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    We can say any society as prosperous when women can stay safely there. But in few Asian countries we did not see it very much. Even in India also condition of women is not so good women assault, domestically violence, lack of freedom & negligence all present in our society. Probably sometimes we are the metro cities person forget about the entire dark story by the gorgeous metro life style. Sometimes we think also society has changed now which is partially true and it also applicable for few pockets and more precisely for few developed families but still lots of Indian society’s women are victim.
    Although it is all known fact, now my point is how we can this thing? Recently Govt. added new laws to protect the women just example to protect the women from domestic violence 2 years ago 498A law has implemented which is non-bailable & one of the strongest law. I am not going to detail about it but this law gives lots of privilege to women.

    Now the question is it really helps to majority of victim women? Because lots of rural women never know about it and if they become victim also they never want to complaint due to lack of economical freedom & social support.
    In other side few people think this law can be misuse also. This can create a harmful effect in society.

    Now I think if we really want to give relief to the women then govt. should take few more steps rather than only implementation of law and also society should need to change. Just like Govt. have to ensure law & order situation it can reduce women related crime not only that Govt. need to give special care about to stop girl embryo killing, Primary & secondary education for all girls because if they become self independent then they don’t need much support of others.

    Finally we need to our move forward and ensure that women should get proper respect and importance in society but until our society will be educated with proper knowledge we can’t expect such step from larger part of Indian society.

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    IMO present law can do much help to bring up their status. As long as people don't change thier attitude not much improvement is possible.

    Either that or we should have stict laws as in arab countries.

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    If every mother in law decides and take a resolution about women's problem, the issue is solved by sunset. These laws can be terribly misused. We have enough laws, only doesn't have the will power to implement them. Most of the issues start and end with dowry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meetdilip View Post
    If every mother in law decides and take a resolution about women's problem, the issue is solved by sunset.
    very true

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    First we have to stop mis-using the the laws designed to
    protect women. A major chunk of the anti-dowry cases have
    nothing to do with dowry, it's a way for the bride's family
    to get back at the groom for any kind of problem.

    check out 498a.org

    -F

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    I say, put a stop to those damn MIL-DIL serials first !!!

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    First we should have a woman mod here. We have 3 mod but no one among them is a woman.(DTIS) Did any one read the recent verdict of SC that beating of daughter in law will not come under cruelty now? Isn't it ironic that there is no women discussing this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker View Post
    ) Did any one read the recent verdict of SC that beating of daughter in law will not come under cruelty now? Isn't it ironic that there is no women discussing this?
    please give more details on this case. I am curious.

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    Here it is:-
    A husband and his relatives cannot be prosecuted for 'cruelty' towards wife merely because the mother-in-law or other family members had kicked her or for that matter threatened her with divorce, the Supreme Court has held.

    Similarly, if a mother-in-law gives constant sermons to the daughter-in-law or allegedly treated her shabbily by giving her used dress suits, it does not invite prosecution under Section 498A of the IPC, a bench of Justices S B Sinha and Cyriac Joseph said.

    However, if the mother-in-law takes away the gifts given to the couple at the time of the marriage, it amounts to 'breach of trust' as specified under Section 406 IPC, the apex court said while dealing with an appeal filed by South Africa-based NRI husband and in-laws in a matrimonial dispute case.

    "Allegations that appellant No 2 (mother-in-law) kicked the respondent (daughter-in-law) with her leg and told her that her mother is a liar may make out some other offences but not the one punishable under Section 498A.

    "Similarly her allegations that the appellant No 2 poisoned the ears of her son against the respondent; she gave two used lady suits of her daughter to the complainant (daughter-in-law) and has been giving perpetual sermons to the complainant could not be said to be offences punishable under Section 498 A", it said.

    The bench said 'even threatening that her son may be divorced for the second time could not bring out the offence under Section 498A of the IPC'.


    Rediff.com i read it in mailtoday.

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    Well strange. My MIL wont do such things with me. But if she does I am not the kind to spare her :-P. Tit for tat.

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    You are brave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pri_dm View Post
    Well strange. My MIL wont do such things with me. But if she does I am not the kind to spare her :-P. Tit for tat.
    Bengali MIL are generally much docile than their North Indian counter parts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker View Post
    Did any one read the recent verdict of SC that beating of daughter in law will not come under cruelty now? Isn't it ironic that there is no women discussing this?
    Indeed ! I felt it was stupid !

    Quote Originally Posted by Pri_dm View Post
    Well strange. My MIL wont do such things with me. But if she does I am not the kind to spare her :-P. Tit for tat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by panchabhut View Post
    Bengali MIL are generally much docile than their North Indian counter parts
    Back to square 1.
    Last edited by newprouser; 08-09-09 at 11:56 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    MIL or DIL I think sometimes we find both as the victim of domestic violence so there is really one adjustment needed even that's why I am thinking in such family matter law can't do much if issue is not so major then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker View Post
    Here it is:-
    A husband and his relatives cannot be prosecuted for 'cruelty' towards wife merely because the mother-in-law or other family members had kicked her or for that matter threatened her with divorce, the Supreme Court has held.

    Similarly, if a mother-in-law gives constant sermons to the daughter-in-law or allegedly treated her shabbily by giving her used dress suits, it does not invite prosecution under Section 498A of the IPC, a bench of Justices S B Sinha and Cyriac Joseph said.

    However, if the mother-in-law takes away the gifts given to the couple at the time of the marriage, it amounts to 'breach of trust' as specified under Section 406 IPC, the apex court said while dealing with an appeal filed by South Africa-based NRI husband and in-laws in a matrimonial dispute case.

    "Allegations that appellant No 2 (mother-in-law) kicked the respondent (daughter-in-law) with her leg and told her that her mother is a liar may make out some other offences but not the one punishable under Section 498A.

    "Similarly her allegations that the appellant No 2 poisoned the ears of her son against the respondent; she gave two used lady suits of her daughter to the complainant (daughter-in-law) and has been giving perpetual sermons to the complainant could not be said to be offences punishable under Section 498 A", it said.

    The bench said 'even threatening that her son may be divorced for the second time could not bring out the offence under Section 498A of the IPC'.


    Rediff.com i read it in mailtoday.

    For once the court got it right.


    This is one of the times when you people get the knee-jerk reaction
    without knowing the entire case. Good thing I asked and you got this
    story. They were trying to frame the in-laws under a dowry case 498a.
    It was perfectly right for the case to be thrown out.

    If they want they can prosecute the in-laws under other sections
    for assault and battery.

    This is exactly what I was talking about in one of my previous posts. #5.


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    Farce, any of your previous wives used this on you??????

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    Quote Originally Posted by panchabhut View Post
    Farce, any of your previous wives used this on you??????
    You are a very perceptive guy.

    -F

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