Thread: World First.

Because it is sacred to all Semitic religion.

Originally Posted by mickey

New Testament looks to me as a really political thing..

yeah

btw about Eastern Chritianity i dont know much.. but it doesnt count as much the Modern Christians of the west count..

correct because
With the growing strength of Rome and its expansion into Asia.... Roman Catholicism became the dominant christian sect obviously

The fight of all this semitic religion was purely for Jerusalem. and also to get the hold to business route.. a political motivated feud..

Not business route ,it was a pilgrimage route ..... Being a holy place for Christianity (largest no of followers) ,Islam(Second largest) and Hebrews it was a tourist attractions

i am not happy because even the ancient days, only Sanskrit was the medium of talk between a person of Tamil origine and that of Sanskrit linga..

which Tamil kingdom had Sanskrit as its official language ? And tamil is still in everyday use ,while Sanskrit exists only for formal ceremonies

Shloks and Mantras are as older as vedas, so no comments..

Harrapan culture is even older in fact the oldest known civ in India ,and their script is related to Tamil not sanskrit
pls read the wiki article on Harrapan culture

Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

Right on that. Tamil I think is oldest language which is spoken ,of India . Sanskrit is not spoken for communication much but for shlokas & mantras. Now I think everyone is happy?

Who said you ?(underline statement)
In history sanskrit was communicating language for all north,west and Eastern India but day by day it changes into several language according to location and time.
Now which is old one Sanskrit or Tamil that different debate.In case of sanskrit it's old more than 3000-3500 Year from now.Yes in present direct Sanskrit is not using anyone but all the north,west and east Indian language it's children.

I am saying Sanskrit is not spoken now for communication. Tamil is.

why three Semitic religions when they all want same persons as Prophets??

for ex. Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism they are all out of Hinduism, but no one mentions anywhere if Lord Rama, or Lord Krishna are their God??
so these are different religions.. but the semitic religions have same fellows, than why different religions/?and the values and morals are same too, (being every religion tells to be good and not bad )

but still you say its not political,

Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

pls read the wiki article on Harrapan culture

again a wiki article


ok guys Hold on, why are we fighting, let the truth prevail, if its hiding anywhere...

now listen me,...

Religion is the biggest narcotic.
lets not fight and join hands and have a single religion called Bhartiyata..
Jai Hind, Bharat Mata Ki Jay!!! Long Live INDIA..

There is no similarity in religions you have mentioned other than that these were born in India.. In fact these were born out of opposition in values.
Semitic religion were born because one religion didn't recognise one prophet.
Semitic religion were born in varied places.
There was also a struggle between Hinduism & Buddhism. Re read history you should.

All religions always compete.

Originally Posted by Vikram09

Who said you ?(underline statement)
In history sanskrit was communicating language for all north,west and Eastern India but day by day it changes into several language according to location and time.
Now which is old one Sanskrit or Tamil that different debate.In case of sanskrit it's old more than 3000-3500 Year from now.Yes in present direct Sanskrit is not using anyone but all the north,west and east Indian language it's children.

Tamil Brahmi script earliest known excavation - 8 century BC

oldest sanskrit excavation -4th century BC

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil-Brahmi

Originally Posted by mickey

again a wiki article

How did you do that. I never posted that thing. I don't rely on wiki craps for these things.

Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

There is no similarity in religions you have mentioned other than that these were born in India(Asia).. In fact these were born out of opposition in values.
Semitic religion were born because one religion didn't recognise one prophet.
Semitic religion were born in varied places.
There was also a struggle between Hinduism & Buddhism. Re read history you should.

All religions always compete.

yeah whats wrong and whats correct varies hugely between these religions ... as different as Hindusim ,Buddism etc

Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

How did you do that. I never posted that thing. I don't rely on wiki craps for these things.

Neither do i .... but when giving references during casual discussion ..simple wiki articles are way better than historical journals .

Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

There was also a struggle between Hinduism & Buddhism.

its a different issue, its war and not Hindu-Buddhist.. infact Ashok himself was a hindu, then converted to Buddhism.


thats what i am trying to tell you, these religions (semitic ones) are all political...

Buddhism was carved out of Hinduism because Buddha was feeling anxiety(not because he thought Hinduism was bad) but because he wanted to live in solelyness. while people around him made a religion..



how can you term that semitic religions were born at different places??

Abraham was born in Persia. Moses in Egypt. Jesus in Bethelem.Muslim in Arabs.
There was a struggle between Buddhism & Hinduism. Read that part I don't want to post that part from history.

Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN

Tamil Brahmi script earliest known excavation - 8 century BC

oldest sanskrit excavation -4th century BC

Tamil-Brahmi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I have said that's different issue it's not so essay, I think only wiki is not sufficient I have read few books also where origin of Sanskrit explanation is very mysterious and not properly mention because it was Aryan language now Aryan history and from where the came in India is still doubtful episode.There is lot of contradicting opinion present to lot of historian so it's not very easy to find out exact creation of Sanskrit.

Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

Abraham was born in Persia. Moses in Egypt. Jesus in Bethelem.Muslim in Arabs.
There was a struggle between Buddhism & Hinduism. .

do you think these red marked places are very distant??? and btw religion is not born by person's birthplace(though birthplace is important) but starts from the place where a person starts his business and thats preaching..

Read that part I don't want to post that part from history.

which part post it..

Moses started his preaching in Egypt. In Persia Abraham started his preaching but was not successful much. Tell me the distance between Hinduism & Buddhism.

By the way , 'Which religion say it is false?'

Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

Buddhists genocide do take place.

Muslims genocide Christians, Hindus, Buddhists(Bangladesh) so no one is out of it boy

Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

Buddhists genocide do take place.

Moses started his preaching in Egypt. In Persia Abraham started his preaching but was not successful much. Tell me the distance between Hinduism & Buddhism.

By the way , 'Which religion say it is false?'

where was Hinduism born, pls tell me... :blushing:

Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

By the way , 'Which religion say it is false?'

That was not the point. Point was Buddhism was consider a affront to hinduism.
Ashoka banned vedas. & when some other party came it banned Buddhist scriptures.

Later Semitic religions never banned previous one semitic religion scriptures. In ancient time they have openly supported each other.

By the way which religion tells that it is false?

wow! I seem to have missed some interesting discussions ;-)

-PF

I was going to pm you PF.

By the way lets get out of this crap unless one wants to be invisible.

Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

I was going to pm you PF.

Are you a friend? because my settings have changed to accept PMs
only from 'friends' because of some junk from a spammer.
So if anyone wants to PM me or add visitor messages please
send friendship requst first.

thanks
-PF

Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

That was not the point. Point was Buddhism was consider a affront to hinduism.
Ashoka banned vedas. & when some other party came it banned Buddhist scriptures.

Hinduism never confronts. it accepts others. see many religions in India from long way back 200 b.c (Buddha, Mahavir- diff theories) if we had problems with others how could they live and breed here??

Later Semitic religions never banned previous one semitic religion scriptures. In ancient time they have openly supported each other.

God, its only now that Europe has muslims, though no muslims maybe living in Arabia, (but some in Lebonan live and they fight)

By the way which religion tells that it is false?

now what more can i say?? if religions will preach we are wrong, people wont get to them..

Originally Posted by mickey

God, its only now that Europe has muslims, though no muslims maybe living in Arabia, (but some in Lebonan live and they fight)





now what more can i say?? if religions will preach we are wrong, people wont get to them..

Read much history you should. Spain was a Muslim Country & So was the South France.

Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

Read much history you should. Spain was a Muslim Country & So was the South France.

Spanish people had problems with Islam so they bashed them from Spain. (you must read history and conclude with patience )

and it was religion which got muslims got kicked out of espana.

Originally Posted by mickey

Spanish people had problems with Islam so they bashed them from Spain. (you must read history and conclude with patience )

and it was religion which got muslims got kicked out of espana.

Sorry to say Spanish were Muslims reread history. Spanish Muslims were genocide in 12 century. More genocide had taken place in one time only( Ghenghis Khan).
There were many Eurpopaen Muslims living in Arabs also.

Originally Posted by mickey

Hinduism never confronts. it accepts others. see many religions in India from long way back 200 b.c (Buddha, Mahavir- diff theories) if we had problems with others how could they live and breed here??

Re read the history. I never bashed any religion.
For me :Science without religion is blind & religion without science is lame.

Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

Sorry to say Spanish were Muslims reread history. Spanish Muslims were genocide in 12 century. More genocide had taken place in one time only( Ghenghis Khan).
There were many Eurpopaen Muslims living in Arabs also.

The religion was dominant in southern Spain from 711 to 1492 under the rule of the Arabs...

these were Arabs who came from Yemen and Syria.. so were not people of spanish origin.. Spanishmen foght them and got them out of Spain..

Wrong going to post real fact. There were Muslim spanish rulers also.