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    Details : Satyam chief Raju resigns, admits Rs 7,000 cr fraud

    well i was in on my trading terminal as usual & suddenly the market start falling........it took me abt 5 mins to discover this news causing market fall aling with another news: is Indian PMs ultimatum to pak (nothing new borinnggggg)
    . I was just wondering if any one here holding satyam in portfolio.......i once used to....but that was like a year ago.....

    Free tip from meh side : 0 is a very very strong support for the satyam...... so buy as much u can coz it will never fall below 0 under any condition.

    well that was joke.....but as always a common ordinary investor is loosing the money......i feel very sorry for the ppl in the stocks.....becoz of such a things common ppl never gain faith in stocks market which is very pathetic....

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    yaa one of my friend was telling me about this raju and styam case last nite :sad:

    the main things which i still remember are
    satyam
    worldbank
    fraud
    7 years ban

    would you like add something new in my knowledgebase `

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    Satyam shares opened @ Rs 179.10 @ the begining of the day. Today's lowest was Rs 30.70. & currently its trading @ 39.80 (-77.78%).
    Note: All BSE data.

    Also find the letter attached,which Raju had send to the Board of Directors.

    In a letter to the board of directors, Raju states that Satyam’s balance sheet as on Sep 30, 2008, carries an inflated (non-existent) cash and bank balances of Rs 5,040 crore (as against Rs 5,361 reflected in the books).

    Further, it carries an accrued interest of Rs 376 crore which is non-existent.

    An understated liability of Rs 1,230 crore on account of funds arranged by me. An over stated debtors position of Rs 490 crore (as against Rs 2,651 crore in the books).

    For the second quarter ended Sep 30, 2008, the company reported a revenue of Rs 2,700 crore and an operating margin of Rs 649 crore (24% of revenues) as against the actual revenues of Rs 2,112 crore and an actual operating margin of Rs 61 crore (3% of revenues). This has resulted in artificial cash and bank balances going up by Rs 588 crore in the second quarter alone.

    The letter further states that the gap in the balance sheet has arisen purely on account of inflated profits over a period of last several years (limited only to Satyam standalone, books of subsidiaries reflecting true performance). What started as a marginal gap between actual operating profit and the one reflected in the books of accounts continued to grow over the years. It has attained unmanageable proportions as the size of company operations grew significantly (annualised revenue run rate of Rs 11,276 crore in the September quarter of 2008 and official reserves of Rs 8,392 crore)

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    i got this on a mail as well today....!!!!

    damn.....i really wonder whts gonna happen?

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    See attached letter by Raju ...

    (unfortunately PDF limit is 20 KB .. so had to zip it).
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    It appears that Anil Ambani is interested in Satyam and so is M&M.

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    hmmmm wait n watch ......

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    Tech Mahindra is not looking to buy it.

    I started buying when satyam touched 70 and have bought a lot of it now averaging at around 59

    Looks like I am in for a royal screw

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    Unedited open letter from Satyam interim CEO Ram Mynampati

    From: Ram Mynampati
    Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:05 PM
    To: SatyamAssociates (Global)
    Subject: Open communication : Today's developments
    Importance: High

    Dear colleagues

    I write this mail to update you on some critical Board and Leadership level changes in our company, effective immediately. A series of extremely unfortunate events led to this, which I am sure you have seen covered in the media over the past few hours.

    A SWAT team consisting of senior leaders has been formed. Many of them are Satyam veterans with a minimum of ten years experience in our company and more than twenty years in the industry. I have been requested to play the role of an Interim CEO and this team will support me, as we steer Satyam through this challenging phase. These are the leaders on the ground and have always had the final call on most customer and associate related matters in the company, so far. This team has committed to work together, to make it happen. The SWAT team represents all Customer Facing units, key Horizontal Competency Units and critical Support Units.

    Over the past twenty one years, with your passion and commitment we have built significant customer assets, formidable service offerings, excellent delivery processes and scalable support systems. Satyam has been consistently acknowledged for our leadership bandwidth and has a demonstrated reputation for collaborative functioning. Our renowned Full Life Cycle (FLC) model encouraged 'Distributed and Empowered' leadership and prepared us for all situations. This is the time when we have to apply it in real life. What we have been trained for, we will now put to work. Let us continue to handle our respective areas with total autonomy, freedom and control. This is as good a time, as any, to remind ourselves that we have been acknowledged as being amongst the top three Best Employers in India by Hewitt and Mercer in independent surveys in 2007 and American Society of Training & Development (ASTD) named us as the best globally, for our Learning practices - the first company outside USA to be ever awarded this honor. Satyam continues to have everything that is fundamentally required for its success - a strong customer base and a committed universe of approx 53,000 associates.

    What we are confronted with is the challenge of continuing our business operations, seamlessly. We will need your involvement and ideas to make it happen. This might involve even more effort at every level, in the near term. This is the time to prove to the world that we are united and will succeed in overcoming the challenges.

    This quarter will be tumultuous for us. Rumors will abound and it would be fair to assume that competition will try and leverage it to their advantage. As a proactive measure, we have formed fully empowered Cross Functional Teams, headed by seasoned leaders in the respective areas, to address pan-organizational issues like Delivery Excellence, Customer & Associate Retention, Pipeline Management, Cost Controls, Collections etc. You have helped to build Satyam to be what it is today - and we believe that this cannot be allowed to fail, at any cost. I am confident that I can count on your continued support as I commit to our customers that we will ensure deliverables and commitments are serviced.

    On behalf of our new leadership team, I apologize to you for the uncertainty and inconvenience that this incident has caused to you and your families. I assure you that we will emerge stronger, because of this. Increased focus on transparency at all levels, integrity and ethical functioning will be ensured. I want you to stand confidently in front of your families and friends and say that we will now be a better company and that we shall soon be a successful case study of how organizations have turned over a new leaf.

    We will be conducting "U Speak" (our Meet-the-Leadership sessions) in each city in India starting next week and will have numerous Webinars to address associates in various countries. We will be meeting many of our customers in person over the next two weeks and will meet those of you onsite, at that time. In these sessions, we will explain to you what happened and articulate the actions that are being taken to retain your confidence in our company.

    Let us fight this battle together. I am confident that we will emerge stronger, TOGETHER.

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    what are you saying admin hmy:

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    Satyam may be removed from Sensex, Nifty: Analysts

    Satyam Computers may be removed from the sensex and nifty following the revelation of manipulation in the company's accounts.

    A senior analyst with India Infoline, a large brokerage house said his firm has immediately stopped covering Satyam and many other brokerage houses are also expected to do the same. There will not be any investor interest in the company anyway. The company may be removed from sensex and nifty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    Tech Mahindra is not looking to buy it.

    I started buying when satyam touched 70 and have bought a lot of it now averaging at around 59

    Looks like I am in for a royal screw
    llooks like u r already in da mess......

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    Satyam may be removed from Sensex, Nifty: Analysts

    Satyam Computers may be removed from the sensex and nifty following the revelation of manipulation in the company's accounts.

    A senior analyst with India Infoline, a large brokerage house said his firm has immediately stopped covering Satyam and many other brokerage houses are also expected to do the same. There will not be any investor interest in the company anyway. The company may be removed from sensex and nifty.
    well whts da point now????

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    Pietersen resigns as England captain......
    Today is the day of resignations.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    I started buying when satyam touched 70 and have bought a lot of it now averaging at around 59
    I too thought of buying it around 65, but ultimately bought JP Associate. but that one too dipped today, somehow I managed to keep an average around 75.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rameshjeee View Post
    Satyam may be removed from Sensex, Nifty: Analysts
    Will there be any pay back to the investors and on what basis? any idea..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manish View Post
    Will there be any pay back to the investors and on what basis? any idea..
    No idea about that....I am not into shares & stocks....

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    which one you're holding up

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    Satyam may be India's Enron.....

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    which one you're holding up

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    I think SEBI shud immediately remove it form F&O & shud put it under 5 % ckt........this will definately stop the sharp fall in the stock...

    & abt the takeover of the satyam.......i think if some strongcorporate is taking over the satyam......then the price will go up like crazy.......this always happen.......market has no logic for prices falling or gaining......in short term everything is chaos.....

    lastly........dont ever think of buying fresh satyam stock......the ppl always look at the price & ignores the things like fundamentals......the price in such coniditions vary merely by the rhumors related to stocks....& no one can guesss/predict rhumors. So its always a wise idea to stay away from such stocks, atleast my experience with stocks in last 3 years telling me that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rameshjeee View Post
    oh you said you said you are not into stock, i missed "not", sorry.

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    After taking into account the fraud that happened and assuming that there is nothing else under the carpet the fair value of Satyam comes to Rs16-18 per share in the present scnario and the operating margin being what that ass names raju disclosed is only around 2% so that would mean the stock can go to hell in a day or two My guess is that satyam is gonna touch Rs10 and will be very volatile

    I am not selling and will start buying again if it plunges furthur ... hopefully it would get down to Rs10-11 levels and I would be able to lower my average price

    Rama linga raju should spend the rest of his life in Jail... and should be made to do hard labour all his life.

    The whole family is corrupt.

    Now the question is if Satyam's operating margin has been so low how come Infosys and Tcs show fat operating margins? Are we in for a few more surprises?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    I am not selling and will start buying again if it plunges furthur ... hopefully it would get down to Rs10-11 levels and I would be able to lower my average price
    that's a right move Best of Luck:thumbup1:

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    I just heard that first global is predicting the satyam target as 0 Rs.......as its the biggest scam in the coporate in india......other houses are predicting target arnd 25 Rs......lets see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    Now the question is if Satyam's operating margin has been so low how come Infosys and Tcs show fat operating margins? Are we in for a few more surprises?
    i too wonder about it.
    i simply doubt about the corporate governance of these IT and realty sector companies.

    I expect some more bad news come in tail with satyam.

    i very much doubt management of DLF.
    Anybody have a view in this.

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    It official now, Satyam will be out from Sensex and nifty from Jan 12

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logik View Post
    I just heard that first global is predicting the satyam target as 0 Rs.......as its the biggest scam in the coporate in india......other houses are predicting target arnd 25 Rs......lets see.
    I calculated Satyam's value after discounting the disclosed fraud and assuming there is nothing else and it comes to around Rs18 Dont know how some one can claim a target of Rs25 It would go well below 18 before setteling at around 18 for the medium term and thats if they dont loose any clients... hell would break loose on satyam if even one major client announces termination of their client and in that situation Satyam can trade below Rs10 for a long long time.

    Raju should be made to pull rikshaw at chandani chonk to pay off investors losses all his life... I would be the first on to hire his rikshaw.

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