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Rameshjeee · 10-13-08, 03:57 PM

HIV - Facts

You people must have got chain mails regarding the story of pani puri wala & the injection in theatre regarding the HIV infection. Those things are not true...Here are some of the HIV facts:

HIV can never survive in any other liquid medium also other than blood or semen (& please for God sake ... never in Pani Puri wala pani)
Even if one drinks an HIV infected blood (or semen) of someone (ingest through Gastro Intestinal track), the virus can not survive in the acidic pH of stomach*. Highest extent of acidity is 0 (practically not possible) so imagine 1 as pH which is in our stomach. (This pH can burn your own finger in less than a second if you dip in that acid).
Exposure of less than 1 second in AIR KILLS the HIV virus* (hence story of needle pricks in Cinema theatres is a crap). Even if blood from a wound (of infected person) dries up (*blood clot*), *the virus dies*and can not infect anyone else
HIV transmission is *ONLY* an *INFECTION* i.e. entrance of virus in one's body. It *DOES NOT MEAN AIDS*.
An HIV-infected person (after entrance of virus) can progress to a condition of AIDS only after *8 to 10 YEARS *(not in 15 days as in the Pani Puri story)
It is *not HIV (virus) that kills a human* ......the virus attacks immune cells (cells that fight against foreign pathogens/antigens) and hence a person's ability to fight against infections & diseases slowly diminishes and person ultimately dies of a disease which could be as simple as TB
Most importantly, HIV is no longer a dreadful disease ... it is "*CHRONIC MANAGEABLE DISEASE*" just like Diabetes or Hypertension.
If there is anything you need to be careful from to prevent HIV is Unsafe sex*, *Blood transfusion* (check before taking) /Blood donation (use sterilized needles only) and any *blood contact during an accident *or so where amount of bleeding is very high.

Awareness about HIV & AIDS also helps us from preventing HIV.

just4kix · 10-13-08, 05:17 PM

Good post. Unfortunately cannot repo you again.

smoothvibes · 10-13-08, 05:30 PM

nice ramesh jee, really a valuable thread but still can not repo you again coz vBulletin rules don't allow

honesty we need to spread this awareness and i have already forwarded this info in mail to all my friends

thanks for sharing

bloodyblade555 · 10-23-08, 01:33 AM

Thank you for this valuable info.... Just repped you for this great post.

Preeti_20 · 10-24-08, 01:34 AM

Great info Ramesh, I'm sure it will help many people in understanding and knowing more about HIV!

itsmemad · 10-24-08, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jee.ramesh1983

HIV - Facts

Even if one drinks an HIV infected blood (or semen) of someone (ingest through Gastro Intestinal track), the virus can not survive in the acidic pH of stomach*. Highest extent of acidity is 0 (practically not possible) so imagine 1 as pH which is in our stomach. (This pH can burn your own finger in less than a second if you dip in that acid).

This is something new info for me...

Quote:

An HIV-infected person (after entrance of virus) can progress to a condition of AIDS only after *8 to 10 YEARS *(not in 15 days as in the Pani Puri story)

But I heard that HIV can convert in AIDS anytime... from 1 yr of HIV infection to 10 or 15 yrs... I mean there is no specific time... and there r few lucky ones who lived HIV+ all their life... but it never turned into AIDS...

Preeti_20 · 10-25-08, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itsmemad

But I heard that HIV can convert in AIDS anytime... from 1 yr of HIV infection to 10 or 15 yrs... I mean there is no specific time... and there r few lucky ones who lived HIV+ all their life... but it never turned into AIDS...

Thats something that i heard on tv and read about too!

10-25-08, 12:45 AM

That was very informative ramesh !

But did you have to quote such explicit examples such as Drinking HIV infected blood ! ! ! !
GROUSE

StarK · 10-26-08, 02:04 AM

i have come across these points some 2yrs ago and remembrd each of the points distinctly.. thx for postin here ramesh...

Punch Farce · 10-26-08, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN

That was very informative ramesh !

But did you have to quote such explicit examples such as Drinking HIV infected blood ! ! ! !
GROUSE

Yes, good info Ramesh.

But regarding drinking blood, there is a risk, most people have
minute lesions or sores in the mouth and throat and the virus
can get into the blood stream this way. Not that anyone here
is going to rush and drink some hiv blood ;-)

-F

10-26-08, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by farce

Yes, good info Ramesh.

But regarding drinking blood, there is a risk, most people have
minute lesions or sores in the mouth and throat and the virus
can get into the blood stream this way. Not that anyone here
is going to rush and drink some hiv blood ;-)

-F

Or any blood for that matter .....

IMO HIV effects only a species of monkey and Human ..... I dont think anybody likes to drink Blood of either here

?

Punch Farce · 10-26-08, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN

Or any blood for that matter .....

IMO HIV effects only a species of monkey and Human ..... I dont think anybody likes to drink Blood of either here

?

maybe not in real life, but we could make a movie where the
villain gets some hiv blood, mixes it in a drink and gives it
to the unsuspecting hero? maybe give the hero some
sugarcane before that?

-F

10-29-08, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by farce

maybe not in real life, but we could make a movie where the
villain gets some hiv blood, mixes it in a drink and gives it
to the unsuspecting hero? maybe give the hero some
sugarcane before that?

-F

You have got a devious mind

.... I hope nobody allows u near their movie sets

BTW : Your name starts with F i guess ?

Punch Farce · 10-29-08, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShAdOwCoN

You have got a devious mind

.... I hope nobody allows u near their movie sets

BTW : Your name starts with F i guess ?

* Thank you

* I do plan on directing a movie in the distant future, looking for financiers ;-)

* You are correct

-F

Mr.Tooth Fairy · 10-30-08, 02:41 AM

HIV is in context with name of the virus. --Human immunodeficiency virus (HIV)
where as AIDS is a syndrome or a conditiobn caused by HIV --Acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS)

basically it is a multisystem disease.. and as above ppl told is related to immune system...

Early symtoms shows flu-like symptoms gradually symptoms like:

* chronic yeast infections or thrush (yeast infection of the mouth)
* Fever and/or night sweats
* Easy bruising
* Bouts of extreme exhaustion
* Unexplained body rashes
* Appearance of purplish lesions on the skin or inside mouth
* Sudden unexplained weight loss
* Chronic diarrhea lasting for a month or more

HIV virus basically affects/attacks WBC (white blood corpuscles) and lymphocytes... those are the first line of defence in our body use to protect our body against infection..

Once the HIV virus is injected enters the blood.. through circulatory system and demenishes the body's system...

In simple words u can tell tht body is more prone to infection...

Gradually the body's defence mechanism shatters to such low level that even a small infection may become a big thing in the body and show their profound effects...

As the disease progresses.. gradually the other systems of our body starts affecting..

skin leasons, respiratory disease, blood dyscarysis, digestive system, hepatic system, including liver gets affected...

hence it leads to multi system failure to a last extent..

Full blown HIV/AIDS include :

This list includes, but is not limited to:

* Kaposi's Sarcoma
* Pulmonary tuberculosis
* Candidiasis of the esophagus, trachea, bronchi or lungs
* Toxoplasmosis of the brain
* Severe bacterial infections
* Invasive cervical cancer
* Lymphoma
* Recurrent pneumonia

Additionally, vision loss, nerve damage and brain impairment can also occur. Signs of brain deterioration include troubles thinking, loss of co-ordination and balance and behavioral changes.

While there are treatments to help prolong the life of those infected with the AIDS virus, there is currently no AIDS cure. The best way to protect yourself is by taking preventative measures.

HIV virus mainly spreads through unprotected sex and from mother to child... few cases noted HIV spreads from breast feeding, even few cases showed HIV spreads by saliva but very rarely (not proved).

AIDS mainly spreads through following:
* Needle risk (use of non sterile needles, using same needles for multiple persons!)

* Blood contact
- Wash hands thoroughly with soap and warm water both before and after a procedure
-Always use protective barriers (i.e. latex gloves, masks) when you are in direct contact with bodily fluids including blood
-If possible, always use new, single-use disposable needles and syringes for all injections. Safely dispose of this injection equipment immediately after use.

If you think you may have come into contact with an infected person's blood, it is a good idea to go for HIV testing.

* Mother to child
-During pregnancy
- Breast feeding

*SEX

@@@@@@@@ STAY SAFE , BE SAFE!!@@@@@@@@@@
AND ALSO PLAY SAFE!!!

cableguy · 10-30-08, 02:53 AM

Also currently Antiretroviral drugs are the most effect way of managing HIV.

Quote:

This is the main type of treatment for HIV or AIDS. It is not a cure, but it can stop people from becoming ill for many years. The treatment consists of drugs that have to be taken every day for the rest of a person’s life.

The aim of antiretroviral treatment is to keep the amount of HIV in the body at a low level. This stops any weakening of the immune system and allows it to recover from any damage that HIV might have caused already.

The drugs are often referred to as:

* antiretrovirals
* anti-HIV or anti-AIDS drugs
* HIV antiviral drugs
* ARVs

Full article at: Introduction to HIV and AIDS treatment

also about HIV testing

Quote:

Though a person who is infected with HIV will become infectious themselves very rapidly (within a day or so), they will normally have to wait a while before an HIV test will produce an accurate result. The length of time a person should wait before taking an HIV test will depend on the type of test they are taking.

In the vast majority of cases, the standard test that will be offered at an HIV testing centre will be an HIV antibody test. The HIV antibody test looks for antibodies to the virus in a person's blood. For most people these antibodies take 6 weeks to 3 months to develop. In rare cases, it can take up to 6 months. It is extremely rare for a person to take any longer then 6 months to develop detectable antibodies.

Getting tested before 3 months have elapsed may result in an unclear test result, as an infected person may not yet have developed antibodies to HIV. These 3 months are known as the 'window period'. So it is best to wait for at least 3 months after the last time you were at risk before taking the test. Some test centres may recommend testing again at 6 months, just to be extra sure, though in most cases this is not necessary.

If you are waiting to take an HIV antibody test, it is vital that you do not put yourself at risk through further exposures to HIV during this time period. This means you should practise safe sex and not share needles. Any further exposure to HIV may mean an negative HIV test result is not accurate (unless of course you wait another three months after this exposure).

The vast majority of HIV tests that are given in clinics are antibody tests, though other types of test may be available in some clinics.

Full article at: HIV testing Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)

Mr.Tooth Fairy · 10-30-08, 02:59 AM

pl dont just copy paste material.. i guess forums are for spreading our own knoledge rather than googling it pasting from other sites to ere.. i think ppl can take reference but it shuld be more directed towards personal views, personal thinking and their experience , knowingness....

for googling it there is everythin u can get on net... then there would be no need of forums...

i hope u dont take it personally... just a friendly request.. post it in your way.. write it in the way tht after the thread is out ... ppl come ere after us finds it more interesting and informative.. pl dont copy paste...

what u say other guys?? advise me too if i am wrong in COPY n PASTE matter.......

cheers..

cableguy · 10-30-08, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Tooth Fairy

i hope u dont take it personally... just a friendly request.. post it in your way.. write it in the way tht after the thread is out ... ppl come ere after us finds it more interesting and informative.. pl dont copy paste...

what u say other guys?? advise me too if i am wrong in COPY n PASTE matter.......

cheers..

I don't like to copy & paste either, but I felt this was important information to be shared, so just in this case

Also the text I quoted is written pretty well and I didn't want to mangle it up with my writing.

Mr.Tooth Fairy · 10-30-08, 03:16 AM

basicaly just make your post or replies neat... less referal LINKs more descriprion in YOUR OWN WORDS.... quotation i think better to write directly... its more readable.. i guess... quote is generally preferred for what ppl have posted before,, for original post...i think quote looses its charm.. well this is all my own thinking.. u be as u want.. unless u do something really wrong we ppl have no problem.. chao.. enjoy

itsmemad · 10-30-08, 07:00 AM

Its alright to google & share that info. here... We aren't submitting assignments in our college where originality is gonna fetch us more marks... And cableguy did it pretty well by quoting the text here...

10-13-08, 03:57 PM	#1
Rameshjeee Aadhavan is Coming Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Leaving Chennai Age: 26 Posts: 3,075 Rep Power: 10	HIV - Facts HIV - Facts You people must have got chain mails regarding the story of pani puri wala & the injection in theatre regarding the HIV infection. Those things are not true...Here are some of the HIV facts: HIV can never survive in any other liquid medium also other than blood or semen (& please for God sake ... never in Pani Puri wala pani) Even if one drinks an HIV infected blood (or semen) of someone (ingest through Gastro Intestinal track), the virus can not survive in the acidic pH of stomach. Highest extent of acidity is 0 (practically not possible) so imagine 1 as pH which is in our stomach. (This pH can burn your own finger in less than a second if you dip in that acid). Exposure of less than 1 second in AIR KILLS the HIV virus (hence story of needle pricks in Cinema theatres is a crap). Even if blood from a wound (of infected person) dries up (blood clot), the virus diesand can not infect anyone else HIV transmission is ONLY an INFECTION i.e. entrance of virus in one's body. It DOES NOT MEAN AIDS. An HIV-infected person (after entrance of virus) can progress to a condition of AIDS only after 8 to 10 YEARS (not in 15 days as in the Pani Puri story) It is not HIV (virus) that kills a human ......the virus attacks immune cells (cells that fight against foreign pathogens/antigens) and hence a person's ability to fight against infections & diseases slowly diminishes and person ultimately dies of a disease which could be as simple as TB Most importantly, HIV is no longer a dreadful disease ... it is "CHRONIC MANAGEABLE DISEASE" just like Diabetes or Hypertension. If there is anything you need to be careful from to prevent HIV is Unsafe sex, Blood transfusion* (check before taking) /Blood donation (use sterilized needles only) and any blood contact during an accident or so where amount of bleeding is very high. Awareness about HIV & AIDS also helps us from preventing HIV.

10-30-08, 02:41 AM	#15
Mr.Tooth Fairy Platinum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: oral cavity:D Posts: 1,546 Rep Power: 5	HIV is in context with name of the virus. --Human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) where as AIDS is a syndrome or a conditiobn caused by HIV --Acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS) basically it is a multisystem disease.. and as above ppl told is related to immune system... Early symtoms shows flu-like symptoms gradually symptoms like: * chronic yeast infections or thrush (yeast infection of the mouth) * Fever and/or night sweats * Easy bruising * Bouts of extreme exhaustion * Unexplained body rashes * Appearance of purplish lesions on the skin or inside mouth * Sudden unexplained weight loss * Chronic diarrhea lasting for a month or more HIV virus basically affects/attacks WBC (white blood corpuscles) and lymphocytes... those are the first line of defence in our body use to protect our body against infection.. Once the HIV virus is injected enters the blood.. through circulatory system and demenishes the body's system... In simple words u can tell tht body is more prone to infection... Gradually the body's defence mechanism shatters to such low level that even a small infection may become a big thing in the body and show their profound effects... As the disease progresses.. gradually the other systems of our body starts affecting.. skin leasons, respiratory disease, blood dyscarysis, digestive system, hepatic system, including liver gets affected... hence it leads to multi system failure to a last extent.. Full blown HIV/AIDS include : This list includes, but is not limited to: * Kaposi's Sarcoma * Pulmonary tuberculosis * Candidiasis of the esophagus, trachea, bronchi or lungs * Toxoplasmosis of the brain * Severe bacterial infections * Invasive cervical cancer * Lymphoma * Recurrent pneumonia Additionally, vision loss, nerve damage and brain impairment can also occur. Signs of brain deterioration include troubles thinking, loss of co-ordination and balance and behavioral changes. While there are treatments to help prolong the life of those infected with the AIDS virus, there is currently no AIDS cure. The best way to protect yourself is by taking preventative measures. HIV virus mainly spreads through unprotected sex and from mother to child... few cases noted HIV spreads from breast feeding, even few cases showed HIV spreads by saliva but very rarely (not proved). AIDS mainly spreads through following: * Needle risk (use of non sterile needles, using same needles for multiple persons!) * Blood contact - Wash hands thoroughly with soap and warm water both before and after a procedure -Always use protective barriers (i.e. latex gloves, masks) when you are in direct contact with bodily fluids including blood -If possible, always use new, single-use disposable needles and syringes for all injections. Safely dispose of this injection equipment immediately after use. If you think you may have come into contact with an infected person's blood, it is a good idea to go for HIV testing. * Mother to child -During pregnancy - Breast feeding *SEX @@@@@@@@ STAY SAFE , BE SAFE!!@@@@@@@@@@ AND ALSO PLAY SAFE!!! Last edited by Mr.Tooth Fairy; 10-30-08 at 03:21 AM.

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10-13-08, 05:17 PM	#2
just4kix Platinum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 8,899 Blog Entries: 6 Rep Power: 19	Good post. Unfortunately cannot repo you again.

10-13-08, 05:30 PM	#3
smoothvibes Aditya Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: New Delhi/ London Posts: 4,914 Rep Power: 11	nice ramesh jee, really a valuable thread but still can not repo you again coz vBulletin rules don't allow honesty we need to spread this awareness and i have already forwarded this info in mail to all my friends thanks for sharing

10-23-08, 01:33 AM	#4
bloodyblade555 Bronze Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chennai/TN Age: 18 Posts: 130 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 2	Thank you for this valuable info.... Just repped you for this great post.

10-24-08, 01:34 AM	#5
Preeti_20 Platinum Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: In my Castle Posts: 3,280 Rep Power: 7	Great info Ramesh, I'm sure it will help many people in understanding and knowing more about HIV!

10-25-08, 12:45 AM	#8
ShAdOwCoN Guest Posts: n/a	That was very informative ramesh ! But did you have to quote such explicit examples such as Drinking HIV infected blood ! ! ! ! GROUSE

10-26-08, 02:04 AM	#9
StarK Platinum Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nayi Dilli Posts: 1,392 Rep Power: 4	i have come across these points some 2yrs ago and remembrd each of the points distinctly.. thx for postin here ramesh...

10-30-08, 02:59 AM	#17
Mr.Tooth Fairy Platinum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: oral cavity:D Posts: 1,546 Rep Power: 5	pl dont just copy paste material.. i guess forums are for spreading our own knoledge rather than googling it pasting from other sites to ere.. i think ppl can take reference but it shuld be more directed towards personal views, personal thinking and their experience , knowingness.... for googling it there is everythin u can get on net... then there would be no need of forums... i hope u dont take it personally... just a friendly request.. post it in your way.. write it in the way tht after the thread is out ... ppl come ere after us finds it more interesting and informative.. pl dont copy paste... what u say other guys?? advise me too if i am wrong in COPY n PASTE matter....... cheers..

10-30-08, 03:16 AM	#19
Mr.Tooth Fairy Platinum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: oral cavity:D Posts: 1,546 Rep Power: 5	basicaly just make your post or replies neat... less referal LINKs more descriprion in YOUR OWN WORDS.... quotation i think better to write directly... its more readable.. i guess... quote is generally preferred for what ppl have posted before,, for original post...i think quote looses its charm.. well this is all my own thinking.. u be as u want.. unless u do something really wrong we ppl have no problem.. chao.. enjoy

10-30-08, 07:00 AM	#20
itsmemad Alligator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Pleasure drome Posts: 3,514 Rep Power: 10	Its alright to google & share that info. here... We aren't submitting assignments in our college where originality is gonna fetch us more marks... And cableguy did it pretty well by quoting the text here...

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