Thread: Atrocities on Tamils in Srilanka - Is the govt of India responsible?

The struggle of Tamils in Srilanka is not new and the government of India has also played a role in making it even more worse for the Tamils in my opinion.

The peace keeping force that was sent to Srilanka by then Prime minister Late Shri Rajiv Gandhi but the forces were called off after huge causalities that took place and we had no place to hide our faces.

Why are the Tamil people in Srilanka suffering? Dont you think if the Government of India wanted they could prevent the human rights violations happening in Srilanka? I don't know how but I know this much that India has enough influence around the world to gather support in pressurizing Srilankan govt to treat Tamils as equals....

If you have read the times of India today there was a news about how Tamil people are being treated in camps at Srilanka.

Would there be peace for them ever? Would Tamil population ever get to live in peace and be left alone and get their place in the society in Srilanka?

I personally think that the way Bangladesh was created there should be a swift action in Srilanka and a separate country for Tamil population there would solve the issue to a great extent although India would have to guarantee the security of the new nation for some time until they gather strength which I am sure they will in no time.

I am not a Tamil and my only interest in this topic limits to my interest in stoping human right voilation doesnt matter who it is directed against and I do not believe in hatered its just that its such a shame that such acts are being carried out in a country right next to us... not that such things didint or dont happen in our country but I believe it is every ones duty to raise a voice against such things even though we do not hold any power to control events but we do have the power to vote for those who stand for human rights and not just make plain promises.

Are there any Tamils in Sri Lanka, I thought they lived in Tamil Nadu!

And why is the Sri Lanka government after them?

@Preeti_20
Typed a reply, but on second thoughts ,
decided not to respond to an ignoramus like you.

@Parminder
Your concern is well appreciated.
( other comments edited and deleted by me .)
Let us hope , Sri Lanka leadership, show
better sense, and treat Tamil speaking
population , in their country, as equal citizens

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This is a forum and you shouldnt keep yourself from expressing whatever your views are using a language that would not offend others.... I personally welcome you to voice your opinion here and reconsider posting whatever you posted earlier as I never got a chance to read it.

I am sure more then 70% of members here dont even know what the problem is and by having a health discussion I am sure we would be able to atleast bring these things to light and let every one know atleast.

I being a North Indian myself know that the Tamil issue in Srilanka is not even heard of by many here so I am sure it would be news for most reading this thread that something out of the ordinary is happening in srilanka and something needs to be done.

As long the Congress party is in power India will not do anything I can assure you that much... the only chances of India taking a stand and actively do something is if another political party comes to power other then Congress I.

Congress I sucks any way .... what have they done to the nation all these years ... these congress neta log have sucked our blood ever since India became independent and became a colonoy of the Congress party.

Naxal issue is being mishandeled... there is a very smooth way out of that situation... would talk about it in a different thread as this would just sway the topic far away from the title.

Originally Posted by Preeti_20

Are there any Tamils in Sri Lanka, I thought they lived in Tamil Nadu!

And why is the Sri Lanka government after them?

I dont blame you for asking such questions... The whole of North India doesnt have a clue what this is about... I will write an extended post on this to explain what is what and where is it heading to... will write when I have some time may be tonight

I am sure before I get some time you would already see some very detailed posts here from other members but if not be assured I will write a few thousand words on this and still be left with more info

For the time being you can read about the issue to some extent by googling "black july" and see what is what for starters... wiki article on this is pretty moderate in my opinion and does include biased info in favor of srilankan govt and is far from the truth. Militant strugles dont start out of thin air... there has to be a cause and I will write about those causes and leave aside the armed strugle that have kind of halted for the time being to revive at a later state if the srilankan govt doesnt mend its ways... Congress party will not stay in power for ever in India and the reigns of power will come to more saner hands one day God willing.

Tamils are facing severe discrimination in the hands of racist Lankans. Only Indian intervention can bring a difference.

Originally Posted by meetdilip

Tamils are facing severe discrimination in the hands of racist Lankans. Only Indian intervention can bring a difference.

No Indian govt. will do nothing.Indian govt. is following infamous watch and wait policy.Other wise all problems in India could have been solved.

The massive offensive and mass killings that are going on now would have never happened if the Lankan govt would not have had a word with the govt of India. As you all already know who runs the government of India and think for a moment whose side would the government take...
Late Rajiv Gandhi had no reason whatso ever to send that peace keeping force to Lanka in the first place and if he would not have lost power to the VP singh govt the forces would not have been called back and if atall Rajiv gandhi came back to power again he would have sent the army again which is clear from the statements he made here and there. I personally know an Army sepoy who lost his leg in the Lankan operation and I know the first hand account of what happened there back then and believe you me that it was not a peace keeping force that it was called.

Rajiv's mother Indra Gandhi showed much better leadership when she pulled a fast one on Bangladesh front but Rajiv failed this nation by doing just the opposite and taking sides with the opressors instead unlike his mother.

Rahul Gandhi is already being portrayed as the next prime minister of India by Congressmen.... if that happens I dont see a helping hand from the govt of India in the near future but if there is change in power there is a possibility although I am not aware of BJP's stand on this issue as much as I know about congress I.

Originally Posted by baldev

No Indian govt. will do nothing.Indian govt. is following infamous watch and wait policy.Other wise all problems in India could have been solved.

Indian govt is not playing watch and wait policy ... the Indian government is actively supporting the oppression of Tamils in Lanka and even a 10 year old kid would tell you why. Equipment, training and what not... even intelligence. Without the Indian govts help Lankan govt would have never been able to wipe off LTTE and other smaller Tamil freedom fighter groups in Lanka or as more popularly known as terrorist groups whatever you wish to call them.

Congress need to go. Congress I has a history of making decisions based on personal perceptions and keeping nation's interest at bay while in power. This tradition goes back to Nehru ji's days...

Congress propaganda has created a larger then life image of people like Nehru and have systematically wiped off the real history off the books kids read in schools.
India has become a hostage in the hands of these select few who know how to win elections.

Why do we still have millions of people living below poverty line? Were 60 years not enough to ensure roti kapda and makaan for the entire nation? Congress I has failed but the voter in India fails to understand that we need a change and a leadership that would take this great nation to greater heights and make a place for itself on the world stage.

Down with the traitors of this nation who are the cause of anything and everything bad that happens in this country ... be it bad roads... bad infra, poor health facilities... no social security system in place and whatever little there is is filling their local party men's pockets..

J@k , ulfa,Naxals all are due to wait and watch policy.

If i am not wrong then in this battle to wipe off LTTE, Srilanka got the military support from Pakistan and China as India refused to supply offensive weapons to Sri Lanka and opposed any military solution of the ethnic conflict while urging Colombo to devolve autonomy to the minorities.

Pakistan sold 22 Al-Khalid tanks to Sri Lanka in a deal worth over US$100 million. Sri Lanka also purchased Multi-Barrel Rocket Launcher System (MBRLS), cluster bombs, deep penetration bombs and rockets and Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAV) from Pakistan, according to various reports. In fact, Sri Lanka, along with some Middle Eastern nations, has now become one of the largest buyers of Pakistani arms in the last few years.

Originally Posted by Parminder

Congress need to go. Congress I has a history of making decisions based on personal perceptions and keeping nation's interest at bay while in power. This tradition goes back to Nehru ji's days...

Congress propaganda has created a larger then life image of people like Nehru and have systematically wiped off the real history off the books kids read in schools.

India has become a hostage in the hands of these select few who know how to win elections.

Why do we still have millions of people living below poverty line? Were 60 years not enough to ensure roti kapda and makaan for the entire nation? Congress I has failed but the voter in India fails to understand that we need a change and a leadership that would take this great nation to greater heights and make a place for itself on the world stage.

Down with the traitors of this nation who are the cause of anything and everything bad that happens in this country ... be it bad roads... bad infra, poor health facilities... no social security system in place and whatever little there is is filling their local party men's pockets..

Congress just cant be criticized, we the people should be criticized who bring them to power.

Well i am not a fan of Congress but if congress has to go then its who...? its way better than BJP.

Originally Posted by deepmohan

If i am not wrong then in this battle to wipe off LTTE, Srilanka got the military support from Pakistan and China as India refused to supply offensive weapons to Sri Lanka and opposed any military solution of the ethnic conflict while urging Colombo to devolve autonomy to the minorities.

Please take some time out to read this book : Srilanka from war to peace written by Nitin Gokhale and let me know what you make of it... he is a well respected defence and stretegic affairs analyst and Editor for NDTV.

India did not and could not support Srilanka against Tamils openly because if they did DMK would have pulled the ground under their government by withdrawing support from the the government which was formed with their support and there was no one else to fill that gap and Congress being congress did what they did.

Please note that I do not agree to everything he says in that book as some of the things he says in that book in my opinion are influenced by Center's and Srilankan govt's propoganda. Just pay attention about what he has to say about the Indian support to the Lankan govt.

By the way why did Mr Mukerji go to Lanka for? why did DMK blame ltte for breaking the 48 hour cease fire? what happened in those days that prompted DMK to creticise LTTE for the first time ever.

"Dirty politics" is the only thing that comes to my mind and the price is paid by innocent by standers who are being crushed in the camps in Lanka.

Originally Posted by deepmohan

Well i am not a fan of Congress but if congress has to go then its who...? its way better than BJP.

Have you ever been to Haryana? I have seen Haryana from close quaters for the last 25 years or so ever since I was a kid and believe me the amount of progress in that state is unbelievable and its all due to the voters there.... they dont patronize a single party... one party comes to power they screw up and get punished so severly that Haryana wipes them off their state and this has been the case ever since Haryana was created out of Punjab when they made three states out of Punjab... Himachal, Haryana and Punjab that we see now.

If a party comes to power at Newdelhi does not fullfill its promises or doesn't fare well then chuck them out and let some one else have a chance...

BJP when it came to power under Vajpayee did a lot of great things and if given a chance is able to change the face of this nation. Yes they have a religious touch to their politics but Congress is no different..
When BJP was in power what was different... were you not allowed to go to a Mosque or your Gurudwara or your churches? Were you asked to pay a tax like jazia for not being a Hindu? Its all bullshit.. BJP guys in my opinion are more patriotic and less corrupt then their congress I counterparts.

Congress party is the only political party which in my opinion has played separatist politics ever since we became independent.

Custodial death of Verappan's Father in Srilanka.

Does anyone have any doubts on how he died? Srilankan Government killed him in custody is what I believe.

Srilankan Government sucks!