Thread: 1 year off before i join degree ?

Hi

I have been doing my Diploma in Electronics and seriously i hate it , never do that

So this is my final semister and now i am going to enter degree after a month break ( if i get super awesome marks which i won't)[min marks to get admission in mumbai is 85%+ ].

Now, let's come to the point :-

I am thinking to take a gap of 1 year after my semister is over and in this 1 year, i will try to learn languages like C,C++, Pearl, Unix etc.

& i will attend cources of Ethical Hacking and try to do stuff like that.

I just want to do these things for whole 1 year and if i became good at it, it can decide my future.

So was asking for your opinions.

Find out the service charges by a technician to service A TV/Tape recorder/Home system/ dvd player/ cellphone etc.
Service personnel after a stint in a company , start their own service shop.

If you hate Electronics( my bread and butter by the way ) i suggest take a diploma course in Computer Science while working. ( foundation course). If not included in your Diploma in Electronics.

If you find the subject interesting then learn the other programming languages before joining a degree course.

One year break may affect your chances of getting
admission for a Degree course.

Wish you, all success in your career.

i am not gonna get admission degree anyways though, coz i am not that study freak to get 85%+ in my final exams.

& yeah my dad i also electronic engineer.

You can check Colleges in Tamil Nadu.
No entrance examination. 50% marks in Plus 2.
Lowered to 45% this year.
Govt quota seats 69% reservedfor SC/ST BackwardOBC etc
Fees per annum around Rs 60,000/= I think.

Management quota fees will be higher.
Govt trying to stop Capitation( donation ?) charges by private colleges.
( can be in Lakhs depending on ranking of the college )

For Diploma Holders special quota available.
and join in
Second year of Degree course.
Check details By Google search.
You can add Hostel/charges and the
usual mess bill for food.
for
Any Degree is must for software or Computer professionals.
in India.
Bill Gates ( Microsoft Founder ) does not have a College degree !

do you think there is scope for Ethical Hackers in India?

I do not know what is meant by "ethical hackers"
can you explain please. Any income possible ?

Originally Posted by vorazeal

Hi

I have been doing my Diploma in Electronics and seriously i hate it , never do that

So this is my final semister and now i am going to enter degree after a month break ( if i get super awesome marks which i won't)[min marks to get admission in mumbai is 85%+ ].

Now, let's come to the point :-

I am thinking to take a gap of 1 year after my semister is over and in this 1 year, i will try to learn languages like C,C++, Pearl, Unix etc.

& i will attend cources of Ethical Hacking and try to do stuff like that.

I just want to do these things for whole 1 year and if i became good at it, it can decide my future.

So was asking for your opinions.

Same situation which I am facing right now. I completed diploma from deemed university. After that I could not get any admission anywhere in my state even though I got 69% because of government rules for deemed university student. So, I wasted my time on preparing TOEFL for abroad. & still preparing but could not get required marks for further application. I stuck up at toefl But buddy, you have time because you woke up early. I want to suggest only one thing. Do not indulge any kind of courses related to any filed It never give secure future unless you are master in that field. Education is just for securing future. You can do whatever you want along with study. It really helps you out.
As in the post you have mentioned your interest, that sound good but it will give minimum amount of salary if you could not be a best programmer but you never earn salary like degree student. B. Tech has own its value. If you are innovative and you are confident about your interest then go ahead because hacking field is not easy. You need to be mad behind that. I have seen that you are ready waste one year. Why do not you invest that one year behind AIEEE. There are lots of benefits of it. In all over india, AIEEE secured 10% quota in all top universities of india including all IITs. After giving that, you can change you major for degree. Buddy, you have time to change your future. I know AIEEE is not easy exam but it is god for diploma holder to get in degree. You can start learning programming with b.tech/ AIEEE exam
I am still feeling guilty of being lazy. I do not have any hope of having my bright future now because I wasted my one year. Instead of that I can invest my entire in other activities which will give me benefit for further study. Perhaps I have to pay more in future for that. I am free now. But I have to take admission in low reputed college by paying huge donation. So, I can remain active. I am still deeply interested in hacking field like you but I have chosen different major. I hope my advise will help you.

There is no quota reserved in NRI seats or management quota seats for diploma holders. After two years of being inactive, student can not apply for further regular course in my state. I hope that you do not have any kind rules like this in your state. You will have chance of getting admission in degree if you pass diploma from your government state education board.


Best of Luck
I can help by providing guidance as much as I know.

@jumping jack :-

but AIEEE needs 12th right?

Originally Posted by vorazeal

@jumping jack :-

but AIEEE needs 12th right?

No. Actually this question also raised in mind when I have completed diploma but I have searched that according this latest brochure diploma holder can give an exam.

Latest brochure from official website:
*ttp://aieee.nic.in/aieee2011/aieee/AIEEE%202011%20Information%20Brochure.pdf
check it on pg no. 32
official website: *ttp://aieee.nic.in

replace * with h

indeed dude,it is possible after diploma thanks a lot.

AIEEE is the last hope for me.!!!!!


BTW, does that thing have electronic subjects or subjects which we can select or just PCM?

Originally Posted by vorazeal

do you think there is scope for Ethical Hackers in India?

@essbebe see this *ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Hat

Ethical hacker checks system security by attacking on that system.
& about the scope, I do not know really but I can see a successful ethical hacker, Ankit fadia from India, recently. He is still growing tremendously. Now, he offers classes. I was mad. So, I collected lots of info about him. He started his learning when he was 15. He started his journey by taking his interest in security as his passion. He published lots of books in the market. Some of them are appreciated more by people like us who do not have knowledge of hacking or deep programming for some learning intension but I should say that he did good hard work in his life. Now, he is doing his major from world's 4th rank university, Standford University, USA. Normally, not a normal person can get an admission in Standford as well as no normal person can afford it but he made it. He often goes to give workshop and training to corporate level employees.
I do not know my knowledge is right/wrong about him but I know only this abt him.

Ankit Fadia on wiki (Read it)
*ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankit_Fadia
replace * with h

I asked @vorazeal, the information, which i know can be
obtained by Google search.


From Google search : ethical hacker.
INFOSEC INSTITUTE COURSE CATALOG

Originally Posted by essbebe

I asked @vorazeal, the information, which i know can be
obtained by Google search.


From Google search : ethical hacker.

It is in USA. So, there may be a problem to learn. I think best way to learn is Ankit fadia's courses. They are also available online.

Originally Posted by essbebe

I asked @vorazeal, the information, which i know can be
obtained by Google search.


From Google search : ethical hacker.
INFOSEC INSTITUTE COURSE CATALOG

i think these are the cource of the future.

Ethical hackers: someone India needs? | Latest News

Their are not much people in these filed, and if you manage to find interest in it, than you would definitely do a go.

Think for example you find a security flaw in website of "Big Bazar" they will definitely pay you huge money to us to fill it.

Originally Posted by vorazeal

i think these are the cource of the future.

Ethical hackers: someone India needs? | Latest News[/url]

Their are not much people in these filed, and if you manage to find interest in it, than you would definitely do a go.

Think for example you find a security flaw in website of "Big Bazar" they will definitely pay you huge money to us to fill it.

Nothing is invented which is non hackable whether it is maintained or not.

I think there is a scope because hackers really work hard to deface the system and ethical hacker prevent that. So, now a days it is highly required of an ethical hackers but because of being hard to be an ethical hacker, nobody chooses this profession or fails to be an ethical hacker.

Originally Posted by jumpingjack

Nothing is invented which is non hackable whether it is maintained or not.

indeed, all we need is some good guide and maybe good buddies to work together for a common project.

Experience:0 – 2 Years

Location elhi

Education: BCA, MCA a college degree in C.S

Job Description :
Looking for Certified Ethical Hackers.

Desired :
Freshers can also apply if done certified course in ethical hacking. 0-2 years experience is required.

Company Name:Adecco India

Address:1st Floor, 39 Pusa Road
New Delhi,Delhi,INDIA 110005

Originally Posted by essbebe

Experience:0 – 2 Years

I am sure there must be high scale because they require a person who completed degree/master as well as certified ethical hacker.

Certified Ethical Hacker (CEH) Salary - Average Certified Ethical Hacker (CEH) Salaries - PayScale

Get cracking for AIEEE !!!!!

AIEEE is very easy as I talked with student who gave it in the year of 2009. Now, He is studying at IIT, Bombay.

But we made up our mind that it is a hard exam because of physics, maths & chem. According to his experience, he told me that once you understand the fundamental of topics. Then it is very very easy. This exam does not contain any descriptive type of question. That exam just covers multiple choice type of question. Major disadvantage of this exam is negative marking. One point will deducted from the total if four questions are written wrong. Every year almost 1.5 to 2 lacs students give this exam and test their knowledge.
There are lots of guides available, tuitions, online classes and practice books for cracking AIEEE.
In the short period of time, I got the news that government will cancel the intake of part time degree quota and then after diploma's. In our state, order has passed that part time degree courses will be canceled which will be implemented by this year to so on. Government will consider 12th standard as a compulsory standard(state board exam) & 10th standard as a regular one.

Ethical Hacking has unlimited job opportunities these days. But there is a word of caution for guys looking to become an ethical hacker. There is no single course that will create an ethical hacker, you need to know a whole lot of things.

A basic requirement is intense knowledge in two operating systems, Windows and Linux. The former mostly the victim and the latter being the attacker.

Ankit Fadia courses are only a starting step. You will hardly get a good job of your liking with just the AFCET(Ankit Fadia Certiied Ethical Hacker) certification.

My advice to vorazeal would be to study now and get proper educational qualifications, as I believe you must be in you early 20's. Maybe take the AIEEE, look to clear it well.

why dont you apply for a Job? there are a lot of job options for diploma students....also, what you study is not really what you do in the job,so chillout...

as for ethical hacking, i dont think its a good idea...do the rest though...do some more advanced languages too..

Originally Posted by rajan1311

why dont you apply for a Job? there are a lot of job options for diploma students....also, what you study is not really what you do in the job,so chillout...

as for ethical hacking, i dont think its a good idea...do the rest though...do some more advanced languages too..

i've already got a call for job for "System Administrator" its something related to Electronics, but i declined it because i hate it.

And if you see, Ethical Hacker is very highly paid and has UL opportunities, their are 100 Million Web Servers+ and it will rise day by day.

So, this is a good field i suppose.

Originally Posted by vorazeal

And if you see, Ethical Hacker is very highly paid and has UL opportunities, their are 100 Million Web Servers+ and it will rise day by day.

So, this is a good field i suppose.

That is a huge misconception you have. How many so called "ethical hackers" do you know that are very highly paid? and also explain what your definition is for the term "highly paid"

There may be a few people here and there that actually get paid for this sort of stuff but that does not mean that every one who calls him/her self a hacker will be able to find a highly paying job for thier line of work.

Dont just look at 5-6 people who come on new channels and give an impression that its all rosy out there. Its not!

Originally Posted by Admin

That is a huge misconception you have. How many so called "ethical hackers" do you know that are very highly paid? and also explain what your definition is for the term "highly paid"

There may be a few people here and there that actually get paid for this sort of stuff but that does not mean that every one who calls him/her self a hacker will be able to find a highly paying job for thier line of work.

Dont just look at 5-6 people who come on new channels and give an impression that its all rosy out there. Its not!

i am just watching teh messages here.. and thinking about myself..

. all guys here are so advanced.. ethical hacking.. khool..

so much knowledge i am increasing right now..