Thread: Big companies have no right to cry about piracy

I am a person among those, who prefer the taste of food they buy from a restaurant/hotel over stolen food. But, I prefer home-made/free food over the paid food.

But, when they steal the food items and sell it, I prefer "taking it" from them, than spending my bucks on it, because what I do can't be called stealing. But, if the "Waiter" demands an unreasonable tip, I would just eat it and leave, or get to my nearest "Temple/Dharmasala/Any of such organisations or groups" and eat the free food from there, and take some with me, for my relatives and friends.

But if you can cook it yourself, it's a really good thing you can do, and it will be the best thing you can do, if you share your food with others.

I also really appreciate those who give others the recipe, while serving their food item(s).

I hope that I have conveyed my policy/opinion about the topic clearly.

i think piracy is a company strategy term..

Originally Posted by mail2sc

its a bad experience for you and a lesson for us...

The same happend to me last year, i told a friend of mine(who was onsite) to buy a Sony cam from USA($540/- if i remember correctly)
later on i found that there were some voltage irrelevance, so i went to Sony ppl here in Haldwani Uttarakhand.. they told me to leave this to them, so they can send it to someone called Sony repair centre. i disqualified his suggestion. than i went to Boston for the evil and there i shown those guys what alteration was required, they did it,.yet charged me $70/- for this f***. since my 540 american bucks were on hold, i had to take this step... :sad:

wow hmy:
you went to Boston from Uttrakhand just to get the cam repaired :scared:

^^ :lol:

ask Aaka and j4k why i went boston..

I think J4k you are sort of mixing up two different issues because
you are upset, I understand it. The issue of the shops not helping you
is one of 'customer support'. You and your friend should write to the
higher ups of those shops and try to rectify their lousy attitudes.

I am sure if you had complained to the regional office or corporate office
of those two companies things would improve in the customer service.

Sometimes it is OK to go to that non-company store like your friend
when the company doesn't do what you need,
But I still am in the camp of anti-piracy.

hey we are joking and you took it serious...

hell to piracy.... :lol:

Originally Posted by just4kix

When I paid 20 bucks to unlock my phone, that is also piracy.

well, that is sort of debatable ;-). If you don't have a clause in your
contract explicitly prohibiting unlocking the phone then I don't think
it is piracy. Of course if it is in the contract and you are in the
contract period then I agree with you.

Originally Posted by mail2sc

hey we are joking and you took it serious...

hell to piracy.... :lol:

were you talking to me?

Originally Posted by dhaneshv

I am a person among those, who prefer the taste of food they buy from a restaurant/hotel over stolen food. But, I prefer home-made/free food over the paid food.

So you create your own music and make your own movies? ;-)

Originally Posted by masaladosa

well, that is sort of debatable ;-). If you don't have a clause in your
contract explicitly prohibiting unlocking the phone then I don't think
it is piracy. Of course if it is in the contract and you are in the
contract period then I agree with you.

All anti piracy statements are one sided, but as said law is law and we have to respect em"

[/QUOTE]were you talking to me?



So you create your own music and make your own movies? ;-)[/QUOTE]

yes talking to you...

yes one can create his own music and movie like anti pirates Anu malik and Chakravorty do...

Originally Posted by dhaneshv

I am a person among those, who prefer the taste of food they buy from a restaurant/hotel over stolen food. But, I prefer home-made/free food over the paid food.

But, when they steal the food items and sell it, I prefer "taking it" from them, than spending my bucks on it, because what I do can't be called stealing. But, if the "Waiter" demands an unreasonable tip, I would just eat it and leave, or get to my nearest "Temple/Dharmasala/Any of such organisations or groups" and eat the free food from there, and take some with me, for my relatives and friends.

But if you can cook it yourself, it's a really good thing you can do, and it will be the best thing you can do, if you share your food with others.

I also really appreciate those who give others the recipe, while serving their food item(s).

I hope that I have conveyed my policy/opinion about the topic clearly.

Opensource policy eh


I like to think of piracy as a counter-weight. In the absence of pirates, most of the businesses would tend to go monopolistic !

and without pirated stuff 3/4th of indians would have had nothing more than office n windows on their PC's for all these years.

Originally Posted by newprouser

Opensource policy eh


I like to think of piracy as a counter-weight. In the absence of pirates, most of the businesses would tend to go monopolistic !

and without pirated stuff 3/4th of indians would have had nothing more than office n windows on their PC's for all these years.

Instead of pirating why don't the Indians create all these fancy
software, music and movies themselves?

md

Originally Posted by masaladosa

Instead of pirating why don't the Indians create all these fancy
software, music and movies themselves?

md

talking about open source or paid or both ?

Originally Posted by newprouser

talking about open source or paid or both ?

both

md

thats coz there isn't proper organisation among indians. We particpipate at global level as far as s/w is concerned, but we don't form enough communities amongst ourselves.

As far as music n movies are concerned, obviously they cannot do it for free.

Originally Posted by newprouser

thats coz there isn't proper organisation among indians. We particpipate at global level as far as s/w is concerned, but we don't form enough communities amongst ourselves.
.

So get organized, get creative, get out of the entitelement mindset
and contribute to others.


md

Originally Posted by masaladosa

So get organized, get creative, get out of the entitelement mindset
and contribute to others.


md

Did u ever see me supporting anti-piracy ?

I wasn't directly asking you to get organized etc. ;-)

I meant all Indians in general

md

Originally Posted by newprouser

Did u ever see me supporting anti-piracy ?

actually you should be supporting anti-piracy

md

Originally Posted by masaladosa

I wasn't directly asking you to get organized etc. ;-)

I meant all Indians in general

md



actually you should be supporting anti-piracy

md

I understand what you say , but I still maintain my stance on this...

I have a comparison on this issue. When US campaigned for opening markets, there was some people who thought it is good as we should compete with global standards, our own standard will rise. Now the same US is campaigning for closed market for their jobs. They want their jobs to remain with their citizens. If we follow corporate agenda, we need to change our policy day by day.

At this point of time Indian market cannot exist without piracy. Nobody will learn Maya, AutoCAD and 3D Max if it were taught by institutes who use genuine software and practiced by students who are rich enough to buy a copy for practice at home. I strongly believe in intellectual property rights but the fact is, it is not practical at this point of time in our economy/system. It will have serious impact on our upcoming status as a software power.

It is the warranty and servicing problems why many people dont take chances with buying expensive stuff from abroad. Even if the same product is available at a very low cost abroad, many people dont prefer to buy one. I have been planning to buy anothr laptop for quite some time now. One of my friends went onsite couple of months ago. I thought about asking him to buy a laptop for me from there. He bought one for himself when he went onsite last time. But, this warranty factor is the major worry. After reading j4k's experience I am sure I wont buy it from abroad.

I am not advocating piracy, but my views are a bit different when it comes to buying/using everything original(softwares). I dont say it directly but I have hinted it a few times before in some threads related to branded PCs & laptops. I think buying a laptop/Branded PC with a compulsion of buying a bundled OS with it is complete wastage of money. Most high configuration Laptops/PCs of almost all brands come with a compulsary bundled OS and obviously - The cost associated with it. Someone argued that, companies do this to reduce piracy. Bullshit! They do it just to earn free bucks. There are two reasons why I dont prefer buying PC/Laptop with bundled OS:

- Suppose you have an original OS with you. Why would you buy an OS everytime you buy a PC/Laptop.

- If you format such a Laptop with pre-installed OS in it, there is no way you can reinstall it. You will have to get it installed from them and pay them for that. If you install any other OS (original or pirated) yourself, the company will consider the warranty void in case of any hardware troubles also.

These big companies really dont have any right to talk about the anti-piracy stuff. They just suck money out of customer's pockets in the name of anti-piracy.

I would prefer to donate a few dollars on the website of some good freeware rather than buying a shareware.

J4k, The experience you shared is a true eye-opener. This is really very annoying that such universal companies refuse to service products bought from another country.

Buying original movie DVDs is not a bad idea. Many people like to buy only original DVDs. They make up a well manageable and good collection. Same applies to Music collections.

Originally Posted by saurav_k

- If you format such a Laptop with pre-installed OS in it, there is no way you can reinstall it. You will have to get it installed from them and pay them for that. If you install any other OS (original or pirated) yourself, the company will consider the warranty void in case of any hardware troubles also.

U can always use the inbuilt recovery software / DVD's to restore data. Every manufacturer provides these !

Originally Posted by saurav_k

These big companies really dont have any right to talk about the anti-piracy stuff. They just suck money out of customer's pockets in the name of anti-piracy.

If i remember correctly, apple Iphone 3 costed double of its cost in US, @ 40K

Originally Posted by newprouser

U can always use the inbuilt recovery software / DVD's to restore data. Every manufacturer provides these !

Arrey I know that. But, what if you like to change the pre installed OS within the warranty period? Warranty will be considered void.

If i remember correctly, apple Iphone 3 costed double of its cost in US, @ 40K

Originally Posted by saurav_k

Arrey I know that. But, what if you like to change the pre installed OS within the warranty period? Warranty will be considered void.

reinstall it become claiming warrenty !

So, you always prefer buying PC/Laptop with bundled OS?

piracy of CDs shall be stopped.

Originally Posted by saurav_k

So, you always prefer buying PC/Laptop with bundled OS?

I never go for branded ones

Originally Posted by mail2sc

piracy of CDs shall be stopped.