala/Any of such organisations or groups" and eat the free food from there, and take some with me, for my relatives and friends.

But if you can cook it yourself, it's a really good thing you can do, and it will be the best thing you can do, if you share your food with others.

I also really appreciate those who give others the recipe, while serving their food item(s).

I hope that I have conveyed my policy/opinion about the topic clearly.
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i think piracy is a company strategy term..
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its a bad experience for you and a lesson for us...

The same happend to me last year, i told a friend of mine(who was onsite) to buy a Sony cam from USA($540/- if i remember correctly)
later on i found that there were some voltage irrelevance, so i went to Sony ppl here in Haldwani Uttarakhand.. they told me to leave this to them, so they can send it to someone called Sony repair centre. i disqualified his suggestion. than i went to Boston for the evil and there i shown those guys what alteration was required, they did it,.yet charged me $70/- for this f***. since my 540 american bucks were on hold, i had to take this step...
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you went to Boston from Uttrakhand just to get the cam repaired
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ask Aaka and j4k why i went boston..
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I think J4k you are sort of mixing up two different issues because
you are upset, I understand it. The issue of the shops not helping you
is one of 'customer support'. You and your friend should write to the
higher ups of those shops and try to rectify their lousy attitudes.

I am sure if you had complained to the regional office or corporate office
of those two companies things would improve in the customer service.

Sometimes it is OK to go to that non-company store like your friend
when the company doesn't do what you need,
But I still am in the camp of anti-piracy.

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hey we are joking and you took it serious...

hell to piracy....
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When I paid 20 bucks to unlock my phone, that is also piracy.
well, that is sort of debatable ;-). If you don't have a clause in your
contract explicitly prohibiting unlocking the phone then I don't think
it is piracy. Of course if it is in the contract and you are in the
contract period then I agree with you.

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hey we are joking and you took it serious...

hell to piracy....
were you talking to me?

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I am a person among those, who prefer the taste of food they buy from a restaurant/hotel over stolen food. But, I prefer home-made/free food over the paid food.

So you create your own music and make your own movies? ;-)

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well, that is sort of debatable ;-). If you don't have a clause in your
contract explicitly prohibiting unlocking the phone then I don't think
it is piracy. Of course if it is in the contract and you are in the
contract period then I agree with you.
All anti piracy statements are one sided, but as said law is law and we have to respect em"

[/QUOTE]were you talking to me?



So you create your own music and make your own movies? ;-)[/QUOTE]

yes talking to you...

yes one can create his own music and movie like anti pirates Anu malik and Chakravorty do...
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I am a person among those, who prefer the taste of food they buy from a restaurant/hotel over stolen food. But, I prefer home-made/free food over the paid food.

But, when they steal the food items and sell it, I prefer "taking it" from them, than spending my bucks on it, because what I do can't be called stealing. But, if the "Waiter" demands an unreasonable tip, I would just eat it and leave, or get to my nearest "Temple/Dharmasala/Any of such organisations or groups" and eat the free food from there, and take some with me, for my relatives and friends.

But if you can cook it yourself, it's a really good thing you can do, and it will be the best thing you can do, if you share your food with others.

I also really appreciate those who give others the recipe, while serving their food item(s).

I hope that I have conveyed my policy/opinion about the topic clearly.
Opensource policy eh


I like to think of piracy as a counter-weight. In the absence of pirates, most of the businesses would tend to go monopolistic !

and without pirated stuff 3/4th of indians would have had nothing more than office n windows on their PC's for all these years.
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Opensource policy eh


I like to think of piracy as a counter-weight. In the absence of pirates, most of the businesses would tend to go monopolistic !

and without pirated stuff 3/4th of indians would have had nothing more than office n windows on their PC's for all these years.
Instead of pirating why don't the Indians create all these fancy
software, music and movies themselves?

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Instead of pirating why don't the Indians create all these fancy
software, music and movies themselves?

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talking about open source or paid or both ?
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talking about open source or paid or both ?
both

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thats coz there isn't proper organisation among indians. We particpipate at global level as far as s/w is concerned, but we don't form enough communities amongst ourselves.

As far as music n movies are concerned, obviously they cannot do it for free.
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thats coz there isn't proper organisation among indians. We particpipate at global level as far as s/w is concerned, but we don't form enough communities amongst ourselves.
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So get organized, get creative, get out of the entitelement mindset
and contribute to others.


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So get organized, get creative, get out of the entitelement mindset
and contribute to others.


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Did u ever see me supporting anti-piracy ?
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