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    Hi guys, i have a simple question. If u go online to sites from Dell, Acer, Hp, Apple any brand, if u check the rates as in US in $$ n convert it to Indian currency than it will be always cheaper. Contrary if u check the rates in any shop in India or even if online for India.. it will be costly.

    Y is this diffrence?? if its the matter of slight difference than understood. but the difference is large.

    Right now i m bit confused. Like i am going to US. I need a pc at home. Now i m thinking whether i should buy a new desktop for home and take my present laptop to US??

    But when i checked the prices for US.. i mean i can get a decent laptop for 600$ i mean a config of 4gb ram and 250 to 500 gb HDD, dual core processor, web cam, card reader n blue tooth inbuild.

    I guess the config is pretty ok.. all we can say is approx costing only 30k rupees.. i think a desktop even can cost minimum of 25k decent one.

    Comments and adivses please.....


    P S... is there gonna be a big difference between dual core and core 2 duo if i buy any of the one??

    My main usage if i will get the above config laptop ... will be little of gaming, songs, movies, internet... etc etc.. not more than this.. so processors where does they play role exactly? can anyone tell me in detail?? i have checked .. most of the laptops in Dell in this or lesser than this range of money will have Dual core and not core 2 duo processors..

    if selecting core 2 duo it will be approx more than 5 to 6 thousand more.. is it worth spending this much extra??? where actual real difference comes in usage??
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    maybe it is more expensive in India due to customs and duties.

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    well i think there also ppl pay tax
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Tooth Fairy View Post
    well i think there also ppl pay tax
    I wasn't talking about taxes. When you import stuff into India
    you pay duty + tax etc. In US only Tax is applicable.

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    p.s you can go to New Hampshire and buy a laptop and you
    won't even have that sales tax ;-)

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    well...i think its like importing is something tht u dont get in India and u specially get it or order it from out side, but considering laptops only.. i think dell/ acer/ hp atleast this all companies have mfg in india.. wat import duty u talking? can u please explain...

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    I don't think it is Dell, Acer etc. that impose this. It is the
    government of India which is collecting the duties.
    I am not sure if the laptops are manufactured in India.
    I think they are manufactured in China or something?

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    New Hampshire is one of the few states in the USA
    which does not have sales tax on items purchased there.

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    If you choose to buy a laptop in the U.S., make it sure to get/purchase an International Warranty there itself... So that, you can avail the services in India too...

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    aare.. thts fine.. i will be getting international warranty for my new laptop.. but my mmajor point was y its cheaper comparatively to India..



    @ farce, i think the parts may be manifactured in different countries but assembeled in India also..

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    As far a i know, no brand has manufacturing plant in india. all are made in china and brought here. the rate difference is due to the duties levied by govt. every budget you can here they saying govt has reduced excise duty on lcd panel, tv etc. etc. this means the cost of such item will be reduced.

    I remember reading somewhere the coca-cola chief saying that if the govt reduces the duty charged to cola, they can offer 330 ml for less than Rs.5 (Three four years back when the actual cost was Rs.10)

    Govt needs money and it decides whom to tax more. as far as india is concerned laptop is still not an essential commodity. govt gives subsidy for petrol, diesel, lpg etc for the usage of all people across the cross section of population and more money is charged on non essential and luxurious item.

    You can see cheaper rates for laptop is applicable only in the us. in uk i think its more than that of india. so don't break ur head on that. get one laptop from us with no hesitation.

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    OK. Please do not use SMS text short form words.

    The price in India is costly because the laptop is completely imported and not assembled in India. Items imported attact:

    a) Shipping charges (at the port of origin)
    b) Handling charges (at the port of destination)
    c) Customs Duty on Base Cost + (a) + (b)
    d) Any other local tax at the destination port on {Base Cost + (a) + (b) + (c)}

    After that, the dealer adds the margin. Then there is local shipping cost and Octroi (in case of MH state). To this add VAT (Sales Tax).

    I hope that you get the picture now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by just4kix View Post
    OK. Please do not use SMS text short form words.

    The price in India is costly because the laptop is completely imported and not assembled in India. Items imported attact:

    a) Shipping charges (at the port of origin)
    b) Handling charges (at the port of destination)
    c) Customs Duty on Base Cost + (a) + (b)
    d) Any other local tax at the destination port on {Base Cost + (a) + (b) + (c)}

    After that, the dealer adds the margin. Then there is local shipping cost and Octroi (in case of MH state). To this add VAT (Sales Tax).

    I hope that you get the picture now.

    yes kixxi.. i got it.. thanks for the decent responce.....

    Quote Originally Posted by nisant666 View Post
    As far a i know, no brand has manufacturing plant in india. all are made in china and brought here. the rate difference is due to the duties levied by govt. every budget you can here they saying govt has reduced excise duty on lcd panel, tv etc. etc. this means the cost of such item will be reduced.

    I remember reading somewhere the coca-cola chief saying that if the govt reduces the duty charged to cola, they can offer 330 ml for less than Rs.5 (Three four years back when the actual cost was Rs.10)

    Govt needs money and it decides whom to tax more. as far as india is concerned laptop is still not an essential commodity. govt gives subsidy for petrol, diesel, lpg etc for the usage of all people across the cross section of population and more money is charged on non essential and luxurious item.

    You can see cheaper rates for laptop is applicable only in the us. in uk i think its more than that of india. so don't break ur head on that. get one laptop from us with no hesitation.

    all the best

    do u think asking a question , or query or doubts or even discussing a topic is wat u call BREAKING HEAD???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Tooth Fairy View Post
    yes kixxi.. i got it.. thanks for the decent responce.....




    do u think asking a question , or query or doubts or even discussing a topic is wat u call BREAKING HEAD???
    lol thanks gawd he dint say breaking teeth :-P

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    You are being too hard on nisant666.

    When he said, don't break your head, what he meant was don't think too much or over-analyze the situation; just go ahead with the buy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Tooth Fairy View Post
    PS... is there gonna be a big difference between dual core and core 2 duo if i buy any of the one??
    It depends on the kind of work u will be performing.If u use it just for internet surfing, get dual core n save ur movey, else, if u need performance, better to got for a Core 2 duo.

    Also, what J4K said is totally correct. But, i wanna add some more too.

    I was working with HP here, we spoke about their DV6 series. A vairant comes with an AMD processor costs abt 45k. A variant which comes with an intel processor is 63k. Rest of the parts are same. Jusr 18k for an mid range processor. The processor, when got alone is $200 (Rs10k). Do not forget the fact that ur replacing an AMD processor too. So, cost wise, only a diff of 6k max. But they charge u 18k(instead of 6k). Problem, HP's main rival,Dell(with due respect for lenovo and acer) has their XPS series in that range. So, even if they can place it at a lower cost, they do not have any need to make it cheaper. Simply lack of any kind of competition(at such price range).

    But, at lower level, where acer is gr8, prices are pretty good and close(at netbook at nettop level). I hope u got my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Tooth Fairy View Post
    yes kixxi.. i got it.. thanks for the decent responce.....




    do u think asking a question , or query or doubts or even discussing a topic is wat u call BREAKING HEAD???
    It's just an expression, means don't worry about that decision too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nisant666 View Post
    I remember reading somewhere the coca-cola chief saying that if the govt reduces the duty charged to cola, they can offer 330 ml for less than Rs.5 (Three four years back when the actual cost was Rs.10
    Ya thats true in UK coca-cola is cheaper than Water.
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    Its not only laptops...gaming consoles,etc.

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    The US is the cheapest place to buy Electronics. Period.

    The only issue is with the 110V/60Hz electricals for some items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by just4kix View Post
    The US is the cheapest place to buy Electronics. Period.

    The only issue is with the 110V/60Hz electricals for some items.
    Why only some items? as far as I know all electrical items work there only on 110 V/60 Hz. Also the pin in their power cords wont fit into th sockets in India. But you can always buy an adapter both for the voltage transformation from 110 to 220 V and also for the pin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kangaroo View Post
    Why only some items? as far as I know all electrical items work there only on 110 V/60 Hz. Also the pin in their power cords wont fit into th sockets in India. But you can always buy an adapter both for the voltage transformation from 110 to 220 V and also for the pin.
    Correct.

    But what I meant was some of the items such as iPods/iPhones, MP3 players, laptops, etc. have universal adapters. So it is not an issue with such items.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kangaroo View Post
    Why only some items? as far as I know all electrical items work there only on 110 V/60 Hz. Also the pin in their power cords wont fit into th sockets in India. But you can always buy an adapter both for the voltage transformation from 110 to 220 V and also for the pin.
    What's the price for voltage transformation adapter that you've mentioned so that US devices will work in our 220-50Hz voltage range ?

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    We get these in India for Rs. 350 to Rs. 450 depending upon the wattage. Available in any electrical shop. Just ask for voltage transformer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by just4kix View Post
    The US is the cheapest place to buy Electronics.
    I thought it was China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Tooth Fairy View Post
    P S... is there gonna be a big difference between dual core and core 2 duo if i buy any of the one??

    My main usage if i will get the above config laptop ... will be little of gaming, songs, movies, internet... etc etc.. not more than this.. so processors where does they play role exactly? can anyone tell me in detail?? i have checked .. most of the laptops in Dell in this or lesser than this range of money will have Dual core and not core 2 duo processors..

    if selecting core 2 duo it will be approx more than 5 to 6 thousand more.. is it worth spending this much extra??? where actual real difference comes in usage??
    Intel Pentium Dual Core and Core 2 Duo, both of them are Dual core processor. Physically it's one single processor but virtually there are two cores in single Die. 95% they are identical, 5% reserve for Core 2 Duo processor for it's Cache memory. As per my knowledge PDC have 1MB L2 Cache while C2D is having 2MB L2 Cache.

    Intel Dual core is First Generation Dual Core processor while Intel Core 2 Duo is Second Generation Processor. Intel Core 2 Duo (C2D) is more efficient for multithreading applications. You can see the difference if you are using Video Editing Application, Photoshop, Gaming etc. Games like Cache Memory.

    I would suggest to go for C2D

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaishaliv View Post
    I thought it was China.
    china is cheapest in production cost.

    nilact all what you said is true(98%), but, pentium dual core and dual core are different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by just4kix View Post
    The US is the cheapest place to buy Electronics. Period.
    Quote Originally Posted by vaishaliv View Post
    I thought it was China.
    Quote Originally Posted by rajan1310 View Post
    china is cheapest in production cost.
    Rajan is correct. Although I have never been to China and cannot confirm for sure, I am fairly certain that USA is cheapest place to buy electronics.

    For example, the Sony Z-Series 1080p 46" TV:

    a) In USA, US$ 2375 plus Sales Tax. At max tax (CA = 9.25%) this works to Rs. 127,087/-.
    b) In Singapore, S$ 5,499.00 (US$ 1 = S$ 1.4400). This works out to Rs. 187,150/-
    c) In India, Rs. 183,900 /-.

    But the 'Z' series TV is still a bad example, it is a very recent launch and still very expensive all over the world. A 40-42" Full HD TV costs only US$ 1200 to US$ 1800 in US.

    Just visit websites of stores such as Best Buy, Sears, Fry's, etc. to check the prices. In stores such as Costco, the deals are even better. Plus during season sale such as Black Friday, the discounts are as high as 40%.

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    just laptops?? i recently bought sony digital cam for INR 21000 from sony center,same cam in USA costs 380$ i.e INR 16000 approx, rs 5000 difference!!!

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    see difference in handy-cam price!!! ditto same model

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rcom View Post
    just laptops?? i recently bought sony digital cam for INR 21000 from sony center,same cam in USA costs 380$ i.e INR 16000 approx, rs 5000 difference!!!
    $380 works out to be INR18500 not 16k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    $380 works out to be INR18500 not 16k
    my bad i didn't checked the $$ price,but still 21000-18500=2500 difference!!

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    nice cam bro.... you can record in Full HD.....but 80GB = around 3Hrs of recording.... you better get a 1TB HDD on you PC ...

    PC component prices during thanksgiving are very low too (in the US)

    here, even at diwali , they remain same
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    OK.

    Agreed that goods in US are cheaper than in India. But there is a difference when it comes to importing on your own as personal effects.

    Some items, such as one laptop, one digital camera, etc. are OK. There is no import duty. But when it comes to big items, there is customs duty to be paid. When true customs duty is paid, the price difference evaporates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Tooth Fairy View Post
    Hi guys, i have a simple question. If u go online to sites from Dell, Acer, Hp, Apple any brand, if u check the rates as in US in $$ n convert it to Indian currency than it will be always cheaper. Contrary if u check the rates in any shop in India or even if online for India.. it will be costly.

    Y is this diffrence?? if its the matter of slight difference than understood. but the difference is large.

    Right now i m bit confused. Like i am going to US. I need a pc at home. Now i m thinking whether i should buy a new desktop for home and take my present laptop to US??

    But when i checked the prices for US.. i mean i can get a decent laptop for 600$ i mean a config of 4gb ram and 250 to 500 gb HDD, dual core processor, web cam, card reader n blue tooth inbuild.

    I guess the config is pretty ok.. all we can say is approx costing only 30k rupees.. i think a desktop even can cost minimum of 25k decent one.

    Comments and adivses please.....


    P S... is there gonna be a big difference between dual core and core 2 duo if i buy any of the one??

    My main usage if i will get the above config laptop ... will be little of gaming, songs, movies, internet... etc etc.. not more than this.. so processors where does they play role exactly? can anyone tell me in detail?? i have checked .. most of the laptops in Dell in this or lesser than this range of money will have Dual core and not core 2 duo processors..

    if selecting core 2 duo it will be approx more than 5 to 6 thousand more.. is it worth spending this much extra??? where actual real difference comes in usage??
    i think because the electronics are made in US and then transported to india.

    and then take the eg. of Apple Iphone.its 34K in india but only $199 in US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imrock View Post
    i think because the electronics are made in US and then transported to india.

    and then take the eg. of Apple Iphone.its 34K in india but only $199 in US.
    No. Most electronic items are directly imported from the factories in Taiwan, Malayasia, China, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imrock View Post
    i think because the electronics are made in US and then transported to india.

    and then take the eg. of Apple Iphone.its 34K in india but only $199 in US.
    It is subsidise by AT&T that's why it is cheaper there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imrock View Post
    i think because the electronics are made in US and then transported to india.

    and then take the eg. of Apple Iphone.its 34K in india but only $199 in US.

    That was 30 years ago, now everything is "Made in China"

    That $199 is because you have to sign a contract for about
    $70 a month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imrock View Post
    ... and then take the eg. of Apple Iphone.its 34K in india but only $199 in US.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker View Post
    It is subsidise by AT&T that's why it is cheaper there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Punch Farce View Post
    That $199 is because you have to sign a contract for about $70 a month.

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    I thought as much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Punch Farce View Post
    That was 30 years ago, now everything is "Made in China"

    That $199 is because you have to sign a contract for about
    $70 a month.

    -F
    That contract is about using the service of AT&T which will be at same price whether you use Iphone or not but when using Iphone you can't discontinue using the service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker View Post
    That contract is about using the service of AT&T which will be at same price whether you use Iphone or not but when using Iphone you can't discontinue using the service.
    Not exactly, with iphone you are forced to chose their data plan (about $70).
    With other phones you can chose plans starting at $30.

    The contract is the same thing for whatever phone.
    you can't discontinue in the middle without penalties
    whether iphone or some other phone.

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    yes buying from US is always better when you buy from their respective sites..

    but buying from showrooms is costlier though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by just4kix View Post
    No. Most electronic items are directly imported from the factories in Taiwan, Malayasia, China, etc.
    thanks for correcting me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Punch Farce View Post
    Not exactly, with iphone you are forced to chose their data plan (about $70).
    With other phones you can chose plans starting at $30.

    The contract is the same thing for whatever phone.
    you can't discontinue in the middle without penalties
    whether iphone or some other phone.

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    Yeah but that plan is same for Iphone users or other mobile phone users. You are forced to sign contract if you buy subsidise Iphone but not in case of other phone which are not that much subsidise.

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    may be the tax, or your laptop build by us, and then they need send back to india.

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