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Preeti_20 · 08-10-08, 11:58 PM

Well its not long left now until the Apple iPhone will be launched and its a phone which many people have been waiting for. The iphone has been launched in many other countries like United Kingdom, America and many others and on the 22nd August it will India's turn when the iPhone will be lauched.
The phone is going to be available through Vodaphone and Airtel Connections.

Admin · 08-11-08, 12:01 AM

Does anyone know if we can install or some how run skype using wifi connection?

I would buy one if this is possible coz untill now only windows mobiles are capable of installing and running third party softwares

and most windows mobile are prone to hanging and one issue or the other like windows we use on a pc

vivnutty · 08-11-08, 09:05 AM

Hey guys I heard iPhone has some shortcomings. Can any1 of you trace out how far this is true???

This is the list of shortcomings. I got it as a forwarded mail.

1. No video calling,

2. No AD2P on the Bluetooth,

3. CAN’T share ANY (mp3, images,videos....) files via bluetooth,

4. Can't use as a wireless modem, (you pay ridiculous data charges to activate internet on your phone, but cannot connect it to your PC and browse when you are at home)
5. No copy and paste,(cannot copy a part of a.... say.... email & send it....have to type it out yourself)

6. No 3.2 or 5 megapixel camera,(the 2MP camera it carries is worst camera i've ever seen..... photos look like they have come out of a VGA camera)

7. No video recording with camera,

8. No front camera,

9. No flash.

10. No JAVA support

11. No physical keyboard (BELIEVE me! this alone is a dealbreaker...touch keyboard as good as it looks...once you use it then only you come to know about the importance of having a hard keypad)

12. No 3G network yet in India..so why pay for expensive 3G phone if you cant use its 3G services ... so, for India, iPhone 2.0 is no better than its first version

13. No removable battery. (You cannot change battery. Have to send it to apple outlet.. Come on now!!!!...This is not an iPod. Its a bloody phone. You cannot live without phone for 2-3 days)

14. No haptic feedback

15. Cannot send MMS,

16. Can’t use as external storage device (16 GB of utter waste..next time you go to your friend's house & find some interesting songs, movies, etc...sorry you cannot connect your '16 GB' phone and share it!!!! Apple apparently has a solution.. " BUY MUSIC & MOVIES FROM iTUNES STORE "..... Give me a break will you APPLE!!!)

17. No FM radio,

18. Can’t use your mp3 files as ringtones,(This is heights man!!!)

19. Cannot insert any other SIM card….

20. Completely tied to iTunes... Connect to your friend's iTunes & you risk erasing everything on your phone.
list goes on & on & on….

just4kix · 08-11-08, 01:31 PM

vivnutty,

Yup. All these restrictions are true except maybe 12 and 19.

vivnutty · 08-11-08, 01:37 PM

12 i knw is no longer a truth... I was going thru an article in a magazine related to GPS in India... It is still not that efficient. They tried to find their ways to Chandni Chowk (Parantha Gali) using only GPS. GPS system made them go round n round before showing final destination.

(So it is not that easy as it is shown in ad wherein arrows from all sides show ways

)

But then to be optimistic, we got a start

gardencityboy · 08-11-08, 01:49 PM

this is utter crap

if Apple is planning to see the phone with all these removed
then i don't think i will buy it (i was planning to)

No Java, no sharing music by bluetooth - bull sh*t
Can’t use as external storage device and Cannot send MMS highs of sh*ting

vivnutty · 08-11-08, 01:51 PM

LOLz... same was my planning gardencityboy

mera bhoot bhi uttar gayaa...

Do let me know which is ur 2nd preference... I am eyeing for Sony W890i rite now.... Wat u think of it??

sujithsukrutham · 08-11-08, 02:00 PM

Chinese Labs are active!!! Will get a cool dupe of Iphones with all features shortly for a throw away price. Use it for one year and throw !!!

vivnutty · 08-11-08, 02:04 PM

I dun knw why but I am kinda allergic to this "Use n Throw" concept.

But still nice update for those who would compromise with the Chinese version of iphone.

For me I will go for some other model.

Thanx neways

gardencityboy · 08-11-08, 02:10 PM

I am planning to go for some Pocket PC windows based version
No yet decided, yet to do my research

vivnutty · 08-11-08, 02:21 PM

I am kind of scared of buying any pocket pc now.... in some way or other they lacks in basic functionalities of a mobile phone. Like we listed dozens for apple iphone.

Lets see

just4kix · 08-11-08, 02:32 PM

I have an O2 XDA IIi Pocket PC + Phone. There are no such restrictions on Windows Mobile based phones. However, (as with any Windows OS), the phone needs to be rebooted after two/three days (it hangs).

Another minor glitch (with all PDA phones) is low ringer volume. In a crowded place such as a shopping mall, you often miss a call because you don't hear it. Since it must be carried/attached on to the hip, the vibrator also fails to catch your attention.

vivnutty · 08-11-08, 02:35 PM

'just4kix' I need a personal suggestion... I am planning to buy Sony W890i. Should i go for it??

just4kix · 08-11-08, 02:51 PM

Sony W890i is a great device. Also comapre the same with Nokia N series products. Sony phones have a better camera but Nokia phone have everything else better. I feel that lack of support for external SD card is a slight disappointment. I will definitely feel hampered because 26 MB internal memory is not big enough considering the high-res camera and music capability.

But before anything analyse whether you really need a this phone. While, it will be great to flaunt the device in public, it is your money that is paying. If you really can justify the need, then sure go ahead.

vivnutty · 08-11-08, 03:52 PM

thnx 4 suggestions... i gues i can use device 2 its optimum level besides flaunting it in public

manas27587 · 08-13-08, 12:23 AM

Hey Vivnutty......No offense but this is my explanation to ur mail.....

1. The 3G iphone does have video calling..

2. A2DP support is not present but file transfer is possible via WiFi...which i think is the future of file transfer....however if u want to transfer files via bluetooth Brando sells an adapter....

3. I think the above xplanation answers ur query

4. Generally ppl connect their phone on the PC to view files in a larger size...but the iphone provides u a good browser....and u can download n e thing u want in the browser....

5. yes copy and paste is true.....u cannot do that...

6. As for the knowledge i have on cameras...a 2MP camera is the best for a Mobile phone...as without the Lens the Mp is of no use.....the camera gives as good a result for the 2MP it possess...

7. Video recording is possible....with 3rd party softwares....

8. Front camera on phone is for video calling...this is present on the 3g iphone..

9. No flash.......in daylight the camera gives very gud quality pics...

10. No java ....but with the iphone SDK releasing all ur java support will not be needed...

11. The iphone keyboard is good but u have to get used to it.....we ppl generally like a hard keyboard...its true....

12. With 3G coming in india...ur this problem will be solved....but wait till ur jaws drop...with 3g plans wen they come out....

13. No replacable batteries is because apple didnt want ppl to use Duplicate ones....

14. I really dont know how many phone have got this feature....

15. Third party applications allow u to send MMS as well...

16. This is utter rubbish ......who says u cant use the iphone as a USB device....yeah its not simpler like the normal phones...but u can....itunes supports u adding downloaded mp3's on ur phone...even videos is possible ...

17. With places getting WiFi'd FM listening is possible thru internet...u can add ur fav sations....

18. u cannot use ur existing files as ringtones...this is bcos the iphone doesnt support ringtone longer than 30 secs.....so cut ur song for 30 secs and then add ur ringtone....this support for adding ringtones is in itunes itself....

19. This ones been solved long ago..

20. Try using iphone PC suite....u can do a lot more things wid ur iphone....And Swap tunes allows u tp sync ur iphone wid 2 itunes.....

I on a personal note wud like to add this...

The iphone is a great phone if u own one....
I bought the phone in Oct 2007 for 250$(4gb)
i guess no phone offers u all the features the iphone has in that cost..
as for the drawbacks...the iphone does have a lower sound thru its speakers.... but the sound thru the headphones is awesome...
U have to play around wid the phone to know about all these features.....
And just a mail should not de spirit u to but The iphone...

I really wonder how much ppl have lost out by not buying the iphone....
Now just wait for the phone to be launched in india.
The prices are only going to kill u....
U can PM me for n e clarifications....

Adios..

___mAnAs___

Chinmay · 08-13-08, 01:04 AM

u seem to be die hard iphone supporter!

gardencityboy · 08-13-08, 11:28 AM

Thanks manas27587 for that valuable input

ranjitraut · 08-18-08, 01:14 PM

can new iphone 3G be jailbreaked

Preeti_20 · 08-30-08, 04:34 AM

has any one tried using the iphone.........whats it like?

08-10-08, 11:58 PM	#1
Preeti_20 Platinum Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: In my Castle Posts: 3,280 Rep Power: 7	Apple iPhone Well its not long left now until the Apple iPhone will be launched and its a phone which many people have been waiting for. The iphone has been launched in many other countries like United Kingdom, America and many others and on the 22nd August it will India's turn when the iPhone will be lauched. The phone is going to be available through Vodaphone and Airtel Connections.

08-11-08, 09:05 AM	#3
vivnutty Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 25 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 2	IS this true??? Hey guys I heard iPhone has some shortcomings. Can any1 of you trace out how far this is true??? This is the list of shortcomings. I got it as a forwarded mail. 1. No video calling, 2. No AD2P on the Bluetooth, 3. CAN’T share ANY (mp3, images,videos....) files via bluetooth, 4. Can't use as a wireless modem, (you pay ridiculous data charges to activate internet on your phone, but cannot connect it to your PC and browse when you are at home) 5. No copy and paste,(cannot copy a part of a.... say.... email & send it....have to type it out yourself) 6. No 3.2 or 5 megapixel camera,(the 2MP camera it carries is worst camera i've ever seen..... photos look like they have come out of a VGA camera) 7. No video recording with camera, 8. No front camera, 9. No flash. 10. No JAVA support 11. No physical keyboard (BELIEVE me! this alone is a dealbreaker...touch keyboard as good as it looks...once you use it then only you come to know about the importance of having a hard keypad) 12. No 3G network yet in India..so why pay for expensive 3G phone if you cant use its 3G services ... so, for India, iPhone 2.0 is no better than its first version 13. No removable battery. (You cannot change battery. Have to send it to apple outlet.. Come on now!!!!...This is not an iPod. Its a bloody phone. You cannot live without phone for 2-3 days) 14. No haptic feedback 15. Cannot send MMS, 16. Can’t use as external storage device (16 GB of utter waste..next time you go to your friend's house & find some interesting songs, movies, etc...sorry you cannot connect your '16 GB' phone and share it!!!! Apple apparently has a solution.. " BUY MUSIC & MOVIES FROM iTUNES STORE "..... Give me a break will you APPLE!!!) 17. No FM radio, 18. Can’t use your mp3 files as ringtones,(This is heights man!!!) 19. Cannot insert any other SIM card…. 20. Completely tied to iTunes... Connect to your friend's iTunes & you risk erasing everything on your phone. list goes on & on & on….

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08-11-08, 12:01 AM	#2
Admin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Delhi Age: 32 Posts: 4,700 Rep Power: 12	Does anyone know if we can install or some how run skype using wifi connection? I would buy one if this is possible coz untill now only windows mobiles are capable of installing and running third party softwares and most windows mobile are prone to hanging and one issue or the other like windows we use on a pc

08-11-08, 01:31 PM	#4
just4kix Platinum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 8,899 Blog Entries: 6 Rep Power: 19	vivnutty, Yup. All these restrictions are true except maybe 12 and 19.

08-11-08, 01:49 PM	#6
gardencityboy Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 516 Rep Power: 2	this is utter crap if Apple is planning to see the phone with all these removed then i don't think i will buy it (i was planning to) No Java, no sharing music by bluetooth - bull sht Can’t use as external storage device and Cannot send MMS highs of shting

08-11-08, 01:51 PM	#7
vivnutty Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 25 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 2	LOLz... same was my planning gardencityboy mera bhoot bhi uttar gayaa... Do let me know which is ur 2nd preference... I am eyeing for Sony W890i rite now.... Wat u think of it??

08-11-08, 02:00 PM	#8
sujithsukrutham Gold Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Where I am Posts: 579 Rep Power: 5	Chinese Labs are active!!! Will get a cool dupe of Iphones with all features shortly for a throw away price. Use it for one year and throw !!!

08-11-08, 02:04 PM	#9
vivnutty Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 25 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 2	I dun knw why but I am kinda allergic to this "Use n Throw" concept. But still nice update for those who would compromise with the Chinese version of iphone. For me I will go for some other model. Thanx neways

08-11-08, 02:10 PM	#10
gardencityboy Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 516 Rep Power: 2	I am planning to go for some Pocket PC windows based version No yet decided, yet to do my research

08-11-08, 02:21 PM	#11
vivnutty Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 25 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 2	I am kind of scared of buying any pocket pc now.... in some way or other they lacks in basic functionalities of a mobile phone. Like we listed dozens for apple iphone. Lets see

08-11-08, 02:35 PM	#13
vivnutty Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 25 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 2	'just4kix' I need a personal suggestion... I am planning to buy Sony W890i. Should i go for it??

08-11-08, 02:51 PM	#14
just4kix Platinum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 8,899 Blog Entries: 6 Rep Power: 19	Sony W890i is a great device. Also comapre the same with Nokia N series products. Sony phones have a better camera but Nokia phone have everything else better. I feel that lack of support for external SD card is a slight disappointment. I will definitely feel hampered because 26 MB internal memory is not big enough considering the high-res camera and music capability. But before anything analyse whether you really need a this phone. While, it will be great to flaunt the device in public, it is your money that is paying. If you really can justify the need, then sure go ahead.

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08-11-08, 03:52 PM	#15
vivnutty Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 25 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 2	thnx 4 suggestions... i gues i can use device 2 its optimum level besides flaunting it in public

08-13-08, 12:23 AM	#16
manas27587 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Age: 22 Posts: 13 Rep Power: 2	Hey Vivnutty......No offense but this is my explanation to ur mail..... 1. The 3G iphone does have video calling.. 2. A2DP support is not present but file transfer is possible via WiFi...which i think is the future of file transfer....however if u want to transfer files via bluetooth Brando sells an adapter.... 3. I think the above xplanation answers ur query 4. Generally ppl connect their phone on the PC to view files in a larger size...but the iphone provides u a good browser....and u can download n e thing u want in the browser.... 5. yes copy and paste is true.....u cannot do that... 6. As for the knowledge i have on cameras...a 2MP camera is the best for a Mobile phone...as without the Lens the Mp is of no use.....the camera gives as good a result for the 2MP it possess... 7. Video recording is possible....with 3rd party softwares.... 8. Front camera on phone is for video calling...this is present on the 3g iphone.. 9. No flash.......in daylight the camera gives very gud quality pics... 10. No java ....but with the iphone SDK releasing all ur java support will not be needed... 11. The iphone keyboard is good but u have to get used to it.....we ppl generally like a hard keyboard...its true.... 12. With 3G coming in india...ur this problem will be solved....but wait till ur jaws drop...with 3g plans wen they come out.... 13. No replacable batteries is because apple didnt want ppl to use Duplicate ones.... 14. I really dont know how many phone have got this feature.... 15. Third party applications allow u to send MMS as well... 16. This is utter rubbish ......who says u cant use the iphone as a USB device....yeah its not simpler like the normal phones...but u can....itunes supports u adding downloaded mp3's on ur phone...even videos is possible ... 17. With places getting WiFi'd FM listening is possible thru internet...u can add ur fav sations.... 18. u cannot use ur existing files as ringtones...this is bcos the iphone doesnt support ringtone longer than 30 secs.....so cut ur song for 30 secs and then add ur ringtone....this support for adding ringtones is in itunes itself.... 19. This ones been solved long ago.. 20. Try using iphone PC suite....u can do a lot more things wid ur iphone....And Swap tunes allows u tp sync ur iphone wid 2 itunes..... I on a personal note wud like to add this... The iphone is a great phone if u own one.... I bought the phone in Oct 2007 for 250$(4gb) i guess no phone offers u all the features the iphone has in that cost.. as for the drawbacks...the iphone does have a lower sound thru its speakers.... but the sound thru the headphones is awesome... U have to play around wid the phone to know about all these features..... And just a mail should not de spirit u to but The iphone... I really wonder how much ppl have lost out by not buying the iphone.... Now just wait for the phone to be launched in india. The prices are only going to kill u.... U can PM me for n e clarifications.... Adios.. ___mAnAs___

08-13-08, 01:04 AM	#17
Chinmay Bronze Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Mumbai Age: 22 Posts: 122 Rep Power: 2	u seem to be die hard iphone supporter!

08-13-08, 11:28 AM	#18
gardencityboy Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 516 Rep Power: 2	Thanks manas27587 for that valuable input

08-18-08, 01:14 PM	#19
ranjitraut Bronze Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 123 Rep Power: 2	can new iphone 3G be jailbreaked

08-30-08, 04:34 AM	#20
Preeti_20 Platinum Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: In my Castle Posts: 3,280 Rep Power: 7	has any one tried using the iphone.........whats it like?

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