- 3rd July 2009 #1gothic_coderGuest
The placebo effect is when a person takes something they believe is medicine for an ailment they are suffering (which is not really a medicine),
and they get better. A placebo is an inert substance, and when taken (with the advice from others that it will cure them) makes the person get better, simply because they were expecting or believed that it would work. Something similar, called the nocebo effect, is when a person takes fake drugs and thinks they are experiencing problems that would have been
caused by the real drugs. They have been known to reduce pain as well. Why they occur is mysterious and they are only one of the many complicated things related to the body-brain connection. In fact, our own bodies hold many unsolved mysteries.
How did life on earth appear? Science suggests that life started when the planet was favourable for habitation. Yet did microscopic organisms just pop out of nowhere? One hypothesis is panspermia, which suggests that ‘seeds of life’ exist everywhere around the universe, and that life on earth started when these ‘seeds’ came here, probably by a meteor. It also suggests that these seeds are taken to other habitable places in the universe. Something similar to this is exo-genesis. It suggests that life was brought to earth those billions of years ago, however it does not say that life is also taken to other habitable places. Some people believe aliens brought life to our planet, as suggested by the theories of Erich Von Daniken. Although some are sceptical as to how life could exist in space and get carried to other planets, there is substantial evidence that certain life forms, like spores and certain types of bacteria can actually exist in space, perhaps in a dormant state.
From the death of the dinosaurs, to the disappearance of the creatures in the Permian Era, mass extinctions are occurring even now.
Sometimes, the cause is clear. We are destroying the biosphere and the atmosphere, and scientists predict that in the next 100 years, 50% of all living species will become extinct. But sometimes, the real reason is unclear. It may have been due to competition from other species, dramatic climate changes, or the impacts from an asteroid/meteor (the last one being quite a popular one). Yet some questions remain unanswered. Why was it that some species died out, and others survived, some to this day (famous example: the coelacanth). During the extinction of the dinosaurs, crocodiles and turtles were around, but they survived, even to this day, while the dinosaurs,
the pterosaurs, the marine reptiles and others died out. While some people believe that those species were unable to cope with the (possibly) new surroundings, others are not convinced. To this day, they are a mystery, and without a time machine, we may never know. Other popular theories include:- flood basalt events, smaller asteroid showers, global warming/cooling, sea level drops.
Zombies in Haiti
Haitan vodou, part of their religious practices, has long been considered to be evil. And the base of this suspicion is that the vodou is used to create zombies. Not zombies as in Hollywood zombies. Not animated brain ****ing zombies. Zombies like, sub-conscious humans who do everything they are told. Wade Davis, a Canadian ethno-biologist, uncovered a lot of info on this. Apparently, it originated in Africa, and two drugs (or poisons) are inserted into the victim’s bloodstream. One creates a deathlike trance, and one makes the victim seem like they have no brain of their own, thus rendering them able to do whatever they are told. 3 important facts Davis found was:- zombification is not random, it is not common, and it is used as a kind of severe punishment, most likely to those that have broken the sacred vodou laws.
Ever learned something without really understanding how you know it? That’s intuition. Sometimes called a sixth sense or gut feelings, intuition is the ability to acquire knowledge without a clear source or without reasoning it. Some people claim that they get a feeling that someone is watching them, and they look around and find that somebody is, or was, watching them. Or a police officer may look at some suspects for a crime and somehow know which one is guilty, and later discover they were right. Though some people say that these things are all coincidences, others believe that the human brain has a special ability to get knowledge around them without conscious realization. It is another mystery of the human mind.
- 3rd July 2009 #2gothic_coderGuest2012
What makes this year so special? The fact that the Olympics are taking place in London? No. The ancient Maya civilization,from Central America, had a special calendar that was mind-blowingly accurate. And it predicted that the end of the human life cycle was on December 21st, 2012, the winter solstice. The Mayans were also good at math and astrology(they accurately predicted an eclipse that occurred hundred of years later). So people are guessing that they were right about the end of the world thing, too. Something else that has gotten scientists curious is that there are some major astronomical things happening in 2012. Apart from the occasional eclipse and comet, the entire solar system is supposed to pass through the center of our galaxy, something that happens only once every 26,000 years. And, there’s a risk of our planet’s poles switching. Sounds crazy, but scientists say this has already happened. Also, the Indian calendar, the Kali Yuga, ends at about the same time. Coincidence? I think not.
Life on exoplanets
Exoplanets, short for extra-solar planets, are planets beyond the solar system. There are 277 recorded exoplanets to date. However, there is no confirmation that there is life on any of them, or in the universe, for that matter. However, it is still a mystery. This is different from UFOs as UFO are unidentified flying objects, meaning something unidentified that has been seen on earth. Some likely candidates for supporting life are Gliese 581 d and HD 189733 b, the latter supposedly containing water vapour and organic matter. There are also questions as to whether there are moons orbiting these planets. Some people believe that there may even be life in our solar system that we don’t know of. Some moons, like Neptune’s Triton or Saturn’s Europa, may possible have, or had, life, and there is substantial evidence that water once flowed through Mars. Still, no one knows.
Etched into the earth on the Nazca Plains in Peru are giant symbols drawn perfectly straight. Some are hundreds of metres long.
They look as if they were drawn by some giant hand two thousand years ago. And the strange thing is, they can only be seen from the air. So how did the ancient Nazcans draw them? Researchers say they could have created hot air balloon or kites to fly and view their work. Indeed, an experiment was carried out and it proved that the Nazcans could have made a working balloon. The symbols themselves are of animals and plants. Yet some are long strips of land without any direct meaning. A writer named Erich Von Daniken believed that these were landing strips for alien spacecraft, and that aliens could have drawn them. They may also be for contacting these aliens. Maria Reiche, an astronomer, says that these lines may be used as a calendar, or to keep track of the stars and planets. There is a monkey drawing that has a coiled tail that looks similar to the orbital lines of our solar system. There are even more obscure theories that suggest that there were giant people 2,000 years ago. Yet, they are still a mystery.
A megalithic structure is some thing big made of rock. It could be a statue, or just some rocks strewn around in a pattern. The truly mysterious thing about the ancients is, how were they able to create such enormous things? They did not have the technology needed to efficiently make them. Stonehenge is a good example. A bigger one is the Great Pyramid in Giza, or the pyramids themselves. Sometimes, even their purpose is unclear (Stonehenge), while other times, the structures in question are mysterious and seemingly supernatural (the pyramids). A megalith (I know, sounds like something from Di-Gata Defenders), a giant rock, is used most of the time,
especially in the case of Stonehenge and the Carnac stones. Still, there are a few megalithic structures that are not mysterious (like Great Zimbabwe), but mostly it seems impossible that the ancients made these things themselves. Now, many would like to think aliens helped them. Yet even scientists say queerer things. They suggest that there may have been a lost ancient civilization that was extremely advanced, and they may have given later civilizations the knowledge to build such things. Yet there is no
substantial evidence of either. Other examples: Easter Island Heads, Pyramid of the Sun (in Mesoamerica), other pyramids in central and south America, Colossus of Rhodes.
Creation of the Universe
The universe is vast and unknown. It holds many mysteries. And possibly the biggest mystery is how the universe was created. Scientists have suggested that there was a massive explosion billions of years ago called The Big Bang. That theory is now generally accepted, and scientists are looking for trails of energy left behind from the colossal explosion that created a trillion stars. Yet there is no absolute proof. But the creation of the universe is something too big to happen so simply. Religious folks will say God/Allah/Vishnu created the universe. But scientists will say that there was a Big Bang, and that there is energy from the bang moving through the universe, and they are trying to locate the epicentre. So, the debate
continues. Religion vs. Science is probably the biggest conflict in the world. But what is religion? There are so many different types. And the difference between the Christian religion and Greek mythology? No one believes in Greek mythology anymore. But what is science? And math? Things created by man. So before saying that man created God and science proves it, people should realize man created science as well. And maybe, the universe is just something made up in our minds.
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Yes, we helped the humans in all of these (except the placebo and the creation of the universe)
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- 4th July 2009 #5gothic_coderGuest
Placebo is really interesting... That really shows how wide/huge your mind can think and act..
That brings new topic, Sixth Sense, Seventh Sense.
Thanks for the rep farce
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interesting as well as some of it is damn scary .....Dont count wat u lost, cherish wat u ve & plan wat to gain...coz past neva returns but future may return the lost! Think-Decide-Act!!!!
- 4th July 2009 #8ShAdOwCoNGuest
All these are almost correct . to put it in 2 words these are "Exaggerated Facts"
About Nazca Lines
Researcher Joe Nickell of the University of Kentucky has reproduced the figures using the technology available to the Nazca people of the time and without aerial assistance. With careful planning and simple technologies, a small team of individuals could recreate even the largest figures within days
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- 4th July 2009 #9saurav_kGuest
The Nazca Drawings are visible from the space. According to some researchers and theorists - there could have been some link with the outer world. I read about Nazca lines 4-5 years ago. This theory was presented by Erich von Daniken in his book "Chariots of the God". He said that that advanced space beings might have visited the earth early in human history and played a part in the development of human intelligence and technology. According to von Daniken, the Nazca lines marked out an "airfield" on which spacecraft landed and took off. There were many facts and arguments which supported his claims. I dont remember them exactly.
Very good thread GC. these topics are always of great interest to me.
You can use google earth to see the Nazca drawings yourself.
- 4th July 2009 #10ShAdOwCoNGuest
That guy is a complete joker . please read his profile info
Erich Anton Paul von Däniken (born April 14, 1935) is a controversial Swiss author best known for his books which present claims of evidence for extraterrestrial influences on early human culture, most prominently Chariots of the Gods?, published in 1968. Von Däniken is one of the key figures responsible for popularizing the paleocontact and ancient astronaut hypotheses.
Most historians regard Von Däniken's claims as pseudoscience, and are of the opinion that he is drawing far-reaching conclusions from little evidence, and he is disregarding more likely alternative hypotheses, but a large group of followers, some of whom have written books of their own, are of the opinion that his theories are likely to be true.
Ronald Story published The Space Gods Revealed in 1976, providing an almost page-by-page refutation of the hypotheses and evidence in von Däniken's "Chariots of the Gods?".
He was also a fraudster.
soon after Chariots of the Gods was published he was arrested and charged by Interpol with fraud and tax evasion for non-payment of $14,000.00. he did much more
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- 4th July 2009 #12ShAdOwCoNGuest
can you explain why he is such a big fraudster ? And why he is not considered as a historian or a researcher by academicians
You got taken in by his arguments .
I have read many books about Alien Invasion Theories .
Its very convincing ...... until you know the truth . Please search and find about more about this character in the internet .
Von Däniken's run-ins with the law started at an early age. In the 1960s, Von Däniken worked in hotels and restaurants across Switzerland, and then he was convicted of fraud, serving a prison sentence for defrauding his boss at one hotel. In 1967, soon after Chariots of the Gods was published he was arrested and charged by Interpol with fraud and tax evasion for non-payment of $14,000.00. On behalf of the prosecution, he was ordered by the Court to undergo psychological examinations. During the investigation, authorities uncovered a large personal debt totaling about $700,000. Von Däniken was found guilty of embezzlement, and he served more than three years in Swiss prisons. Von Däniken stated in the preface of his book Return to the Stars that it was written while he was "in prison on remand". In 1982, that conviction was overturned by the Graubünden cantonal court. During his prison term, Von Däniken wrote his second book: Return to the Stars. His criminal convictions dogged von Däniken, who was at times not permitted visas to enter the United States, or some other countries. That caused him to become a no-show at several speaking engagements, including a so-called "Legendary Times" San Francisco, Calif. seminar in May 2004.
By 1982, after further controversies, Von Däniken could not find a British or American publisher for his 10th book. His books have continued to be published in the German language and are best sellers. In the 1990s and 2000s newer books were published in English. Although in the past several years his theories have made a modest resurgence, a multi-million dollar theme park based on von Däniken's ideas and persona was a financial disappointment, and it was closed in November 2006 due to poor attendance.
Please do read this book first ... written by a real researcher
Frauds, Myths, and Mysteries: Science and Pseudoscience in Archaeology
Frauds, Myths, and Mysteries: Science and Pseudoscience in Archaeology - Kenneth L. Feder, Feder Kenneth, Paperback - Books Buy Frauds, Myths, and Mysteries: Science and Pseudoscience in Archaeology India - Infibeam.com
Frauds, Myths, and Mysteries: Science and Pseudoscience in Archaeology is a book by Kenneth L. Feder, a professor of archaeology at Central Connecticut State University.
The work takes a skeptical look at outrageous claims in the field of archaeology. It is in the tradition of Martin Gardner's Fads and Fallacies in the Name of Science and Charles Mackay's Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds. It is required reading in some archaeology courses. Bettina Arnold writes that this book “has influenced thousands of undergraduates in introductory courses across the country (and presumably overseas as well), a significant contribution to the everlasting struggle to maintain some control over how professional archaeology is perceived by the general public.
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- 4th July 2009 #13saurav_kGuest
His actvities in personal life and other small illegal activities dont necessarily mean that what he writes is also fake. He is a controversial author. There are many people who oppose him and many who support him. Such -ve instances can be found in the life of most famous persons. there are +ve aspects also. Does his full Profile in Wiki reflects only the bad things. :no:
Anyways lets leave it here ...
- 4th July 2009 #14ShAdOwCoNGuest
What i am saying is that he is trying to make a living by selling crap . He s also got a talent for it .
The thing is academicians dont regard him as a historian or researcher .He is not considered as a historian at all . Just a poser .
Ronald Story published The Space Gods Revealed in 1976
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- 4th July 2009 #15gothic_coderGuest
Okay enough of this Erich Anton Paul von Däniken and nazca lines, But whatever it is, it's still cool, We can also talk about an indian author Purushottam Nagesh Oak who became famous for his book Taj Mahal: The True Story and i guess indira gandhi put ban on that book
- 4th July 2009 #16ShAdOwCoNGuest
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- 4th July 2009 #17saurav_kGuest
I have got digital copies of most of Daniken's books. If someone is interested - I can share.
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- 4th July 2009 #19ShAdOwCoNGuest
Nope i have not read the book ...... But the banning was political ofcourse
Talking about the book .... i know nothing about the guy or his book .... Give me some links
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- 4th July 2009 #22gothic_coderGuest
Sorry for ^ post i should've written that it doesn't matter that book shows authentic stuff or not.. It was bound to be banned
- 4th July 2009 #23saurav_kGuestNot far from the sea, in the Peruvian spurs of the Andes, lies the ancient city of Nazca. The Palpa valley contains a strip of level ground some 37 miles long and one mile wide that is scattered with bits of stone resembling pieces of rusty iron. The inhabitants call this region pampa, although any vegetation is out of the question there. If you fly over this territory—the plain of Nazca—you can make out gigantic lines, laid out geometrically, some of which run parallel to each other, while others intersect or are surrounded by large trapezoidal areas.
The archaeologists say that they are Inca roads.
A preposterous idea! What use were roads that run parallel to each other to the Incas? That intersect? That are laid out in a plain and come to a sudden end?
Naturally typical Nazca pottery and ceramics are found here, too. But it is surely oversimplifying things to attribute the geometrically arranged lines to the Nazca culture for that reason alone.
No serious excavations were ever carried out in this area until 1952. There is no established chronology for all the tilings that were found. Only now have the lines and geometrical figures been measured. The results clearly confirm the hypothesis that the lines were laid out according to astronomical plans. Professor Alden Mason, a specialist in Peruvian antiquities, suspects signs of a kind of religion in the alignments and perhaps a calendar as well.
Seen from the air, the clear-cut impression that the 37-mile-long plain of Nazca made on me was that of an airfield!
What is so far-fetched about the idea?
'Research' (= knowledge) does not become possible until the thing that is to be investigated has actually been found' Once it is found, it is tirelessly polished and trimmed until it has become a stone that—miraculously enough—fits exactly into the existing mosaic. Classical archaeology does not admit that the pre-Inca peoples could have had a perfect surveying technique. And the theory that aircraft could have existed in antiquity is sheer humbug to it.
In that case, what purpose did the lines at Nazca serve? According to my way of thinking they could have been laid out on their gigantic scale by working from a model and using a system of co-ordinates or they could also have been built according to instructions from an aircraft. It is not yet possible to say with certainty whether the plain of Nazca was ever an airfield. If iron was used it will certainly not be found. For most metals corrode in a few years, but stone never corrodes. What is wrong with the
idea that the lines were laid out to say to the 'gods': 'Land here! Everything has been prepared as "you" ordered'? The builders of the geometrical figures may have had no idea what they were doing. But perhaps they knew perfectly well what the 'gods' needed in order to land.
Enormous drawings that were undoubtedly meant as signals for a being floating in the air are found on mountain sides in many parts of Peru. What other purpose could they have served?
One of the most peculiar drawings is carved on the high red wall of the cliffs in the Bay of Pisco. If you arrive by sea, you can make out a figure nearly 820 ft high from a distance of over 12 miles. If you play at 'It looks like ...', your immediate reaction is that this sculptor's work looks like a gigantic trident or a colossal three-branched candlestick. And a long rope was found on the central column of this stone sign. Did it serve as a pendulum in the past?
To be honest, we must admit that we are groping in the dark when we try to explain it. It cannot be meaningfully included in existing dogmas, which does not mean to say that there may not be some trick by which scholars could conjure this phenomenon too into the great mosaic of accepted archaeological thinking.
But what can have induced the pre-Inca peoples to build the fantastic lines, the landing strips, at Nazca? What madness could have driven them to create the 820-ft-high stone signs on the red cliffs south of Lima?
These tasks would have taken decades without modern machines and appliances. Their whole activity would have been senseless if the end-product of their efforts had not been meant as signs to beings approaching them from great heights. The stimulating question still has to be answered: why did they do all this if they could have had no idea that flying beings actually existed?
The identification of finds can no longer remain a matter for archaeology alone. A council of scientists from different fields of research would certainly bring us closer to the solution of the puzzle. Exchange of opinions and dialogue would definitely produce illuminating insights. The danger of research coming to no definite conclusion lies in the fact that scientists do not take the posing of such questions seriously and ridicule them. Space travellers in the grey mists of time? An inadmissible question to academic scientists. Anyone who asks questions like that ought to see a psychiatrist.
But the questions are there, and questions, thank heavens, have the impertinent quality of hovering in the air until they are answered. And there are many inadmissible questions like that. For example, what would people say if there was a calendar which gave the equinoxes, the astronomical seasons, the positions of the moon for every hour and also the movements of the moon, even taking the rotation of the earth into account? .............................
- 4th July 2009 #24ShAdOwCoNGuest
Taken from national geographic site
It pays to study history , uneducated Danikan was ignorent about the religion followed by the Nazcas or that a civilization existed before the Nazcas (Paracas) who etched similar figures on a smaller scale in the same area .
Islas and Reindel also found planks with etchings similar to the enormous drawings previously discovered in the desert sands.
"We searched some tombs and in each we found funeral shrouds, vessels, shells, and necklaces made of semi-precious stones, but more importantly we found gold objects" similar to the giant whale figures etched in the desert, Islas said.
The etchings in the desert make up a sacred landscape honoring water and fertility.
"The technique is simple," Islas said. "The straight lines are traced with stakes attached with a string. The difficult part is translating the figures to the large scale while maintaining the correct proportions." The Nasca people created more than 1,000 figures of varying sizes, from a sundial 150 meters (500 feet) long to whales, foxes, and pelicans of 40 meters (130 feet) in length. They also etched human figures, apparently representing a family, each measuring 30 meters (100 feet) long.
The Nasca created these immense figures in an effort to differentiate themselves from their predecessors, the Paracas, whose art was on a much smaller scale.
The geoglyphs in the Palpa valley provide evidence that a new culture emerged in the region near the start of the Christian era, bringing with it new methods of building settlements and a new ideology.
The cultural changes evident from the geoglyphs have also been noted by scientists studying the more than 600 archaeological sites in the region.
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All this is correct Shadow. But all this doesn't prove that
aliens were not involved.
- 4th July 2009 #26ShAdOwCoNGuest
I am only saying that theres no proof that Aliens were involved .
1. There is no evidence that there are Aliens among us or anywhere near earth . Clear evidence not obscure photographs of alleged spaceships
2. It has been proved that Nazcas could have drawn it by themselves
3. It has also been proved that they had ample reason to make those carvings (religious and cultural) refer to my Nat Geo post
So draw ur own conclusions
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You are right of course. Occam's razor and all that.
Why assume aliens were involved when the humans
could have done it themselves.
But I strongly believe that in the future the existence
of aliens and ghosts will be proved.
- 5th July 2009 #28ShAdOwCoNGuest
i believe your personality is fueling your bias (Alien theory)
tho notice that i have not expressed my opinions yet on this theory . maybe it deserves a new thread
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which one are you? alien or ghost?
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my ID has the words "bhut" (bhoot) in it.
still want clarification?
as for alien, well we know all about Q........
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- 5th July 2009 #36newprouserGuest
first catch me if you can :tt2: :tt2: