Thread: does any1 hve face this kind of problem with hathway??

Hi i m tejas using hathway i hve got this kind a problem with hathway which u all might think a bit stupid.
but here i go i hve 256kbps unlimited download connection i can browse websites and download at only 4 to 7kbps but when i m using torrents to download i get around 18 to 25kbps can anyone tell me tht any one else is also facing this kind a problem and one more thing when ever i call them they tell me tht ur 256kbps gets divided while multiple downloads but in my case the speed of 7 kbps gets divided andi get 3.5-3 kbps while multiple downloads this is when i m downloading 2 files simultaneously any help frm experts will be helpful

have you tried using a download accelerator ?

as you said your speeds when using torrents is fine so i would say there is no problem as far as the network is concerned, It may be that the server you downloading from might be slow. The total download speed is a collective result of the server uploading speed and your download speed so either of them can bottleneck it.
Try using any download accelerator and you will be fine.

Originally Posted by Admin

have you tried using a download accelerator ?

as you said your speeds when using torrents is fine so i would say there is not problem as far as the network is concerned, It may be that the server you downloading from might be slow. The total download speed is a collective result of the server uploading speed and your download speed so either of them can bottleneck it.
Try using any download accelerator and you will be fine.

ya i hve tried download accelerators but recently they are giving me around 10 to 15 kbps but wat about browsing i am getting everything its too slow it takes too much time too load ny ways thnxs but i just want to ask anyone else is facing this kind of problems

are u on a proxy server?
may be u must have configured ur browser to use a Proxy Server?

they can slow down ur speeds...

Hello friend,

The very reason I've joined this forum is to expose Hathway's devious schemes and policies.

Im aware of every single truth and insider Truth than anyone on the forum or in India knows them that well.

The plan you are on is a absolutely "fool-ur-customer" plan... Im a CCIE, for most of you who do not know what CCIE is, this is the highest form of Networking Certification anyone can achieve. It's as good a doing your Ph.D in Computer Networking.. anyways, coming to the point...

Your Freeway 256kbps Unlimited plan will never ever give you the speeds they promise, because the truth is that all the important Ports have been firewalled or blocked from their end - so regardless of whichever Internet Speed Boosting softwares or registry tweaks you may apply, you will always get crappy speeds.
Don't even think of using Bittorrent your never gonna get good speeds.

Hathway are such B****** they completely deny this fact and even if you ask them they will tell you that what you heard was wrong... their engineers can't mess with me because they know my educational background. The worst part is these arseholes have blocked the ports so badly that even your web surfing is affected.

^^^^ so is it possible to change the ports which ur browser uses....

coz ofcourse they cant block all ports....

Originally Posted by Dante

^^^^ so is it possible to change the ports which ur browser uses....

coz ofcourse they cant block all ports....

They have blocked a.k.a firewalled ports 49152 upto 65534. This is the port range used by your most 3rd party P2P and other applications.

Web Browsing (HTTP) uses: Port 80
File Transfer Protocol (FTP) uses: Port 21
E-mail POP3 SMTP uses: 25

No ISP will ever firewall the above ports.

You cannot do anything from your PC to bypass the firewall since it has been done from their end.

I will soon start a small free service for our members and you can use it to request any files to be downloaded to a remote server and then you get a download link and you can download from my server.

What I plan is that we can rent a small server with may be a 120 gb harddrive and with unlimited bandwidth with a 10mbps pipe plugged into it which is not bad atall if only 50-100 people use it assuming that not every one is going to download at the same time.

does this make any sense or am i dreaming too much lately?

It is possible.
First download and apply the Links and Download Manager vB addon and speaking of a Good Hosting, try inmotionhosting.com they have cheap dedicated server packages and are rated as Top #3 in Linux Hosting on the web.

Coming towards the point of "Unlimited Bandwidth" this is a very tricky term used by all Hosting providers. There is no such thing as "Unlimited Bandwidth" they presume that a site (depending on its content) is going to use xyz bandwidth per month so they give you 1000GB of data transfer, normally sites dont exceed this limit, unless your a very very busy site. Though they give you unlimited bandwidth, but as soon as your site generates extreme traffic, exceeding the limit, they will contact you to upgrade your plan... mark my words.

I have had dedicated servers in the past and when you get unlimited bandwidth it comes wiht a resctriction like you can get 1mbps connection or 2 or 5 mbps or 10 mbps connection and that is truely unlimited and the only limit that applies is the amount of data a 10mbps pipe can transfer in a month.

so if you get a 100mbps link with a box with good config you got nothign to worry about but that comes with a price.

@admin

it seems to be a good idea...

but one question come to my mind would people really bother to use it?

Admin bhai... this looks good... so wen are u planning to launch ur downloading site....

and wat kinda downloads are allowed...

I just registered here so that i could educate you guys on how to cheat hathwats port blocking and getting full d'l speeds on torrents, emule, etc, also well RavEn, u being a CCIE i thought you know this too, neways.
port 1723 is a PPTP port, which hathway CANNOT block no matter what, as they using cable modem tech, so thats it, just use port 1723 (tcp and udp) on ur torrents/ emule, limewire or any p2p and u have a open port. obv u cant use port 80/8080 etc, cuz they too are stealth ports.
so yeah, 1723 and make ur life simple.
thats it, i have no hangups with hathway, no downtime, speeds are good, torrents work great, hell i download like 1.7 - 2 gb a day with torrents, with the pc on all day. the only prob i got is the limited upload speeds which are only 64kbps, n i'm a major seeder, and its really annoying, they should give you the same up speeds as ur downs,..so yeah they are cons when it comes to this, otherwise alls' good. now waiting for a bigger plan from hathway, maybe 512 or 1mbps, tht should be fun.
i hope this helps u guys.
cya cheers.

hi ppl..
i need 2 know whether hathway offers good uplaod speed.. i mostly deal in torrents.. my current uplaod speed is 9kbps i want it to be around 256-512 kbps i'm goanna choose such a plan in Hathway.. but will they provide tht kinda upload speed?

Airtel isnt available in my area..[hyderabad/lakdikapul]

hoping for a +ve reply Mav..

^ pls see : hathway packages

The upload speed should be better than ADSL .

I am not sure abt reliability of Hathway .
we often see grievances related to Hathway
Internet connection ( Deccan Chronicle -
speak out )

I am Completely Against Raven and all others who criticise Hathway to these extents. I am not a salesman though.

I agree that Hathway does have issues like not responding on time, taking a long time to resolve issues, etc. But I must say hathway does give me very good speeds. These speeds are better than any other ISP i have seen. I get consistent 256kbps on my (256k freeway plan) if i am downloading from appropriate sites. I am not a Rookie. I have been using this connection for 2 years. i use a download meter to measure my speeds (Average speeds and not just peaks). I can provide screenshots which show me getting around 256kbps average.
Over the last two years of usage, i have problems where my internet has been offline for 15 days long once, but these kindof things happen rarely. and since its cable it takes longer to fix issues. (Yes, i agree that they take really long and even i have gotten frustrated with it at times).

Also, Raven, I think ur a bit short of knowledge.
Blocked ports mean, blocked incoming ports. These are blocked to avoid spyware and also commercial use of UL connections. Even airtel blocks in many places. blocking incoming ports does not reduce ur browsing or HTTP downloading speeds. If u think it does, please do a bit of reading before compaining. Blocking port 80 will block you from hosting a webserver (running at port 80) and not from browsing as you think. Please do not complain about that. You can get a business connection if thats ur intention.
Torrent speeds are good if u change ur port to an open port. try PortDetective.Com - Port Detective tells you whats Open, In Use or Blocked to look for open ports. Really it works. i have reached about 30KBps average speeds on bit torrent, i wonder myself how, but thats very rare. Getting 15+ KBps is certainly possible on well seeded torrents.
HTTP Downloads almost always run at 28KBps+ provided from a good server
Uploads speeds are limited to 64KBps and we cant get around that. This will affect torrent downloads, but u can still get satisfactory speeds of 15KBps+ on well seeded torrents.

Doesnt matter if I'm the only one standing for Hathway, but as long as they give me good speeds and the connection doesnt go down often, I do appreciate their service.

Regards,
Pawan

I agree with you! In fact, I was quite surprised to see so many negative comments for hathway.

Is Hathway going to start any new plans or upgrade their old plans with respect to the recent change in Mtnl and Bsnl? Does anyone know anything about a possible upgradation?

@Melody,
I think other larger players like Airtel and Reliance will have to take steps first. Though I wont be surprised if hathway comes up hurriedly with an upgraded package, as they did with Freeway. Well, it was one of the first 256k packages. Also BSNL's quality of Service has to be good enough to actually make these players act.

The problem is that if some one has little trouble he/she comes here and beats the crap out of thier isp's reputation and on the other hand there are people who are more then happy but you will hardly find anyone comming here and posting a good review.

Good to see you stick up for your isp. Hope they continue to provide you guys good service.

Cowax!

Nothing will happen even if you take a connection of 512 kbps. I know at no speed, the exact speed one will get but one third or even below that is really harrasing. I have a 512 kbps speed, the speed is horrible, I am getting the speed @ 100 - 120 kbps. At 512 kbps, the speed is at least expected to be more than 400 kbps but alas I never get. Management at Hathway is the worst - even their sales people who had left Hathway due to this bad management told me several times. They are providing a bad connection - That's not a problem but they don't care about the customers' complaints even. I will surely fight against them - Let the time come.

By the way, Mr.Admin, You would be aware of the fact the customers of Airtel/BSNL etc are much moreeeeeee as compared to Hathway and people are continuously migrating to these companies from Hathway, Have ever thought why? Not because bad speed or bad connnection but because bad customer service. At Billingbangalore , there is nobody who can assist the customer in a single good way and if you contact 40161616 (the paid phone line) , that will be picked up after 4/5 times of complete rings and the person will listen with his deaf ears.

Anyway, I am still a customer as I have made a payment of Rs.3367 in advance for six months.

I will not defend Hathway. I know that there are hathway users who have woes. but let me remind u that None of the ISPs are good that way. DSL is a much more reliable technology. Airtel has atleast 3-4 times not replied my calls to them asking for connection. And inspite of that BSNL has 3 day outages and such. Not that BSNL is worse or anything, but all ISPs generally lack service here. Again, Hathway maybe the worst, but i get consistent 256kbps no matter what all day long and hence i have stayed with them for 2 years, and I guess the opinion of a user from 2 years matters more than someone whos used it lesser.
So it really doesnt matter who says what. As Admin pointed out, only ppl with woes turn up to say how bad their ISP is. Nobody appreciates when something goes well.
i will not also ask ppl to Buy hathway, coz i'm not a salesman and am also aware its not great in all areas. But i would also llike to add, that here in B'lore, the Hathway head office is in HRBR layout. This is to the north east extreme of bangalore, 20 kms from the heart of the city. I stay in Vijaynagar which is the west extreme of the city, which is 10kms from heart. Inspite of it being cable technology, (which means there is a continous wire connection right from their POS to my house with hundreds of Amps and Hubs in between) I face few outages and near 256 speeds at all times. This is an appreciable thing.
theres a serious dearth of rational thinkers

And yes, it may also be pointed out, that ,ost ppl who have been criticising Hathway have only a few posts. though u may feel even i have very few posts, i just thought i must highlight that.

But I will defend, I have suffered so I will. Had you suffered, you would too.

I am having a hathway 512 half yearly blast plan since Jan. I have NEVER received a speed of more than 320 kbps...and dat too is a rare occurence...i have screwed their call centre guys, their executives., their engineers and even their managers like nobody's business..still apparently thats wot those guys get paid for...i have discovered wot a huge scam these asses are tryin to pull off..the speed dat they claim is apparently for http doenloads..which means u probably get a decent speed when u dnld from a webiste..like say download.com However, when using p2p they have blocked all incoming ports...currently i am using 1723 as that one is open..but still i am nt gettin speeds more than 20 kBps or 160 kbps...we shudnt let these guys off so easily...is thr ne1 from pune on this forum who is facing the same issue..plz send me a private message or email me...lets try n do wotever we can..i think these guys wont stop this scam unitl they hear some legal lingo...wot say??

ha ha ha.. Its not legal lingo they need.. It technical lingo that YOU need. Do you even know how P2P works? You cannot crib that your provider doesnt give you good P2P speeds. Its PEER-TO-PEER. You downlaod it from someone else. So if there are no sources, you will never get good speeds. You need to upload to download when using P2P, theres a huge overhead to synchrobnise your download, there garbage data which gets corrupted while tranferring, And there are a hundred more things, which you probably will never know. I think you should go to Network Downloads : NetStat Live /// AnalogX and get a software called Netstat live. Check how much is your network transfers show when you are download from a number of sources on HTTP. If you get anything over 80 percent of 512kbps (kilo bits per send), you should not be complaining. if you still find it as a genuine problem go to their office and talk to them, that generally works. And the more you scream at them, they will only mark you as a grunty customer and stop returning your calls. yes, they are trained for it.

Also do any of you ever read between the lines? These are all shared lines. It says UPTO 512kbps. That way, thje whole thing itself is a scam. A 512kbps self owned leased line costs over 3 lakhs a year. If you have the money buy it else get back to the real world. And yeah all ISPs do this.

thanks for the reply 'pawanrh'!! I probably dnt have a lotta networkin knowledge...but as a reply to ur post..here's wot happened.

I did scream at the manager again...and i DID threaten him abt 'legal action' dat i was plannin...guess wot?? he promised to 'check at his end' and sent an engineer at my place and bingo..yesterday nite i was gettin speeds in excess of 43 kBps..so dude..i guess u shud think abt doin sumthin more than jus sending URL's and laughin at ppl!!
By the by...u think i dnt know that u need good sources for a healthy p2p speed??? how abt this?? 17 seeds, 30 leechers?? that healthy for u??? same torrent gives a cool 29 kBps on a BSNL 256 line!!! and i get a measly 4 kBps...even on multiple dnlds, i get nothin more than 20 kBps usually!!!

Secondly...my neighbor who has jus got a BSNL conn (and hasnt uploaded much btw)..wid a 256 kbps line mind you...gets a healthy speed of 29-32 kBps all the time..so i guess u need to get ur basics rt abt nt gettin proper speeds... i do know dat how much u seed n upload does affect ur dnld speeds bigtime...but my only prob is..if other ISPs can deliver sumthin which is at least reasonably close to wot they promise..then hathway guys hv no excuse..

Moreover...u just lost the plot when u asked me to check how much my networks transfers when i dnld from multiple sources on HTTP....I NEVER COMPLAINED ABT MY HTTP SPEEDS...for a networking superhero..not so much with the reading haan??

and lastly ...it is because of ppl like u who accept wotever rubbish these guys offer dat these ppl are so arrogant...u are kiddin urself whn u talk abt livin in the 'real world'...jus go thr and get ur moneys worth!!! Thats the real world...

PS: Not trying to get back at u or nethin like dat..u cud very well b a networkin guru...jus laying down my case...