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    Has anybody tried Ubuntu 10.10 the new flavor of Linux?

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    Yeah, I tried on vmware player.....
    I liked it, very smooth running and without hassles....

    Hopefully, some day Linux will equal windows.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitler517 View Post
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    Hopefully, some day Linux will equal windows.......
    I would prefer Linux continue to remain superior and not equal windows any time soon.

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    --- Well said!

    I don't want to go back to a system that takes ten minutes to boot instead of two! And I stuffed my Linux system with more rubbish in a few months than I did XP in a few years: straight off the CD, it booted in seconds.

    I don't want to go back to a system where Firefox takes ten seconds off every few minutes.

    I don't want to back to a system that stops to blank out and then redraw all the icons on the desktop on a regular basis.

    But I would like a system where the office productivity tools are the equal of MS Office --- and they are not. Yet.

    10.10... Hmmm... Might give it a try, although I only came to 10.4 a few months ago. Having once been a Unix pro, I don't know why I spent all those years sitting in front of XP at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glass View Post
    I would prefer Linux continue to remain superior and not equal windows any time soon.
    Linux is always better in performance.....
    By getting equal I meant the day when we could totally substitute windows with Linux, say Office with OpenOffice.....

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    Installed it on my Dell laptop as a first task this year..
    Went through without a glitch except for the usual fix for the wireless. Pretty happy with it too...

    It may is moving towards MacOS as the look and feel is almost similar... heard a lot of discussion regarding this in ubuntu forums...

    On a different note though any Ubuntu contributors in India... i dont see much??!!

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    Installed 10.04 week ago with the help of WUBI,quite interesting software(they should make one for Fedora also......)

    Installs like a windows application and also showing the disk images like in windows.

    I am trying to get familiar with ubuntu as i am using windows 7 now for an year.Also trying to get dirty with python 2.6 and unix terninal commands.I was thinking that Schools and Colleges must emphasize on using unix and all other open source S/W.Like they did in Russia something about 4-5 years ago.
    This will help the students intellectually.

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    I just installed Dream Studio, which is 10.10-based, in a virtual machine on 10.04.

    Was a bit annoying to find that the first system update upgrade ran to 500Mb! Was even more annoying, having done this, to end up screwing up my virtual installation. I did manage to backup all the files from it, and have spent a few hours since finding out how to restore (actually, what not to restore!) to get a working system again. Probably I could have just reinstalled all the software packages from the downloaded files on my backup.. I'm learning only!

    10.10? From what little I have seen of it so far, I canonly say that I don't much see the point in making such cosmetic changes. That's a bit microsoft --- although, at least Ubuntu doesn't make us pay for it!
    I was thinking that Schools and Colleges must emphasize on using unix and all other open source S/W.Like they did in Russia something about 4-5 years ago.
    or... like they did in America thirty years ago! Which was the key to Unix's future commercial success.

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    Smile Hello All

    I am new to this forum and have recently installed Ubuntu 10.10, but am unable to connect to the Internet.
    I have a Wired Broadband Connection. (PPPoE),
    Please help me in setting up the dialer like XP.

    Regards.

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    There is no need to use a dialer in PPPoE mode. Simply switch ON the modem and Ubuntu will automatically detect connection through LAN. Me too got my modem configured in PPPoE mode. I tried Ubuntu 10.10 as Live CD 2 days back. I didn't even install it, but it detected my LAN connection and I was able to browse without any problem.

    Even in XP if you are using PPPoE mode, you do not need dialer. If you are using dialer in XP, your modem is Bridge / Dialer mode. You need to configure your modem to PPPoE to automatically detect the connection.

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    Exclamation hi

    hey frnds
    i'm new to this forum,
    i started using the ubuntu 10.10 a few days ago
    but i'm not able to connect the internet in it(bsnl(wired)),
    pls,can anyone help me out of this ?

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    Mention your modem - model and make.

    Hope you are using ethernet cable to connect to net. Configure your modem in PPPoE / Always ON mode. Ubuntu will automatically detect the network.

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    Post Please Dont Go For Linux IT SUCKS

    I was bored of windows and wanted a change, so i switched to Ubuntu last year, my notebook being HP-dv6-1161TX that time. And it was a real pain in the a... The problems i faced with ubuntu were
    1>Very Bad hardware support - That hardware support in linux is pathetic, it took me two days just to make my realtek soundcard work with it(may be because i was new in linux). And when it did work then earphone jack wasn't working at all. Tried a lot, even on ubuntu's irc channel, but to no use
    Finger Print reader - Tried a lot but it didn't work at all.
    TV-Tuner card -: No support either
    Webcam -: I did make my webcam work but even doing so was a real pain.

    2>Not for Gamers -: Its definitely not for gamers, as either i dont know or its true that no good games are avialable in linux platform. I like playing Crysis, NFS etc. but they arent avialable. Leave the high end games, even CS wasnt running properly on WINE. I think there is a version for CS for linux but i dint get into that as i had other things to do.

    3>Bugs -: People say Linux is great Linux is awesome Blah blah blah. I love Linux, i support Open source etc. but Free isnt better... As far as my opinion is concerned. There are many bugs in Linux too. As in the Version of Ubuntu i used, even after installing my ATI Mobility Radeon Driver, if I played HD videos in VLC they were not smooth but were running in frames.

    For the one or two month horrible experience i had with linux , i would suggest you if you are thinking of trying something new. Please man Dont go for linux, its just a headache nothing else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meetdilip View Post
    Mention your modem - model and make.

    Hope you are using ethernet cable to connect to net. Configure your modem in PPPoE / Always ON mode. Ubuntu will automatically detect the network.
    i'm using "sl141 TYPE-B(adsl)" modem, ya its right i'm using ethernet.
    i get connecteda after a long work out but i've lost the network connections icon at the top after the updating of softwares & restaring the system i again cannot connect the internet & cant even see the network options in the top tooo

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    nippuankush, a very unfair writing off of "linux". For a start, it is like a major generalisation, with countless versions available.

    Ubuntu hardware support is not pathetic, it is very good. My scanner does not function, which is disapointing, but everything else (yes, including my Realtec sound card, and an old ISA sound card which is not even supported past XP by its manufacturers) worked out of the box. Hardware support depends on manufacturers. Because everything that is made to be attached to a PC is made to be compatible with MS Windows, the support is 100%. For various reasons, that cannot be claimed for Linux --- but the situation is very far from "pathetic" or even "very bad".

    Whilst I don't understand while you should have trouble with a Realtec 'card,' I canunderstand that drivers may not be available for the TV tuner. This is frustrating. It is a shame, but those with specific harware to support will, necessarily, stick with Microsoft. The manufacturers are not giving them a choice.

    Similarly with software. Nobody is going to use an OS that does not run their favourite programs. Maybe a percentage of them will run in wine, but if not, then I'd agree with you: stick to Windows. Why add an extra layer anyway?

    Buggy? Windows isn't buggy? Hah! It has to be buggy, so they can get your money for the next version! :lol: I find Ubuntu refreshingly good after XP. It boots quickly, starts programs quickly, and, most of the time, the only difference in the applications I'm using is that the Linux versions work better.

    (There's a ridiculous audo issue with "gapless playback" on Ubuntu. This is very annoying, and sub-windows absurd. However, I have discovered, this weekend, that Banshee will play no-break-in-the-music CD tracks properly)

    About Wine: I found, yesterday, that an old-favourite program, CoolEdit Pro, which many have tried, over the years, to run with wine, ending up in despair like yours --- does now seem to work with a later version of Wine. We could be looking at a future (although MS will do their best to stop it) in which Windows apps and games install seamlessly into Linux. Of course I admit that we are not there yet.

    There is no way that I will go back to Windows now, and I'll certainly never invest in any Wndows software later than my XP and Office 2000. I'll admit to a dual-boot machine. Free Office is not yet up to MS Office. Fine, I can use it to knock off a simple letter or spreadsheet, but not for anything more. I have XP in a virtual machine too; also a few other Linux versions, but this is mostly for "research" fun, and because I can.

    Linux/Ubuntu may not be for you, with your hardware/software requirements, but don't write it off for others: it's the best thing that has ever happened to my PC .

    What I don't like about Ubuntu...

    They are making a cult thing out of the interface. I do not want all this fancy stuff on my keep-it-simple desktop. I love that it is available, but will not be forced to use it. I can't be sure, because it will not work in my VM, but I strongly think that Unity is not for me, and I do not want it as a default, upsetting my desktop settings, with an appearance that has been evolving since W2000 and which, so far, Gnome has allowed me to judicially add to.

    That's a controversy for the future. If I give up Ubuntu, it will not be for Windows!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Bentley View Post
    Has anybody tried Ubuntu 10.10 the new flavor of Linux?
    Should we update?

    Has anybody tried Ubuntu 11.04 the new flavor of Linux?

    Well, yes, and I have issues with the interface, even without getting Unity to work. The "global menu" is just ridiculous.

    So far, 11.04 can be made to look like 10.04, although it takes a little work.

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    Thumbs down Not unfair, but a little too rude

    Nick H. I don't think i was unfair about linux. I just wrote about my experience with ubuntu. I know windows is also buggy, but it serves my purpose. I am an engineering student and all my programming needs are also fulfilled in windows. I dont know why people go for Linux? Just because it is free? Windows may have bugs, it may crash more often, deadlocks may occur more than expected, but still it has the largest hardware support(may be because its the favourite of manufacturers), and all the PC games are launched for windows only.

    Why is windows better than linux?
    1>Installing Programs is easier.(Though its also easy on newer version of linux, but still i prefer the windows program installations better)

    2>Installing anything good in Linux requires an entire weekend ending up in learning how to reinvent the wheel.

    3>You need internet connection to use Linux. Seriously, i mean if you are new, you cant do troubleshooting yourself in linux.

    4>Learning to work in windows is easier. I know i sound dumb, but if you go for linux you will know. Windows is more user friendly than linux.

    5>Personally i would use windows xp than using the most advanced version of LInux


    AND THE WORST THING IS THAT YOU CANT PLAY QUALITY GAMES WITHOUT WINDOWS.

    If you are spending 50-60ks on your pc getting a good graphics card and a good processor why not spend some more and get an OS which supports everything you need. Dont go for Linux


    Just installed ubuntu 10.10 alongside windows 7. And its more complex now. You cant directly install on Unallocated space, now you need to specify linux-swap, "/","/boot" and "/home" partitions before installing it.. Too good.. Hah!!
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    First, let me say that it is about choice, and there is no way that I am denying you your choice, or your opinion, or, of course, you experience. Nothing was meant to be rude. No offence intended. You could not run the hardware, or the programs you want, in Ubuntu, therefore Windows is, without question, the right choice for you. The rest was just general discussion of the points. In the same spirit...

    Nick H. I don't think i was unfair about linux. I just wrote about my experience with ubuntu. I know windows is also buggy, but it serves my purpose. I am an engineering student and all my programming needs are also fulfilled in windows. I dont know why people go for Linux? Just because it is free? Windows may have bugs, it may crash more often, deadlocks may occur more than expected, but still it has the largest hardware support(may be because its the favourite of manufacturers), and all the PC games are launched for windows only.
    Right: Windows is for you. We got that.

    It hasn't crashed much since W98SE, and has been pretty stable since W2000.

    I accept that the following are your experiences, but ...

    Why is windows better than linux?
    1>Installing Programs is easier.(Though its also easy on newer version of linux, but still i prefer the windows program installations better)
    Unless you are a software or systems person, manually compiling and installing programs on Linux is a daunting task. It is daunting for me, and, albeit some time back, I spent years working with Unix. Ubuntu's GUI installer makes life very easy: select the programs you want, click on "apply" and relax while it does it.

    Any problems there? Yes! The versions, by default, are the ones from the Ubuntu repository. They might not be the up-to-date version that you really need. First step may be adding a repository, which is not too hard, but if not, then maybe it's into that command-line ./configure and ./make install stuff. Whilst that is not so much in itself, the messages will be almost meaningless unless you happen to be a programmer. I'm not either. It is tough at that level. I have spent hours trying to make things work, and given up because of some missing library file, or error messages I just can't make sense of. One does this sort of thing for two reasons: either because it's the job, or because you enjoy it. To a limited extent, I enjoy it. I can certainly appreciate that not everyone does.
    2>Installing anything good in Linux requires an entire weekend ending up in learning how to reinvent the wheel.
    Learning how to do anything a different way is a bit like that. I hate Word, but also hate the idea of learning another WP package from scratch.

    3>You need internet connection to use Linux. Seriously, i mean if you are new, you cant do troubleshooting yourself in linux.
    You can Windows?

    Actually, you need the internet to even install it, not only for the original download, but, having done that, it then fetches far more software across the
    net, and/or immediately tells you that you need 500Mb of updates. That is annoying.
    4>Learning to work in windows is easier. I know i sound dumb, but if you go for linux you will know. Windows is more user friendly than linux.
    Depends entirely how you use it and what you do with it. I find it interesting in itself, so I mess around with it, for fun. The standard user interface is almost identical. Icons, pointer, menu. No less user friendly.

    5>Personally i would use windows xp than using the most advanced version of LInux
    Personally is what counts... for you.


    AND THE WORST THING IS THAT YOU CANT PLAY QUALITY GAMES WITHOUT WINDOWS.

    If you are spending 50-60ks on your pc getting a good graphics card and a good processor why not spend some more and get an OS which supports everything you need. Dont go for Linux
    Agreed. Like I said, my Linux casualty has been just one scanner. That is annoying; I didn't need to spend money on a new scanner. I'm now on my second PC, and it also cost that much. When I want to buy anything for it, I have to ask, does Linux support it? There is a certain amount of pain in that.

    Go for Linux if it does what you want it to do, on the machine you spent your hard-earned cash on. Otherwise, the cost of Windows is a small marginal extra. Zero, in fact, if you have a retail copy from a previous PC, which, for XP, I do.

    Just installed ubuntu 10.10 alongside windows 7. And its more complex now. You cant directly install on Unallocated space, now you need to specify linux-swap, "/","/boot" and "/home" partitions before installing it.. Too good.. Hah!!
    No different to installing a c-drive, d-drive, etc. Actually, it is an improvement: many people regret finding that they didn't know enough, on day one, to realise they should have done that.

    Anyway... the threads for discussing experience of Ubuntu, and we did just that. It doesn't matter that we have different conclusions. I make no secret about hating Microsoft, but they are not the only ones. In practice: I still have a dual-boot machine

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    HI
    Just one question why the programmers are not making the GUI more easy, like in Win7 installation select the partition format it and click next and voila

    In case of linux it took me 1 hour to figure out what the hell just happened??
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    I tried out Red Hat about seven or eight years ago. If you'd asked me then, I wouldn't have had much positive to say about it. I remember one thing: I couldn't see how to add a program to the desktop! I was used to AIX (IBM's Unix), and only a command line to administer it with, at the time. I wanted to like Linux on the desktop, but I didn't!

    I haven't ever installed W7. I didn't find Ubuntu hard, and didn't even think I was using much of the old Unix knowledge when I did it. In fact, I was surprised (compared to that RH trial) at how easy it was, and, especially, how it installed alongside WinXP by default. Destroying my XP installation was my fear (Ubuntu then was just an experiment) but there was never any danger.

    I think they have gone a long way since the nearest thing to a GUI install was a text-based menu. At what point did you get confused? Did it not just start into Linux? Or a Grub menu to ask you which system to boot?

    Ubuntu has gone a long way. Not all distributions will have. Recently, in Virtual machines, I have tried Puppy (supposed to be one of the smallest) and just got confused, and Fedora, which just hung (I think I shuold have tried the "install" image, not the "live" image, but why can't they make the difference clear, and I'm not running to download another 500Mb from them.

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    First while the installation I tried to put it next Partition D, It kept giving me error message...Finally managed to do it...

    In my first linux experience then every time I want to install a program from the repository it kept asking for authentication, C'mon I know what I'm doing...But entering the password every once in a while destroyed the new flavor.

    Then the GUI is not user friendly...then installing softwares are a menace...

    Somehow I can't think of replacing Windows with Linux.
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    OK, fair enough.

    Remember that the idea of security was built into Unix from the start, whereas, with Windows, it ...wasn't.

    Synaptic asks for a password when you start it. I get annyed too: what if I just want to have a look around? But then it would have to ask whenever I did something. Probably possible to have no passwords, ever, but the way to that would be akin to the old Windows way, just having Adminstrator rights.

    This partition business is confusing, and there is no way I don't hold my breath as I press return, sometimes.

    Anyway... today's vote, Windows 2, Linux 1. So long as we get three happy people!

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    Thumbs up Ubuntu 10.10 Is good

    As i told i just installed Ubuntu 10.10, and despite the fact that i hated it. I have to say that ubuntu 10.10 is really good. The hardware support has improved a lot and the ubuntu software centre is great for installing things the easy way. Video Lag has also improved.

    It will never be a replacement to Windows but it is worth a try!!

    I wish Ubuntu to evolve more in the future..

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    Nice to know you are finding better things in it --- even if it doesn't make an everyday system for you.

    I was thinking about what you had said about graphic card support. As a result, and for the first time, I got the proprietary drivers installed on my 10.4. It has made a difference to just normal use: even type is clearer, application windows look nicer (same theme) and everything is sharper. If you took a glance over my shoulder, you might think it was WinXP, or even 2K, I'm still sticking to that simple kind of theme and Window presentation. However, with the ATI drivers installed, I now get proper 3D support and can do all the Compiz spinning-desktop cube stuff. Maybe it's something like W7?

    I've kept off the "gimiks" but I'm now thinking this is, actually useful!

    I have to admit... a) it would be nice if the drivers had been there, no hassle, out of the box, and b) it took some googling before I found simple, straightforward instructions on how to get the cube thing working.

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    Default I like Desktop Cube

    Desktop cube is good and with a little bit of experimentation.. You can turn it into a cyllinder too. Try enabling skydome and enable animation in skydome add an image and see the magic,,

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    I got as far as skydome, but not as far as the animation yet. I wondered what it did!

    I like the transparency. Hey! I can see my workspaces from behind as well as in front

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    Is there any tool using which I can get a 3D desktop in Windows 7 Ultimate ?

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    I thought it had it's own? Not that I'd know, of course, having bailed out at XP

    Quote Originally Posted by nippuankush View Post
    ... and enable animation in skydome add an image and see the magic,,
    OK, got that one. Yes, it is fun!

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    Ubuntu 10.10 is the latest stable release of the Debian-based Linux distribution. This is the additional and the endure absolution for the year. As is customary for Ubuntu, three editions were released: The Desktop, Netbook, and Server editions. This article offers a detailed review of the desktop edition.

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