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masaladosa

I wasn't directly asking you to get organized etc. ;-)

I meant all Indians in general

md

actually you should be supporting anti-piracy

md

newprouser

I understand what you say , but I still maintain my stance on this...

meetdilip

I have a comparison on this issue. When US campaigned for opening markets, there was some people who thought it is good as we should compete with global standards, our own standard will rise. Now the same US is campaigning for closed market for their jobs. They want their jobs to remain with their citizens. If we follow corporate agenda, we need to change our policy day by day.

At this point of time Indian market cannot exist without piracy. Nobody will learn Maya, AutoCAD and 3D Max if it were taught by institutes who use genuine software and practiced by students who are rich enough to buy a copy for practice at home. I strongly believe in intellectual property rights but the fact is, it is not practical at this point of time in our economy/system. It will have serious impact on our upcoming status as a software power.

saurav_k

It is the warranty and servicing problems why many people dont take chances with buying expensive stuff from abroad. Even if the same product is available at a very low cost abroad, many people dont prefer to buy one. I have been planning to buy anothr laptop for quite some time now. One of my friends went onsite couple of months ago. I thought about asking him to buy a laptop for me from there. He bought one for himself when he went onsite last time. But, this warranty factor is the major worry. After reading j4k's experience I am sure I wont buy it from abroad.

I am not advocating piracy, but my views are a bit different when it comes to buying/using everything original(softwares). I dont say it directly but I have hinted it a few times before in some threads related to branded PCs & laptops. I think buying a laptop/Branded PC with a compulsion of buying a bundled OS with it is complete wastage of money. Most high configuration Laptops/PCs of almost all brands come with a compulsary bundled OS and obviously - The cost associated with it. Someone argued that, companies do this to reduce piracy. Bullshit! They do it just to earn free bucks. There are two reasons why I dont prefer buying PC/Laptop with bundled OS:

- Suppose you have an original OS with you. Why would you buy an OS everytime you buy a PC/Laptop.

- If you format such a Laptop with pre-installed OS in it, there is no way you can reinstall it. You will have to get it installed from them and pay them for that. If you install any other OS (original or pirated) yourself, the company will consider the warranty void in case of any hardware troubles also.

These big companies really dont have any right to talk about the anti-piracy stuff. They just suck money out of customer's pockets in the name of anti-piracy.

I would prefer to donate a few dollars on the website of some good freeware rather than buying a shareware.

J4k, The experience you shared is a true eye-opener. This is really very annoying that such universal companies refuse to service products bought from another country.

Buying original movie DVDs is not a bad idea. Many people like to buy only original DVDs. They make up a well manageable and good collection. Same applies to Music collections.

newprouser

U can always use the inbuilt recovery software / DVD's to restore data. Every manufacturer provides these !

If i remember correctly, apple Iphone 3 costed double of its cost in US, @ 40K

saurav_k

Arrey I know that. But, what if you like to change the pre installed OS within the warranty period? Warranty will be considered void.

newprouser

reinstall it become claiming warrenty !

saurav_k

So, you always prefer buying PC/Laptop with bundled OS?

mickey

piracy of CDs shall be stopped.

newprouser

I never go for branded ones

masaladosa

That's right I think CDs will become obsolete soon and things will
just be distributed online in the future.

md

just4kix

I was upset with my own experience. The other guy is not my friend. It is a true story I read.

Anyway, the things is, you can write to higher authorities, and maybe it will take the desired effect. But that takes time. That guy in my story was unable to use his PSP, willing to pay for service but was denied the service. I am fully in support now that he is pirating. Hurt the guys where it hurts most - their pocket.

My entire HT was purchased abroad - so were my most gadgets. The stuff I wanted was not available in India then (90% of the time) or was insanely expensive.

On the contrary, I prefer paying for shareware. Some of these companies are bringing in stuff that is promoting making life easier and simpler for us.

You do mean ordinary windows on the walls, don't you?

The retail cost of the device was £449.99. Under the one year contract, it was at a reduced price. The contract said that I must be with them for at least 12 months. That I abided. But they said that the device is sold by them for use on their network only (even after the contract period). As per their interpretation, breaking their protection is piracy.

In a recent case, the US court gave the decision that customers cannot break CSS & Macrovision protection on DVDs even for personal backup.

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newprouser

IT really depends on your luck !

http://www.indiabroadband.net/relian....html#post7132 (Reliance 'Where CEO also cant help')

gothic_coder

My stance regarding this issue is that once in a while you use pirated stuff... I hardly know any of my my friend who don't download movies, I never saw anyone in my friends circle who buy original microsoft office(Specially when you're student)...

As far as big-guns are concerned they always make money, no matter you use pirated stuff or not.. They cry for CD/DVD Piracy, But they get all the profit from theatrical release only(As J4K said)... Same thing with music also...

I ain't saint, i used some of pirated stuff, But again i'm not alone everyone must've used pirated stuff, Including all of you

StarK

talk about a lower price tag for winblows... and what about the fact that we have to spend 25-30$ an year on antivirus software for their faults. they couldn't even provide that for free!

it is just like not providing after sales services to a product.